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Jeannie143
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   Posted 10/16/2008 9:53 AM (GMT -7)   
This is the time of year that it starts to kick in... Seasonal Affected Disorder. Often times if you have it you can hold off the worst of the symptoms by being busy with the upcoming holidays but come January you will really bottom out if you're not doing something to help yourself.

S.A.D. , for those of you who are unfamiliar with it, is thought to be a left over semi-hibernation reflex in people of northern European ancestry whose ancestors lived through the ice ages. Lack of sunlight exposure every day lowers serotonin levels and we seek to replenish the supply. Carbohydrates increase serotonin levels and over the thousands of years that the ice age took to pass our bodies were programmed to eat stored grains in the fall and winter, hunker down close to the fire and doze away the long winters. Gruels made from grains were a sure thing. Taking a chance on a hunt that expended lots of energy and may not produce a kill could lead to starvation.

When I was diagnosed with this condition one fall, my doctor asked me if I just didn't want to eat a big bowl of pasta and take a long nap. I was like... "Wow! YOU get it!" She explained that she had S.A.D. herself and all too well understood the feelings. She prescribed four hours of a S.A.D. light per day until I started feeling better. That first winter that I used my light I had enough energy to rip out the carpeting in the bathroom, tear out the rotted floor to the joists and put down a new ceramic tile floor! I was in a lot of pain and just kept going because this was before my fibro dx and I didn't know any better. It took me almost three months to do all of the work because of my pain levels, but I didn't get tired!

You don't have to have a dx from a doctor to buy a S.A.D. light on eBay. They are a bit pricey, but for me that light is a real life saver! I now use it about two hours a day in the bakery while I work. I also have a small desktop light my office that is aimed right at my face so it hits my retinas. The secret to overcoming S.A.D. is to get enough "sunlight" to the retina to trigger the pituitary into thinking it's still summer. I need to use the special broad spectrum lights that imitate sunlight to keep my sanity.

If you can't afford a light right now, keeping the drapes open, walking for about 15 minutes outside on every sunny day you can get, facing your desk toward the window, and, if your food plan allows it, eating a few more carbs every day will definitely help.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross

Post Edited (Jeannie143) : 10/16/2008 11:00:52 AM (GMT-6)


Marlee2
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   Posted 10/18/2008 7:19 AM (GMT -7)   
When I was healthy I never thought about cloudy days or shorter days I always had so much going on I didn't even notice. But since fibro every year seems to have gotten worse. It's dark at 6:30 now. I look at the clock every evening when it gets dark. Next month we turn the clocks back. cry I have sure been packing in the carbs too.
 
I do have plenty of sunshine coming in the back of the house in the mornings, if the sun is shinning. So this may very well be the year that I get a light box. Oh how I dread those gloomy winter days.
 
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 10/18/2008 7:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Marlee,
I don't dread those days anymore since I got my light. I look forward to using it much the way someone looks forward to the tanning booth. In fact, many peeps who are 'addicted' to tanning are really people with S.A.D.

After dinner dishes I'll often do my crafting or office work by the Happy Lite and it simply extends the daylight for me. If you can't afford a big box light, you can buy one of the reading ones and just aim it at your face. Not a perfect solution but better than nothing!
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


Sherrine
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   Posted 10/18/2008 1:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie, where do you get those lights and approximately how expensive do they run?  Do they have a name?  If I had that then I could check on line.  Would the desk lamp size be enough or do you get the best benefit from the large ones?  My two kids up north could probably use them and I think it would be a good Christmas gift for them.
 
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Post Edited (Sherrine) : 10/18/2008 2:31:03 PM (GMT-6)


chuzzle
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   Posted 10/18/2008 8:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie, I would like to know more about them also.
"For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." 2 Corinthians 4:6
 
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 10/18/2008 11:01 PM (GMT -7)   
When I got mine about five years ago I purchased a HappyLite by Verilux on Ebay for about $275 including shipping. I see that the cost of this light is now down to about $189 on one site and there is a small, tabletop one that's about $90. The big one is 10,000 LUX, which is the number that is used to measure the light output. The small tabletop model is a 5,000 LUX unit. You would probably need to use this one for a longer period of time or at a closer distance, but it's certainly worth the cost for the benefit.

The amazing thing to me is that my son, who has brown eyes, can barely come into the bakery or office when I have the light on, it seems so bright to him. I can gaze into it for minutes on end and all I feel is peace and warm. My eyes are grey/green. Very weird!

Anyway, some of the companies make large, clunky lights that are in the way and difficult to use. Look at the design of the lights before you make a purchase and be sure you have one that is broad spectrum with enough brightness to do you some good.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


tyno3
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   Posted 10/19/2008 3:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Our local drugstore carries them. They run around 150.00 or thereabouts.

Jaeann123
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   Posted 10/19/2008 9:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,

I am a consultant for indoor air quality. We help people with allergies, asthma, COPD or other breathing prolems by treating the air indoors. Since I have had an air purifier in my home, my fibro symptoms have improved some.

We actaully do have a great light for S.A.D available. They have become very popular already this season.
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Post Edited By Moderator (Marlee2) : 10/20/2008 8:35:02 AM (GMT-6)

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