Have not tried a hot bath; I will give it a try tonight. I'm using a regular heating pad; is that good or bad? I take Aleeve during the day. I tried tylenol PM once before and it kept me awake, lol. Right now the pain subsided a bit; don't know if its because its raining, because I took the aleeve or because they are wrapped in ace bandages. I see my mood change instantly when my pain subsides. I can't imagine what a pain free night would do for me.