I have got to get in better physical shape for my mental well being.

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Marlee2
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   Posted 1/24/2009 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Okay, Ken is feeling much better, we even went to the army base after our meds yesterday. As I said he is going to do 12 weeks of cardio to build himself back up from not being as active in the past few months which is great. Even when his heart was beating at half speed and he had a clogged artery he still had more energy than me. So this has me thinking and feeling inadequate cause he will really be running circles around me. Now I'm more determined to find a way to get my energy level up but I really don't know how to fix myself since fatigue was my first symptom and I was in shape when it started. I'm going to try exercise slowly with the thought of, you have to use energy to get energy, but I don't know how much that is going to help.
 
I am so happy that he is fixed for the most part. He is going to have a test done Mon on his gallbladder and he still has the sinus surgery to do. Boy when he falls apart he falls quickly. But I think for the first time since getting fibro I'm really feeling like I'm being left behind or something, like I'm not good enough. He isn't making me feel like that he puts no demands on me I can't handle. But I want to be able to keep up with my almost 66 yr old husband.
 
So for those that are getting older and have arthritis and other things along with fibro how can I increase the energy without the meds they rx like provigil and adderal. Walking is first on my list of course. I don't have access to a pool unless I want to drive a long way.
 
Thanks and if anyone wants to do this with me I would love it.
 
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   Posted 1/24/2009 11:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Marlee, I know what you're going through. Every time I think I might get in shape (I've tried at least three times seriously) the fatigue gets me. I joined a gym to do warm water exercises. I didn't really like the class, but whenever I went I was so tired, I couldn't do anything else all day. This has happened with other exercise programs too. Let me know how it goes. Diane
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   Posted 1/24/2009 11:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Marlee,

I think that the walking is the best idea to begin with. It is good for you and not too strainous. Please don't over do it and end up in a flare. I know that you want to get stronger, but that comes with time.

There is a book called 'Minding the body, mending the mind'. You might want to check that out. It just shows ways to get healthy and feel better mentally too. Just a thought.

I hope that you start feeling better. Remember, Ken doesn't have fibro like you do. So go slow.

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   Posted 1/24/2009 12:47 PM (GMT -7)   

Marlee, this sounds like a good idea for both of you. I have always been a walker, now I'm almost on one. But I continue to walk. I had a problem w/ my DH and exercising. When I would incorporate a new exercise, I would try to get him on board, too. He wasn't interested. He felt he did enough at work. He is busy w/ work, but it was the overall exercise he needed. I also have a bike in the house. I have a prob w/ balance, so I hesitant to ride one on the roads. I walk on the boardwalk two blocks over from me (in nice weather - early in the morning - spring, summer, fall) I walk in the mall early in the day, before the stores open (winter, rainy, snowy). I have a ball, like a beach ball size, that I use for arm exercises, to crawl up the wall & hold over my head and swing it side to side. I have stretch bands to exercise my arms and legs. I have a hard time w/ getting up and down on the floor. I don't have the power in my hands/arms to push myself up. I also can't brace on my knees. I can't afford a pool, mine or the Y.

Can you use some of the ideas that Ken will have in his cardio workouts? Start slowly, see what you can tolerate, and build up as you can. Keep plenty of water on hand for both of you to keep hydrated.

I would be very interested in any other ideas you have for exercies, we can do this. We are WOMEN, hear us ROAR, or at least meow. Remember, YOU are never 'not good enough'. You have health issues. You have always tried to do your best, for you and your family. Do not be hard on yourself. You are a very strong lady, much loved and admired.

God bless.  Alice. 

 


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   Posted 1/24/2009 1:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Marlee, walking is great and so is a walking-in-place video when the weather is bad.  That does give me more energy.  I use one by Leslie Sansone.  She has a lot of them and I'll help you pick out one like what I have if you decide to go that route.
 
