I fell again UPDATE ONE YEAR LATER

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anstar
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   Posted 7/31/2008 6:11 AM (GMT -7)   
about 3 weeks ago, I tripped over something (thick air?) and landed hard.  I was walking and then I was flying, with my arms outstretched, and then I was face down on the sidewalk with extreme pain in my left shoulder.  I went to the doctor and they sent me for an xray, then promptly forgot about me.  Two weeks later, I found another doctor, who sent me for another xray, and then an MRI.  All those tests came back normal, but I still have a lot of pain on the top outer edge of my left shoulder.  I had no range of motion for a week or so, but now it's coming back.  There are still movements I can't make and the pain is making it hard to get comfortable at night.  During the day, I can be careful of it, but when I go to sleep I'll move it the wrong way and wake up.
When I fell, I felt something give in the top of my shoulder and I don't know why the tests are normal, unless it's the fact that the MRI was performed over two weeks after the injury. If it's healed though, why does it still hurt so much?  Is it possible that I messed up something they didn't find or am I just being a baby?

Post Edited (anstar) : 7/9/2009 12:01:56 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/31/2008 6:24 AM (GMT -7)   
You're not being a baby. You're in pain. How do you feel about chiropractic care? Some people are adamantly against it and others swear by it. I have a super chiropractor who is always right about everything. I visit him whenever I fall because he can put things back in place that have shifted but that dont' show up on exrays. Do you have complete range of motion in your shoulder? Have you tried topical pain killers like capsaizan cream? Have you aggravated an old injury or is this a new injury? do you like being interrogated with a bunch of questions? LOL
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   Posted 7/31/2008 6:33 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know what an MRI would see, but an Xray won't see if you have bursitis or injured a tendon. I'm sorry you are still in pain, and no you aren't a baby! I think the doctor should take you more seriously. I'm sorry, I hav no advice for you :(
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   Posted 7/31/2008 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I think Mamanan is right about having a CAT or MRI to see if anything shows up that wouldn't show up on x-ray. But it could be that it's going to take you a lot longer to get over this than normal people. A little wreck last Nov put my neck in a world of pain that I'm still dealing with. Once our muscles are injured they don't forget it, unlike our minds that forget everything.
 
Moist heat and maybe a rub would help. I have found the less people touch my neck the better off it is. I tried chiro and massages and both just aggravated it more. My neck has a do not touch sign on it, hehehe. Maybe I should get that tattooed on there. tongue
 
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   Posted 7/31/2008 7:57 AM (GMT -7)   
You are not being a baby, Anstar.  Living with pain is not easy and is not for sissies!
 
I get gentle massages that help with muscle pain.  I can be pretty miserable but she works out the knots and the muscles relax.  I'm worse the evening I had the massage but the next day I'm 100% better.
 
I did try chiropractics and it wasn't for me.  It made me worse and, by the time I started feeling better, it was time for my next appointment!  That is my experience.
 
I hope you are feeling better.  You may have strained tendons and ligaments and they are taking longer to heal.  I do hope you get some relief soon.
 
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anstar
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   Posted 7/31/2008 8:21 AM (GMT -7)   
They did an MRI and it came back "normal". I felt something pop when I landed. I don't think it's muscle pain. It feels different. Most of the time it aches, but every now and then I get a sharp pain right on top of my shoulder that stops me in my tracks. I've been icing and heating since it happened. I have pain killers and anti inflamatories. I guess it'll heal eventually, I just worry that I'm doing more damage by trying to keep it moving. I don't want it to freeze up on me.

I can't go to a chiro either. I've been to them, and had massages as well. They are just torture to me.

Thanks everyone, for the advice. If it doesn't stop hurting soon, I guess I'll have to go back to the doctor. I changed PCP's because my first one treated me so badly and I really like the new one. She's very nice. I just hate going to the doctor. I feel like I've spent a huge part of my adult life sitting in one exam or another, getting a "hmmm. Just try to rest...nothing we can do" diagnosis. <sigh>

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   Posted 7/31/2008 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
I think that a lot of us get that attitude from doctors. Just because they can't see our pain doesn't mean it isn't there. Do you think that maybe you bruised a bone. I don't think that would show up on tests. Anyhow I hope that the pain subsides for you and that you feel better soon. It does take us longer to heal up after a fall or walking into something like I do.LOL...

Best wishes, keep us posted
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anstar
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   Posted 7/31/2008 11:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't think I bruised a bone because the pain is in the top of my shoulder and I landed on my face. I scraped the inside of my arm on the way down and landed with my left arm kind of over my head. My body twisted when I hit and that's when I felt the weird pull or pop or whatever. I guess it's a sprain.

