An interesting theory and a question on supplements

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libertykitty
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   Posted 11/10/2008 10:00 PM (GMT -7)   
I went to the chiropractor for the first time today to get my intake x-rays done, and the doctor told me that FM occurs in people who have a neurological imbalance. He says women are more commonly diagnosed because we are more likely to use just one side of the brain - we are usually more creative and less into math so we use the right side of the brain more than the left. He told me that I should try doing math exercises to help my fibromyalgia! I am curious how many of you think you might be playing favorites with the sides of your brains, and which disagree and feel that they are balanced.

On the matter of supplements, he told me to take EPA fish oil (he actually said all Americans should be on them because our diet is awful). I have some but I'm not sure how much I should take. The label suggests 1 pill twice a day, totaling 2000mg of fish oil, 180mg EPA, and 120mg DHA. I was just curious if any of you are on it and how much you take. I'm on Vitamin D supplements after I tested very low for it, and after two weeks I've noticed no difference whatsoever but I'm still taking 1000mg daily. My mom also bought me "Fibro-Support" supplements with Malic Acid and MSM (and also magnesium). It suggests 3-4 pills daily. 3 tablets contain: 300mg magnesium, 1.2g malic acid, and 1.125g MSM, among other things. Again, I was curious how much malic acid/magnesium you guys take. I'm not thrilled about taking even 3 a day because they taste awful.

So, to review, these are my questions:
Do you feel that you are more creative than logical, more logical than creative, or balanced?
If you take EPA fish oil, how much?
If you take anything like the Fibro-Support I have, how much?

Thanks,
Sandi
Diagnosed with arachnoid cysts February 2002, fibromyalgia February 2008.
No meds right now, just Vitamin D supplements and ibuprofen for headaches.

Traveling to the Cleveland Clinic November 19th!!! Maybe this will finally be a good neurologist!


Sherrine
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   Posted 11/11/2008 5:25 AM (GMT -7)   

Sandi, I take malic acid/magnesium supplements and all the info about that is in the Fibro 101 thread.

I have a bottle of fish oil capsules and am waiting to ask my doctor how much I should take.  I also take Vitamin D.  It seems that many members are low in D.  I take 1,800 mg of that.

I'm both creative and logical.  I think someone has too much time on their hands to come up with that.  As a matter of fact, I can write my name forward with my right hand, write my name backwards with my left hand, and I can do both at the same time.  That means I am using both sides of my brain at the same time.  So, I do not agree with that assessment.

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MT Lady
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   Posted 11/11/2008 9:24 AM (GMT -7)   
I to am low, very low, in vitamin D. I was tested about 1-1/2 years ago and my endocrinologist put me on massive doses of it, prescription strength and after all that time, I am still on the low side of normal. I take it once a week, one week I take 100,000 units, the next week, 150,000 units. I know, sounds like a humongous amount, but that is prescribed by an endocrinoligist. I have read the it is very common in people with FMS to be low in vitamin D. I've also read that many people overall are low in D. It can cause some serious problems, so it is best that we have that checked out, via a blood test.

My cardiologist recommends that I take 3 grams a day of fish oil, that is 3 pills containing 1,000 mg a day, which I have been doing. I have a family history of cardiac disease, so I am not sure if that is a standard dose for everyone or not.

As far as "the brain thing" there are days that I don't think my brain is working at all!! Then again, there are the good days when I can be both logical and creative...so I guess I'm not much help there. I've been researching fibromyalgia for 20 years and never heard of what your doctor told you...strange...

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Nanda
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   Posted 11/11/2008 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow, I wonder what your doctor would say about me then? Years ago when I was going through a career change I had to take a ton of tests at a career center. At the end of it the counselor looked at me with a puzzled look and said well, I guess you can do anything you want. I apparently scored high in all areas and he couldn't fit me in a nice neat box. tongue
 
Anyway, I now do 3d visualization , (it's creative and technical) and I still hurt like h_e_double hockey sticks!

mamanan
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   Posted 11/11/2008 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry, I don't buy that theory either. I think that I am fairly balanced. I just got more creative for a couple years now, in my craft. And I have always been methodical and logical... all my t's have to be crossed and all my ducks in a row, so to speak!

I don't take fish oil, but it's somethign I shoudl look into.
I am takign the malic adic/magnesium combo (2400mg) as well as calcium and vitamin D. It has helped so much with the fatigue!

I just came back from the doctor's today, and all my levels are normal, yeah, me :D
Waiting for appointment with rheumy (March 2009) to get an official dx. waiting, waiting, waiting....
Taking malic acid/magnesium combo, what a life saver! and amitriptyline


CathyA
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   Posted 11/11/2008 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I have IBS-D, and I'd love to take fish oil......but just one capsule gives me worse diarrhea. Anyone else have that problem?

stitching star
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   Posted 11/11/2008 3:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I use both sides of my brain when my brain is working.  Which isn't often.
 
I am taking Vit D SHOTS once a month b/c my body is severely deficient in Vit D.  I cannot tolerate ANY oral form of Vit D, heck the shots make me feel icky, but at least I don't vomit them up. I DO end up taking zofran or phenergan for the nausea.  It astounds me that a SHOT can make me sick to my tummy, but it does.
 
