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ivy6
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   Posted 2/11/2009 10:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been feeling horrible lately - lots of pain, terrible fatigue, brain fog - but finally mustered enough motivation late this afternoon to shower and get started on housework.

No sooner had I started than there was a bang at the door and there was a foreign man with a heavy accent spruiking new power services. I don't know what the situation is where you live, but here we have a choice of companies and representatives are always coming to our door posing as government officials, trying to convince us to change companies.

So, he came and started babbling and waffling and quoting all sorts of meaningless numbers, and I could feel my poor brain going into meltdown. I politely told him that I wasn't well and to please not tell lies or a long convoluted story about what he wanted, and to please either come straight to the point or leave and write to me instead because I wasn't able to cope with long conversations.

He wouldn't listen. He just went on and on and on and on and on, not understanding why I didn't understand, to the point that I was swaying on my feet and just about in tears of frustration.

Anyway, now my mental energy is zapped... and on something that was completely pointless... and now I have to do the housework on even less energy than I had before.

I'm not really sure what the point of this post is, except maybe to vent about how callous and unsympathetic people can be. I don't think they realise just how little it takes to rob us of all our energy and destroy our day.

Seriously, how hard would it have been to send me a letter instead, especially as I asked for one?

Down with door to door salesmen!!!!!

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julieleaps
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   Posted 2/11/2009 10:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Ivy,

Not to sound unsympathetic to your plight, but I'm wondering why you just didn't close the door if you had already politely asked him to get to the point or mail you the info? Especially when he kept on and on....

Don't let someone push you beyond where your energy can take you, girl! You just don't have the reserves!!

I am a firm believer in being polite to everyone in sales (even telemarketers - hey, they are just trying to earn a living, too!), but as soon as they are rude with me by ignoring my requests for info in the mail or whatever, then I feel I have the right to simply hang up or close the door at that point.

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Chutz
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   Posted 2/11/2009 10:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ivy!

I do understand your frustration especially when they sap your last bit of energy. It's so aggravating! You can stop them from coming to your door. Write both companies and tell them not to come! End of story. If they come again grab the phone and tell them you're calling the police to file a harassment suit. I refuse to put up with pushy people especially when they're selling thing. You ought to see me to at telemarketers if they get thru to our unlisted/unpublished phone number...lol I turn the tables and start interviewing them or tell them they are the lucky call of the day and have won a free weed of the week! I had a long conversation with some kid once because I told him he needed to go back to school and get a degree and stop using my phone to sell me things I don't want. By the time I was done he was asking how he could go about getting into a community college.

I don't have tolerance for rude people...plain and simple. Prepare a couple of firm statements and use one next time...including turning them in to the police.

You get some rest...ok?
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springfling
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   Posted 2/11/2009 10:54 PM (GMT -7)   

Ivy,

I'm with Chutzie & Julie on this. Don't let anyone push you around, especially in your own home. Next time ask him politely to leave or you will call the police. I'm sorry you had to go through it. I know how important those good days are. They are few and far between & I try to do as much as I can on those days.

I had to hang up on a telemarketer the other day because he ignored me and kept on talking. I told him nicely 2 times that I wasn't interested, but he just kept right on. I know it's there job but too much is too much. I finally just hung up. Even that little thing upset me and took a bit of my strength. Enough to slow my good day down.

Good luck next time & hope you get to feeling better!

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ivy6
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   Posted 2/11/2009 11:58 PM (GMT -7)   
You know what? I suspect they're trained to press on with their spiel when the frail and sick and elderly start to look a bit muddled, because stressed and confused people are likely to agree to ANYTHING just to get the talking to stop.

You're right, though. I should be more assertive in asking them to leave. Thanks.

I.
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vestabula
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   Posted 2/12/2009 6:31 AM (GMT -7)   

I have had this happen also.  A bunch of very nice people came knocking at the door wanting us to donate soda cans for redemption to send kids to camp.  I got the bag of cans and the next thing I knew they wanted the hubby and I to join their church and handed us a stack of info...The hubby told them he was Jewish and thanked them politely but he wasn't going to convert ....that just gave them more ammunition.  My dogs were jumping at the door and barking and that didn't even discourage them.  I went back in the house and let the hubby deal with it, but it took about fifteen minutes.

Even though we are on the 'No Call' list for telemarketers they get through because they have become crafty and can legally call if they are out of the US.  Also, folks like Banks that you do business with or companies that you have bought things from before can leagally call.  A bank trying to sell us credit card insurance was calling us three or four times a week and even on our cell phones.  After telling them a million times to stop(a call came at ten o'clock at night from the Union of South Africa)...I did a terrible thing.  I blew a rape whistle in the receiver.  I have also said to other callers that I am busy but if they give me their home phone number I will call them back around midnight.  Click!  Once, I handed the phone to my four year old grand daughter.