Also, vitamin D deficiency can cause fatigue.  I now take 2,000 IU of vitamin D3 a day so that gives me 14,000 IU a week!  I have more energy and less pain, too!  I counted what was in my calcium supplements and my multiple vitamin and then added the rest.  They are inexpensive, too.  Hope this helps.
 
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Marlee2
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   Posted 1/24/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -7)   
As always you girls are so sweet and helpful. I think I will go with him Mon morning and see what they have in store for him. I think his doc wants a monitor on him for this. I'm so happy he has a new lease on life, I think we both feel like he dodged a bullet with his heart. He is my rock and my rock was crumbling and that was very scary. I don't want to pass him up but it would be nice to keep him in my sights. turn He understands that my fibro isn't going anywhere.
 
I'm going to start by dusting off the treadmill and I do have elastic bands on it to exercise my arms while I walk. The diet has to change starting with the sugar addiction I have. Krissy will do a lot for me when the weather gets nice enough to go out. Today it is only 14 degrees, I won't be out there. Maybe I can get her to walk on the treadmill too. I got so sore last weekend with all the walking I did at the hos I know I have to start slow. I wish I had a mall close but I don't.
 
That sounds like a good book Karen.
 
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   Posted 1/24/2009 4:36 PM (GMT -7)   
The one thing I learned when I began an exercise program was I had to devote the days energy to exercise only. In the beginning I would exercise and have only enough energy to make a sandwich.

I did not clean house, make meals that took a lot of effort or do much of anything other than my water exercises. I started slow with and Arthritis foundation recommended class and work my way up to aerobics within a few months.

It is far easier for me to exercise in water than it is on land because I cannot do mush walking before I feel excruciating pain.

I plan to purchase a home walking DVD and I hope I use it 3 times per week in addition to my swimming.

The Arthritis foundation has DVDs for people who really need a slower start. They are exercise and tai chi videos. I have one but find the music boring so I use my own during the program.

I am a terrible at home exerciser. Lots of people are like me. One of the greatest influences on adhering to an exercise routine is having people who are working out with you. This is why people attend classes.


I drink ensure, chocolate milk or about 6 oz of fruit juice after each session to restore the glycogen in my muscles. I try to drink water during and after my workouts.

I want to be in shape for when I have grandchildren. I want to hold them and play with them so I work on strength, endurance and flexibility.

It is wonderful that you plan to keep up with hubby.

Donnaeil

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   Posted 1/24/2009 6:58 PM (GMT -7)   
It's such a Catch-22 eh? That's totally been my experience until I tried the Pilates. (I started another thread about it before I read this one!)
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   Posted 1/24/2009 7:08 PM (GMT -7)   
I am happy to know that the arthritis foundation has tai chi dvds. I am going to check that out. Always wanted to learn.

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   Posted 1/24/2009 11:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Just a quick note Marlee... I take provigil and it's helped me so very much. For me it has no side effects, doesn't make me 'buzz'. It just allows me to be more awake. I can take it and if I choose to nap in the afternoon I have no problem at all...lol. But I can understand if you'd prefer to not take any meds.

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   Posted 1/25/2009 5:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Marlee,

I think this was the best post. This could really help all of us to get moving. I am giving in way too much to this "thing" and not pushing. You motivated me and just thinking about all Ken has been through.

I want to mention something else. I have read for the aging, especially fibro people, to try to learn something entirely new. Apparently it stimulates a part of the brain that really helps with chronic pain. For example study a foreign language, take up a new musical instrument, anything you have no ability with. I am going to try to do this. Apparently it also provides a good diversion. Off your subject a little but interesting.

Sounds like your mate has a fabulous outlook on life. Man that is great.

Hugs, Patsie

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   Posted 1/25/2009 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   

Marlee you can't compare yourself to Ken- heck, my 76 year old stepdad can spin circles around me prior to fibro even!

I too think you would like walking. It keeps my muscle strength up and it seems to be the easiest on my body. I know walking at the mall is not an option for you, but the treadmill will work for now and then like you said when spring gets here you and Krissy can get outside and walk. Thats all you need to do for now- baby steps. Then down the road if you want to do a little more, look into gentle yoga or Pilates, or whatever sounds interesting to you.

