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SleepyBug
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   Posted 2/4/2009 9:35 AM (GMT -7)   
hi everyone!

so due to wanting to loose some weight, i finally kicked my sugar habit! (hooray! this is truly a miracle in my case lol). i haven't had any sugar at all (no sugar, honey, corn syrup, maple syrup..nothing!) in 10 days. one wonderful thing i have noticed is that my pain and fatigue seems to be much less. i am not having terrible afternoon fatigue crashes and i am not waking up nearly as sore as i used to. i am not going to say i feel good enough to run the boston marathon or anything, but i am definitely noticing an improvement in how i feel. i'm wondering if anyone has exprienced anything like this after going off sugar? or is it just me?

also, after about 48 hours when my withdrawal headache finally went away, i noticed that my craving for sugar pretty much completely disappeared and i haven't had any cravings since then. does anyone know if that's normal, too? i thought kicking sugar was going to be way harder than this!

i hope you're all having a relatively pain free, happy day!
love and hugs
~danielle


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MT Lady
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   Posted 2/4/2009 12:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Danielle,
about two years ago I was told to avoid cane sugar, gluten and coffee, both regular and decaf. That I have a food sensitivity to them and that is what is causing the burning pain I experience, from inflammation. Anyone I told just shook their heads at me, but nonetheless, I did try to avoid all three. Since that time, I haven't had a drop of coffee, I switched to tea and have that in the morning or when I need caffeine. I read labels and avoid cane sugar. As far as the gluten, hasn't been as easy for me since my love in life is bread. Yes, there are gluten free breads, but believe me, not the same. So I can go for days eliminating everything I should and yes, I can feel a difference...BUT, it's never enough so I can say I have kicked fibro, or even get off medications. However, when I do have bread, I do know I ate it. My pain is definitely worse. I've read that sugar causes inflammation which can cause pain. I just don't know if that is something we can believe???
Miriam

Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, scoliosis, back problems, hypothyroidism.


lucysgd
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   Posted 2/4/2009 12:20 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey Danielle - Good for you!  I need to get back on the wagon myself.  I have "quit" sugar many times over the years.  M&M's are still not allowed in my house! (I have no control - I swear there is a pharmaceutical of the addictive kind in them).  I experienced exactly what you described.  First the headache, then the cravings going away, and then feeling a whole lot better.  My problem has always been at the point where I decide I can have just a bite or whatever small amount seems "harmless".  Sugar must truly be addicting - because after that first bite - I don't care how small it is - or how long it's been -the cravings eventually returned for me.....and then I fall off the wagon. 

I quit smoking 25 years ago.  I tried many times before actually succeeding.  I know without question if I smoked a cigarette now ( despite hating the smell, smoke, etc.) I would soon be looking for the next one.  I guess I have a very "addictive personality" whatever that is.  I say it's more about physiology.  At any rate.....keep up the good work, and be wary of high carbs, alcohol, or anything containing sugar for as long as you possibly can.  I think the longest I ever went was 2 mos.  Then it was summer and ice cream suddenly seemed like a good idea.  nono

You've inspired me...think I'll give it a go again.  Just ate my last Hershey Nugget with almond anyway.  Stay strong!

Lucy


diagnoses:  mono 1972; postviral CFS 1997; fibro 1998;  UCTD (dx limbo) 2007
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acscr9
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   Posted 2/4/2009 12:45 PM (GMT -7)   

SleepyBug,

I had the same type of reactions that you have had while eliminating things from my body. I only allow myself to use the real sugar, not splenda or nutri sweet or anything. Even then, I try to not consume very much. I noticed that once I made an effort to cut out the aspartame, I felt SOO much better. Who knew that Crystal Light made me feel so bad. Once I found out about the Fibro, I read up on diets and what has helped people and I gave up coffee and just about all caffiene. The only time i get it is a little bit of chocolate. I also gave up carbonation. I have recently found out that I am gluten sensitive and have really worked at staying on the Gluten Free diet. It is challenging, but I feel so much better because of it.

Everything you have gone through with the headache and the decreased cravings sounds pretty normal. Keep up the good work!!

Aimee


24. Diagnosed with Fibro in Aug. 08 and Seasonal Affectiveness Disorder in December 08. Gluten free since Nov. 08.
 
Surgeries: Compartment Syndrome/Medial Tibial Stress Syndrome Dec. 05; Lap Nissen Fundoplacation Aug 06; Exploratory Lap Feb. 08.
 
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 2/4/2009 1:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm diabetic and got to the point where I couldn't afford my expensive medications.(We are without insurance.) My friends on the diabetes forum here got me started on a "nothing white but cauliflower and cottage cheese" food plan. My fibro didn't improve but my arthritis and GERD calmed waaaay down. I remarked on this to my doctor and she said there is a definite correlation between carbohydrates and inflammation. I asked, "Why is it such a big secret?" She remarked that most people do not want to give up their bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, noodles and snack foods. She said that doctors get discouraged trying to help people who "just want a pill to make it better", so that's what they do! We have both been very pleased with my food plan changes and the resulting better health.