Telling these people you will report them doesn't seem to stop them...they are on computerized dialing and they keep on and on until you finally answer.  I know they are trying to make a living...I worked for a telemarketing company while going to college.  But when someone said No thank you, I would leave it at that!

donna

 

 


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pattipanda
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   Posted 2/12/2009 6:54 AM (GMT -7)   

OK... this is an area where I have some expertise.  I was the director of the chamber of commerce for many years.  Here's my advice:

  1. Paste a note on your door.  NO SOLICITORS!! Do not answer your door EVER unless you know the person.  You never know what their intentions are and if you don't know them, chances are they are either selling something you don't want or need or they have political intentions.
  2. If by some reason they do get to talk to you ask them for ID and if they are licensed with the city or the chamber of commerce. If they can't produce it tell them you are calling the police.  The MUST registar with the city or chamber. 
  3. Most states have a NO CALL program, headed by the Secertary of State,for telephone solicitation.  Look up your state on line.  These programs are designed to keep telemarketers from calling you.  You'll have to sign up for it but its well worth it.  The telemarketer can be fined up to $15,000.00 if they call someone registared with the program.
  4. These people DO feed on the sick and elderly.. so remember YOU ARE A TARGET!!  Don't give them a moment of your time.  DON'T allow them to zap a minute of your engery.

The most important thing to remember is if you act the least bit interested they will take advantage of you.  Close the door in their face... but Really .. JUST DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR AND IF THEY SEE YOU JUST YELL FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DOOR.  "I DON'T open THE DOOR FOR STRANGERS... GO AWAY!!!"

Remember ... this is your home and property and YOU are in control of it.. Not some ****who feeds on the sick and elderly.

Hope that helps!!!


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Marlee2
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   Posted 2/12/2009 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the info Patti. Someone must have sold our phone number, since the first of the year we have been getting four or five calls a day from telemarketers. I will get on the no call list cause it is driving me up a wall. I look at the # and don't answer the phone but it is still annoying to have to get the phone to look.
 
We don't get many door to door sales people but I don't give them a chance to say much before I say, "I'm not interested" and shut the door.
 
Even these little things zap our precious energy.
 
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SleepyBug
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   Posted 2/12/2009 8:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Ivy,

I'm so sorry this happened to you! I have to say I can totally relate, though, because I'm one of those people who will just stand there and politely listen to people as they go on and on. I have no problem hanging up on telemarketers, but when they are in my face, my politeness streak takes over and I don't know how to say "Go away!". Of course, I'm lucky now in that anytime anyone comes to the door, our husky goes NUTS and jumps up in the window and barks and barks-he's a total baby and we know it, but to a stranger, he looks mighty fierce! They usually back off as soon as they see him. Maybe you should get yourself a big scary looking dog? lol

I have to say I am a bit envious of your ability to choose your utility carrier. Here (in Michigan), we have no choice at ALL we just get stuck with whatever provider has the monopoly in our area..
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GamJill
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   Posted 2/12/2009 8:54 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Ivy-

I know what you mean about how they can zap us of our enery. I had to deal with my cable company this week. I got this guy on the phone explaining to him how we had a power surge in our area and it knocked out their modem for the computer.

He started to go on and on. I told him don't bother with the troubleshooting part because my son and his friends did all that. Then he tried to sell more packages for the cable that we get. I kept calm and told him I was not interested in them and that I was happy with what I have. I got off the phone with him and I was drained! Maybe I should give him a call today and just start rattling off how my day is going and then maybe start talking about fibromyalgia, the weather, etc., etc. Hee-Hee.

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SleepyBug
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   Posted 2/12/2009 8:57 AM (GMT -7)   
GamJill,

That's a great idea! I've often wished we could somehow get ahold of the telemarketers call back numbers so that we could call THEM during their lunch/dinner break and see how they like it!

Kind of reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer got fed up with the cable guy and told them "yeah, I'll be home for you to stop by between the hours of 9 and 5" lol
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   Posted 2/12/2009 12:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I used to get those annoying phone calls.  You knew it was a telemarketer when the first thing they would ask was "How are you?"  Well, one day I told them how I was.  I went through every ailment I had ever had and went on and on and on...for about five minutes...and then said, "Thank you for asking" and then I hung up on them.  devil    My kids were laughing hysterically! 
 
But, now I have made my life very easy.  First of all, I never answer my door unless I'm expecting someone.  I am alone most of the time and you really don't know who is on the other side of that door!  That can be quite dangerous.  You also don't know if they are telling you the truth.  So I don't open the door. 
 
I also am on the Do Not Call list AND I have Caller ID on my telephone.  This will give you the phone number of the person calling and also the name of who is calling you.  If I don't know who it is  or if it says "out of area" I will not answer my phone either.  Makes life very uncomplicated for me.
 
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SleepyBug
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   Posted 2/12/2009 12:27 PM (GMT -7)   
My brother in law once had the best response to a telemarkter I've ever heard. We were all over at my in laws for some reason or another when the phone rang. BIL picked it up, said "Hi" and listened for a few minutes and said "No, that's not me". Apparently they were selling windows or something home improvement related and asked if he was the homeowner. After he said he wasn't, they asked him if he had the power to make decisions for the homeowner and his response was "No, sorry. I'm just here stealing the T.V." lol! He said there was the longest pause and the person said "Um. Ok...Thank you for your time" and hung up. Oh man, we were all laughing soooo hard at that one!
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We either make ourselves happy or miserable. The amount of work is the same.~Carlos Castaneda

I wish you all the joy that you can wish.~William Shakespeare

Housework, if you do it right, will kill you.~Erma Bombeck


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   Posted 2/12/2009 7:09 PM (GMT -7)   
When they call and ask for my husband, I say, "this is Leroy." I have a feminine voice and they always pause and then go on to ask me whatever. Then I tell them no and hang up! Seriously, whoever knocks on your door could be dangerous! Be careful.
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