I had to walk the hospital too this week with my stepbrother having his heart surgery and it was a little too much- 

My body tells me how far I can go- and I cannot do the whole mall yet and when I walk outside, it is only about 5 long blocks. When I make a trip to the grocery store, I try to push myself and get through the whole store, even if I just do the perimeter of it. It's slow going but compared to where I was it seems like I can do miles now. :-)

I'm with you on this- 


 
 
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   Posted 1/25/2009 12:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I had my D and magnesium checked the first part of Dec and when I finally remembered to call for the results the nurse said if there was a problem I would get the results in the mail, I haven't received anything so I take it they were okay.
 
I have those tapes Sherrine. I am so bad about doing those boring routines, I'd rather scrub floors. Actually, I would get a lot more satisfaction out of cleaning my house than using my energy to do something unproductive.
 
Guess I will use treadmill for cardio to get me going and then use my house for strength training. I want to clean out my kitchen cabinets so that means up and down on stool and lifting for my arms.
 
My oldest sister joined Curves and is going three times a week so of course, like most people, she doesn't understand why I can't. I told her I did join Curves a few years ago and after the first visit, not knowing much about fibro at the time, I thought I was going to die. Because I did have a medical condition they let me out of the contract. She got really sore the first time she went and I said, "imagine feeling like that most days and that is the way my muscles feel". I'm sure she didn't get it but.............
 
I have noticed like when my niece comes to help me clean I get more done cause I feel bad that she is cleaning my house so I need volunteers from you girls to come help me clean from top to bottom, clean out all cabinets, drawers and closets and paint some rooms. Wouldn't that be fun if we could go to each others houses and have a cleaning party every week??? We would all get exercise and have fun doing it but we would never find anything in our houses again.
 
I tried Provigil but can't remember what side effects I had from it that made me quit taking it. I don't get sleepy, it's fatigue.
 
Patsie we can set goals together if you want or if anyone else wants, five minutes on treadmill tomorrow or walking in place???
 
Thanks for all your ideas on how to get me fit or moving anyway.  turn
 
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   Posted 1/25/2009 3:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok Marlee just got my mail..You are on, I will spend the 5 full minutes as you say. Let's see how we do and go from there. any other takers?? Perhaps we could really motivate one another and check in. Great idea!!!

I have my doctor tomorrow to check the D etc. The results have been in but I have been slow getting in to an appt. So many doctors and I have just had it. Prior my D was very low.

I could reach your cabinets without a ladder Marlee. How would that be? I'm a second story girl.

Hugs,

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   Posted 1/25/2009 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Marlee, when you use the treadmill, don't try to work out your arms at the same time. It would probably be too much for you. I do between 30-45 minutes on a treadmill 5x/week at a pace just slower than running. I just keep my arms resting on the side rails. If I swing them for any length of time, I wake up the next day feeling like I got hit by a truck. It's very weird and no one can tell me why exercising my legs is fine but moving my arms wipes me out.

Start very slowly, you can't rely on your body to let you know when you've had enough. I think our bodies only like to tell us when we've done way too much. If 5 minutes is all you can do, that's still 5 minutes more than nothing. Take it easy and don't increase anything until you can do that 5 minutes a day without paying for it. When that time feels ok, then increase your time by a minute or two. Remember, you are taking baby steps. Don't let it frustrate you and don't give up.

Everyone's fibro is different so you'll have to experiment to find out what's best for you.

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   Posted 1/26/2009 4:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Dagger,

I have n elliptical I had to give up on and now wonder if it is pulling that bar with my arms, very interesting. It is quite a great work out so perhaps will try it again and not pull with arms.

Thanks for the point, Patsie :)

P.S. will do baby steps and be proud I am trying, right!!