I cannot tolerate any magnesium b/c it gives me severe diarrhea.  The fish oil pills are also something that makes me vomit.  Same for flax seed oil pills.
 
I wish I had advice for anyone.  I have to pay a fortune for the Vit D shots from a place that makes them specially for me.  I give them to myself.  We are PRAYING that this next shot gets me to feeling like a human again.  And maybe helps with my headaches.
 
I think you should ask your doc how many of each supplement you should take.  Many docs are more informed on that now.
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Carnissa
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   Posted 11/11/2008 5:49 PM (GMT -7)   
cathy- it may be the kind of fish oil you are taking... i was always told to take salmon oil or cod oil.. as your body has an easier time digesting ( don't know if that is true or not)

I have to disagree with that diagnoses.... i have never heard that... although if you are left handed you are right brain dominate and if you are right handed you are left brain dominate so that should not affect fibro and i would be asking to see the research on that

I am curious though how many of us are left handed vs right handed

I take 500mg magnesium a day and 560 mg of malic acid a day but just uped that this week only started a few weeks ago though
i take a multi vitamin and i take a b-100 complex 3 times a day since it helps metabolize proteins fats and carbs
no vitamin D as of yet... but that might change

Irish Babe
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   Posted 11/11/2008 7:38 PM (GMT -7)   

Sandi, Sounds strange to me. I believe that I've had FMS all my life and for many yrs of my life - I taught math. I actually like working w/ numbers and solving puzzles. I analyze things to death, just ask my family turn . I, too would like to see his 'research'.

I talk a multi vitamin, 2 fish oil pills, and 3 malic and mag pills each day. 

I am right handed, the only thing I can do w/ my left is snap my fingers (can't do it w/ my right, tho). My father could do math like a wiz, add a long strip of numbers up in his head, and use both hands to do about anything, he had the most beautiful handwriting & he also had dyslexia. After about 3-5 min, my handwriting is horrible, but my numbers are gorgeous.lol  I also like to do many crafts, and some of them require math skills, so there is no escape for the two sides of my brain. I think your dr. needs some adjustments devil .

God bless.   Alice.

 


Leeriesan
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   Posted 11/11/2008 8:26 PM (GMT -7)   
I think I am fairly balanced with creativity and logic, however math has always been my least favorite thing to do - though that doesn't mean I was ever horrible at it - I just hated it. That theory doesn't seem like a very sound theory. It more seems like something someone thought up and started telling people at random - not something that was tested.
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   Posted 11/11/2008 9:22 PM (GMT -7)   

I don't have a creative bone in my body.  I hate math and I suck at it, but I'm very logical and full of common sense.  I believe Fibro is related to child abuse and physical pain or some major trauma (I was in an accident resulting in a ruptured disk when I was 18 years old.  I also believe that low seritonin is a major part.

I bet we are all extremely sensitive to EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE.  I bet we all have a LOT in common if we talked about our childhood life, etc.  I bet we are all type A personalities and stress or worry tremondously about things that most people don't.

I too am extremely low in vitamin D.  I take extra D with my multi vitamins.

Take care,
Tricia
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   Posted 11/11/2008 11:23 PM (GMT -7)   

Yah.  Y'see my name?  Stat geek?  That stands for a dorky person who thinks the mathematical thingy called statistics is fun and interesting.  I tutor statistics privately because I like it so much.  I am pretty good at it and guess what?  I have fibromyalgia.  Yesterday I had a flare and hurt all over so badly - skin ached like the flu.

I do not think there is any real scientific research to back his hypothesis.

Sue


Sherrine
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   Posted 11/12/2008 6:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Tricia, I had an idyllic childhood with two loving, positive thinking parents and I still have fibro.  I have not been in accidents or had trauma of any kind.  I was watching television when this hit!  I think there is something, maybe a virus, that comes out many times when people have accidents, etc.  Whatever it is, it's elusive!
 
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Marlee2
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   Posted 11/12/2008 8:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I have always been creative but math is not one of my things.
 
Fish oil is good for everyone. I am so bad at remembering to take the supplements I should take. I have not noticed fish oil giving me the big D but so many things do I may not of noticed.
 
Susie you wouldn't think that shots can cause nausea but they won't give me pain patches cause so many meds make me sick to my stomach and they said pain patches would make me even sicker.
 
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Dagger
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   Posted 11/12/2008 11:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I am an artist and I take college level math classes for fun.

profgary61
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   Posted 11/15/2008 7:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone, I'm new here and just joined today.

I had an A+ average in Art College in Illustration back in the 80's. More recently I had the Chance to go to Mechanical Engineering College with University math abound....lol. Oh and I forgot to mention that I was tested with a Learning Disability and told my Math was very poor and went on to take upgrade classes in Tech math grades 11 and 12 and score mid 90's in both. I was dxd in 98 with Rheumatoid Arthritis and guest what I have had High EBV in my blood test all this time and I have most of the symptoms of FM. So I'm inclined to think this theory is not a very good one.

I'm going to try to get a new doctor to get more testing done for FM very soon I hope.
I'm really enjoying this forum TY

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