anstar
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   Posted 7/9/2009 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm bringing this back to the top because of the dates involved. Just today (nearly a YEAR later) I was back in the doctor's office for some bloodwork and mentioned to the new doctor (the other one had since left to open her own practice) that my shoulder still bothered me. She looked in my chart and found the results of the MRI, that I had been told were normal. Right there, in black and white in my chart was the report the nurse had "interpreted" as normal... Nondisplaced FRACTURE!! I had actually broken a bone, and no one told me!! Now I have to have another MRI to make sure that not having the proper treatment hasn't done more damage to my shoulder. The new doctor (who was mortified!!) said she's sure the bone has healed by now, but is very worried about the tendons surrounding it. The nurse who gave me the results was fired from the group a while back because they'd had "problems" with her. I was shocked and quite frustrated at this information, but I appreciated my new doctor being honest with me and not trying to bury it, hoping I'd never be the wiser. I'm sure she's concerned about financial implications for their practice, but she seemed to be more concerned for my well-being.
Well, anyway...Now!! I have to go through "intense" physical therapy to hopefully save me from having to have surgery on my shoulder. <cry>

Post Edited (anstar) : 7/9/2009 12:03:47 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/9/2009 11:17 AM (GMT -7)   
This is terrible!  I'm surprised that the nurse was allowed to see your records and give you results.  My doctor either calls or writes me a note giving me test results. 
 
I'm glad you have a consciencious doctor.  It sounds like they will take good care of you now.  I'll be praying that everything healed properly and that the surrounding tissue is fine.
 
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anstar
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   Posted 7/9/2009 11:40 AM (GMT -7)   
The new doctor told me that when the results from this new MRI arrive she will be *personally* calling me.

Thanks Sherrine, for your prayers. I"m also hoping that everything healed properly, but I wonder because, one year after the fall, I still can't put my arm behind my back, or reach across my body. :( What a mess.

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   Posted 7/9/2009 11:55 AM (GMT -7)   
You know, sometimes it takes a long time for these tendons and muscles to heal.  Then, when you add fibro into the mix.....
 
I injured a muscle in my upper arm in January by pulling a piece of luggage that was on wheels but it was heavy.  That arm still hurts me and I can only touch the opposite shoulder with my fingertips.  My other arm can reach across and go over my shoulder and touch my back.  So, I'm waiting and hoping it heals soon.  But, my injury isn't nearly as bad as what you had so it might just take some time.
 
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   Posted 7/9/2009 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Anstar, could you have a pinched nerve? They can do nerve blocks for those and it helps. I don't think they can see the pinched nerve on an xray or mri. My doc says they give you a local anesthesia and then the nerve block. If it feels better right away, they know they got the right spot. It hurts a lot later because of the shot, then gets better. It might be worth discussing with your doctor.
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   Posted 7/9/2009 9:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I just sprained my shoulder. Who knows when it will heal. I am sorry that you had such an incompetent nurse.

Donnaeil

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   Posted 7/10/2009 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow.  I really hope the PT can help your shoulder get better.  Keep us posted.
 
The medical community, while most of them are caring and conscientious, really do screw up as often as the rest of us.  My husband went to the dr with elbow pain (turns out he broke it as a child, didn't realize it, and it healed improperly).  He was sent for a CT scan, and the radiologist said it was "normal".  His orthopedist said, "That's crazy; I can feel the knot."  His orthopedist looked at the films and saw the old break.  He chose not to have surgery to correct the old break.  He has a good range of motion and only has pain if he moves it a certain way, or sometimes it is really stiff and "stuck" in the mornings, and he has to "pop" it, but then it feels better.  Hopefully, you will have the same success.
 
I have one more bit of advice for all of us, and that is to always get a written copy of any test results/ imaging reports. I've also had a nurse tell me that a CT was negative, but when I went and got the written report (from the radiologist), there actually was an abnormality.  It wasn't life threatening, but it did explain the problems I was having and helped put my mind at ease.
 
Hope you feel better soon.
 
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   Posted 7/10/2009 7:07 AM (GMT -7)   
And they wonder why their malpractice ins. is so high. smhair I have learned over the years to go with my gut feelings when it comes to my health and if something doesn't feel right, no matter what my doctors say, I will get another opinion. I know my body better than my doctors do.
 
I do know that it takes us a lot longer to heal than normal people. It took almost a year for my neck to stop hurting after a little wreck.
 
I hope they get to the bottom of it now and the PT works for you.
 
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anstar
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   Posted 7/10/2009 8:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone. The doctor's office just called. My new MRI is scheduled for noon on Monday.
I expected to be in pain longer than 'normal' but I'm hanging up on the fact that a year later I still have limited range of motion. There are some movements my shoulder simply will not do. If I place my hand behind my back (gingerly) and try to say, grab my bra to unhook it, my arm will go there (sort of, it hurts) but when I try to turn my arm so that my palm is facing my back, it literally won't do it. It starts to hurt and if I try to push through the pain, it locks up and won't go. My rheumy gave me a list of rotator cuff exercises for my right arm after he gave me the injection in the nerve (OUCH!!!) and told me to do them for both arms. I'm doing alright with the right arm, but not with the left. I've wondered if my right shoulder is starting to give me problems because I'm making it do the lion's share. I've been compensating for the limited range of motion for so long, I'm not even aware when I do it anymore. In the doctor's office yesterday she asked me if I could lift my left arm straight out and up. I said, "yes" and showed her. She shook her head and said, "You don't even realize what you just did." I had lifted my arm out to my side, and then for the raise it over your head part, what I'd done was bend sideways at the waist...thus raising my left arm in the air. She was right. I didn't realize I'd been doing that. I thought I was getting better. I was just finding new ways around it.
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