Maybe humans just aren't programmed to consume so many carbs and sugars. We've only been practicing agriculture for about 8,000 - 10,000 years so maybe our bodies are still having a hard time with grains and sugars.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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MT Lady
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   Posted 2/4/2009 1:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I really believe the secret to good health is eliminating the "white" foods, all the processing, etc. That is what I was told, Jeannie, about the inflammation. Lately I have been hearing about heart disease and they refer to it as inflammation in the arteries so maybe doctors are trying to address it more with their patients. The doctor I had seen is an MD, but she also practices Chinese medicine, so her theories aren't that popular. I just wish I was better at staying away from the white stuff. As long as I keep it out of my house, I'm good, but my DH is the one the usually decides he wants crackers, etc and then I crumble...like a cracker LOL !!
I don't know about anyone here, but I am dealing with a major flare, since Sunday. We bought all kinds of premade appetizers, EVERYTHING was breaded and made that our dinner watching the game. I've been paying for it since.
Miriam

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jewelrylady
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   Posted 2/4/2009 2:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Danielle, I am cutting out sugar & flour from my diet, i am trying to lose weight again for the umpteenth time.  I am not going low carb like I have in the past because I can lose alot but gain it right back when I add the carbs back.  I have never notice a change in either my energy level or my pain when I am off sugar & carbs but this time I am going to do a lifestyle change & just try to be healthy in my eating.  I have always loved the foods I ate on the low carb diet so I will balance that out with some fruit.   Hoefully, I can lose weight & over the long term be healthier.  I am proud of you for kciking the sugar habit.  Let's hope I can make it 10 days, WOW, good for you.  Hugs, Denise

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donnaeil
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   Posted 2/4/2009 11:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I would rather exercise. lol

Donnaeil

patsie
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   Posted 2/5/2009 5:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Danielle,

I have always believed white sugar is a major drug, very addictive. It is the major cause of inflammation in our bodies. I find a direct correlation between the "white foods" and pain. Potatoes are my biggest weakness and I have really cut them back, big difference. We really are what we eat and it just is what it is. Some professionals say sugar is as addictive as cocaine, it really kills us.

This is the reason I composed the post on diet and fibro some time ago. We don't want to deal with this b/c everything else in our lives is so limiting but we really need to address what we put in our mouths. It has not caused fibro but certainly makes the pain worse.

Patsie

Marlee2
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   Posted 2/5/2009 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm working on the sweets but not there yet. I haven't had a Payday since Jan 31st that's a start for me. I've been eating dried fruits and nuts instead. I have had some fat free candy but not sugar free. It has to be baby steps for me when it comes to sweets. I should chew gum when I want sweets.
 
The anti-depressants sure don't help when it comes to giving up the sweets and carbs.
 
You should be very proud of yourself Danielle. Keep up the good work.
 
luv and hugs
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Meggie
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   Posted 2/5/2009 6:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Sugar is evil devil  but I love it so much.  Actually, I have been mostly sugar free since December 26th.  I had a few slips when I had a severe migraine for three days and I pretty much just grabbed the first thing I found to eat with my medicines.  That thing was sugar but balanced sugar (zone bars) so I didn't feel to guilty.  I have known for a long time that sugar and flour are problems for me, they make my fatigue unbearable.  My husband has noticed an improvement in my energy and commented on it.  He is not a believer in the no sugar life style so for him to say something positive about it just reinforces my commitment to it.
 
I keep falling off the wagon but I keep trying and hopefully one day I can say, I don't want any sugar and really mean it.  Baby steps!
Meggie
 
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SleepyBug
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   Posted 2/7/2009 8:33 AM (GMT -7)   
thank you everyone for your input and encouragement! i am on day 12 now (hooray!) and still not a bit of craving for sugar. the weird thing, though, is that i've pretty much lost my craving for food altogether. nothing sounds good to me anymore. i wonder if sugar was increasing my appetite in general? does that make any sense at all? lol i don't know..but food just sounds..yuck to me lately. i don't know what's going on. i feel hunger pains like normal, but when i think about eating, i just don't want to. i make myself eat, of course, but i just don't enjoy it much anymore.

except for popcorn, oddly enough. i've been having weird cravings for popcorn and have no idea why! so weird.

anyway!

miriam-i cut out caffeine awhile ago and did notice it lessened my gerd issues. i've also been off of glueten these past couple of weeks and have noticed a definite improvement digestively speaking. i've never been officially diagnosed with a gluten allergy, but it does run in my family so i wouldn't be surprised if i have a bit of one myself. i know what you mean about the gluten free bread, too. i tried that ezekial bread once and ugh! it was just..not right! lol also, i notice i feel worse when i have a lot of breaded carb based foods, too. along with not having sugar, i've also cut out all "white" stuff-except for potatoes. i can't seem to totally give up potatoes lol. i have cut back to only having them twice a week, though, so that's better than nothing.