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   Posted 1/26/2009 9:04 AM (GMT -7)   
I was flexing my right foot yesterday and woke up this morning with the calf muscles so sore I can barely walk. This is unbelievable how little it takes to make my muscles sore. And we wonder why it is so hard for people without fibro to understand this. shocked I have to have Ken make the treadmill level cause I can't do any kind of incline without my back hurting, I've had a back problem long before fibro and now I have arthritis in it.
 
I was 5' 3 3/4" the last time I was measured Patsie so I could use you for the high shelves.
 
I shall see how much I get done today.
 
Thanks Dagger I won't work my arms.
 
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   Posted 1/26/2009 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
can i join in, too? this year i decided i have GOT to kick my sugar addiction and have GOT to lose the 60lbs i've packed on in the past 5 years. hubby and i just started the sout beach diet today and i have started walking on my treadmill every day and have kept it up for a week now, but i would love to work towards my goals with other people! i need every little bit of encouragement i can get and would love to help other people stick with their goals, too!
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   Posted 1/26/2009 10:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Come on Danielle. Let's inspire one another..... don't have the energy to search out a Pilates dvd right now but am going to walk for 20 minutes this afternoon. No excuses, of course I may look like a turtle..

Marlee, I cannot agree more with how little it takes to really suffer. My son told me to think about fibro like I did in athletics. DOES NOT work b/c I can do next to nothing and feel like I have run a marathon.

Let's start really slow.

Patsie

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   Posted 1/26/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
ok, i'm in! i will do as much as i can on the treadmill and then report back:-)

and i can safely say that i will NOT be doing pilates any time soon. i tried that years ago, way before fibro came into my life, and oh my goodness it HURT!!!!
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   Posted 1/26/2009 2:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Danielle and all,

did as much as I felt I could this afternoon. My pup was so happy b/c I always walked him but really got out of it lately. Now today was a start and tomorrow hopefully I won't wake up dying. I stretched a lot and warmed up slowly.

what did you guys do??????

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   Posted 1/27/2009 8:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Ken wasn't up to helping with the treadmill so didn't walk on it. I went to one of my favorite stores that is going out of business does that count as exercise??? smilewinkgrin Didn't do too well with the sugar thing either. I will try harder today.
 
Sure Danielle, the more the merrier. I would like to lose 20 lbs. My body has gotten so flabby in the past few years I can't stand to look at myself.
 
I would love to be able to walk Krissy outside, it would be so much more fun but I'm not walking out there when the temp is in the teens.
 
Good luck today girls.
 
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   Posted 1/27/2009 8:31 AM (GMT -7)   
hey all,

well, yesterday wasn't too great on the exercise-i only did 10 minutes on the treadmill. but i also scrubbed down my kitchen-does that count? lol

yesterday was my first official sugar/carb free day (hubby and i are on the south beach diet together) and i am happy to report that i did not eat a single carb or a drop of sugar! (this is a major accomplishment for me lol) however, i am unhappy to report that i am going through some serious carb/sugar withdrawals-yucky headache, naseau, fatigue. i would say this is all just fibro, but the headache feels more like the withdrawal headaches i had when i kicked caffeine.

today i am not sure how much i will do. i slept terribly last night and am still dealing with the headache. i will do something today, even if just a little bit, and let you all know what i accomplished later on..

{{{{{you can do it hugs!}}}}}}} to everyone :-)
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   Posted 1/27/2009 8:39 AM (GMT -7)   
OK Danielle we'll count the kitchen floor cause that is a real workout. I have men power washing my filthy porch today so am trapped in here until they finish so I can keep an eye on things. I will get out and walk again this afternoon. I am not at all sore from yesterday.

Marlee, the shopping doesn't count unless you got some good deals:).

Don't want to tell you how very beautiful it is here in the Tampa area today. I have zero excuses for not walking!!!

Take good care and report what you do!!!

patsie

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   Posted 1/27/2009 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I'll tell them, Patsie!  It will be sunny and 78 degrees here today!  devil    Patsie, I always rub in the great weather here in the winter.  turn
 
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