Alcohol = Herx!?

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SickInCT
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   Posted 11/12/2008 4:49 PM (GMT -7)   
So this is something I find very interesting, lately I have been told by many sources that when we herx this is good. Well.. how about alcohol? Everytime I have even a sip hours later or the next day I have the worst flare you could ever imagine!!! This only started about 6 years ago after I got sick, before this I could drink as much as I wanted. What if the alcohol is killing the spiroceet that is thought of to be the cause of fibro or lyme exc.

How do we know the difference between a good herx and just aggravating our condition?

Sherrine
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   Posted 11/12/2008 4:57 PM (GMT -7)   
It's Lyme disease patients that herx...not fibromyalgia.  We have many similarities with Lyme, and lupus, and MS, but we don't have the bacteria in the cells like some with Lyme do.  That's caused by the bite of a tick.   
 
Check out the Fibro 101 thread as I suggested in your other post.  You will find info about fibromyalgia.  Also in that thread there is a link called "What Else Could It Be".  This is why we are thoroughly checked out before a diagnosis of fibromyalgia is given.  They want to rule out Lyme, lupus, etc.  You can have both Lyme and fibro but those of us that only have fibro do not have the bacteria in our cells that we are trying to kill.
 
If you have Lyme disease, we have a wonderful Lyme forum here on HealingWell.  In the bar at the top of the page is our forum quick jump.  Scan down until you see Lyme and then click on it and it will take  you to the Lyme forum.
 
Sherrine
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SickInCT
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   Posted 11/12/2008 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks. Well they keep changing my diagnosis. I test negative for all the lyme tests including WB so my main Dr says its fibromyalgia. The lyme bacteria was found in my body under a microscope but he is relying on the AB test to say its not lyme.


Idk about the herx because what about the ppl with fibro that herx on the Guaifenesin protocol? The GP is designed for fibro

donnaeil
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   Posted 11/12/2008 9:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Umm, part of fibro is to be alcohol intolerant, it just is not good for us. Sigh, for a glass of wine...

Donnaeil

Sherrine
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   Posted 11/13/2008 5:55 AM (GMT -7)   
I would find a Lyme literate doctor if I were you.  If you have Lyme bacteria in your cells it will only get worse without proper treatment.  The Lyme forum will be able to help you find a good doctor.  If left untreated, Lyme patients can get very, very ill.  Hope you find the right answers!
 
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AustenFan
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   Posted 11/13/2008 6:48 AM (GMT -7)   
What is herx?

"There is no charm equal to tenderness of  heart." - Jane Austen
 
 
Fibromyalgia, 2 back surgeries, Meniere's Disease, 30+ kidney stones, GERD, IBS, Asthma, Allergies, Endometriosis, Heart Arrythmia, Myofascial Pain, TMJ.
 
 
 
 
 
 


mamanan
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   Posted 11/13/2008 7:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I was going to ask too, what's a herx?
Waiting for appointment with rheumy (March 2009) to get an official dx. waiting, waiting, waiting....
Taking malic acid/magnesium combo, what a life saver! and amitriptyline


Jeannie143
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   Posted 11/13/2008 8:10 AM (GMT -7)   
When Lymies are treated with antibiotics the deaths of the bacteria releases toxins into their bodies and it's a bit overwhelming for their systems. The amount of toxins present causes them to feel very ill, often like they have severe fibro and it lasts until their livers and kidneys can get some equilibrium back in their bodies by filtering out the gunk left from the bacteria. Because it takes a while for the bugs to all be caught, (and sometimes they aren't all caught!) they feel ill while on the antibiotic therapy. The way they feel is called 'herxing' and is sometimes used as proof positive that they have Lyme and not some other diagnosis.
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mamanan
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   Posted 11/13/2008 8:15 AM (GMT -7)   
thank you Jeannie :)
Waiting for appointment with rheumy (March 2009) to get an official dx. waiting, waiting, waiting....
Taking malic acid/magnesium combo, what a life saver! and amitriptyline

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