lucy-i know just what you mean! i think i have an addictive personality, too. (still trying to quit smoking..i have cut way down, though, so at least that's something) i am the same way with sugar-i can't just have a little bite..i have to eat a ton of it to feel satisfied. i'd like to get to the point where i can have just a little like on holidays and special occasions but i am so afraid that if i have even a little, i will fall off the wagon. my birthday is coming up and every year i always have a german chocolate cake 'cause it's my favorite hmmmmm but i am terrified to have any! i'm thinking of making one from scratch using xylitol in place of sugar. i've used it for baking before and it works really well. i'm trying to stay strong!! :-)

aimee-i have heard that aspertaime and the like can cause problems in people with fibro. i had the same problem with crystal light myself! i bought some of those "on the go" packs awhile back and used them for a couple of days and started to feel absolutely horrible! as soon as i stopped drinking them, i started to feel better so i figured it must be the fake sugar stuff. oddly enough, though, i've been allowing myself to have sugar free pudding and jello for dessert in the evening and haven't really noticed a difference-maybe because i'm only having a little bit?

jeannie-my doctor told me about carbs and inflammation a couple of years ago, too. (i didn't listen at the time, though..lol) i have also read that people of northern european descent have a harder time with carbs and sugar..i wonder if there's truth to that? i am of irish/scottish ancestery and i definitely feel worse when i load up on the carbs.

denise-i'm just trying to be healthier, too. i realized i was getting like NO good food in my diet at all (my diet has been terrible for the last couple of years) and i really wanted to get more veggies and protein in my diet, so i figured if i cut sugar out maybe there'd be more room in my stomach for the good stuff lol i want to lose weight too (i've slowly gained 60 lbs in 6 years-ugh!!!!) but i keep telling myself to focus on good health, not weight. when i focus on weight i start feeling bad about myself and then i want to eat bad foods. good luck to you on changing your eating habits, too!!! you can do it! :-)

donnaeil-haha-i know what you mean. i'd rather exercise, too, but i had gotten to the point where i felt so awful i just had no energy for exercise. i was hoping that cutting out sugar would increase my energy enough so that i could exercise again and it does seem to be helping. i've been walking every day and doing my yoga stretches in the evening and i've also joined my local Y. i really want to start swimming again, but am waiting to go until my new swimsuit comes in from amazon. hopefully i'll be joining you in the swimming club soon! :-)

patsie-i'm starting to think sugar is highly addictive, too. a few years ago, i worked in a bakery and would eat the baked goods..and then i wanted more..and more..and more..until i was eating sugar every day a couple of times a day. this went on until a couple of weeks ago when i quit "cold turkey". i definitely think my body became addicted to sugar!

marlee-good for you on the baby steps! i have tried that before, but something about sugar just makes me want more and more and more and i can't do just a little. i try to have just a little, but it always turns into a LOT! that's wonderful if the baby steps work for you-i wish it worked for me!

meggie-my hubby has commented on my increased energy, too, which is an added bonus. i actually had a rough day last week where i realized-hey, i feel better, i have more energy, but yet i still don't feel ALL better and 100%. i got really depressed because i realized no matter what dietary and exercise changes i make, i will never be totally fibro free and i will still have to deal with some pain and some fatigue for the rest of my life. oh man, i was a mess when i was confronted with this. i think in the back of my mind i was holding on to that wishful thinking that if i kicked sugar and white flour i would magically be all better. (silly, isn't it?) after talking it out with my hubby though i realized i just have to deal with it and do the best i can. i may not be all better, but i AM better, and that's something to feel good about!

thanks again everyone. you are all so awesome! i don't know if i will be able to stick with this forever-i'm sure temptation will come knocking on my door eventually and i don't know if i'm strong enough to fight it-but one day at a time, right? for now, i'm sugar free and all i can do is keep on keeping on!
love and hugs
~danielle


fibromyalgia, ibs, gerd, anxiety

We either make ourselves happy or miserable. The amount of work is the same.~Carlos Castaneda

I wish you all the joy that you can wish.~William Shakespeare

Housework, if you do it right, will kill you.~Erma Bombeck


patsie
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   Posted 2/7/2009 8:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey girl, you aren't pregnant are you JUST KIDDING???? Patsie

SleepyBug
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   Posted 2/7/2009 8:44 AM (GMT -7)   
oh my gosh, patsie-BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!! lmbo!!! oh man, that would awful...i am "fixed" so to speak, but i've heard of people getting pregnant after tubal surgery but i don't think that's what is going on with me! (it better not be!!)
love and hugs
~danielle


fibromyalgia, ibs, gerd, anxiety

We either make ourselves happy or miserable. The amount of work is the same.~Carlos Castaneda

I wish you all the joy that you can wish.~William Shakespeare

Housework, if you do it right, will kill you.~Erma Bombeck

Post Edited (SleepyBug) : 2/7/2009 8:54:36 AM (GMT-7)


patsie
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   Posted 2/7/2009 10:31 AM (GMT -7)   
WELLL stranger things have happened. No, you are probably just "off" b/c of the sugar withdrawal. I think that is common but good for you!!! Patsie
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