Chinese medicine approach learned at first fibro class

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Statgeek
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   Posted 2/18/2009 9:52 PM (GMT -7)   
So . . . I told ya I'd let ya know how the fibro class went today.  Today was the first one and there are 7 more.  The accupuncturist spoke for 1/2 the class and the pt taught the other half.  The accupuncturist will only speak once. The thing I remember most is the "foods for medicine" piece.  It was kind of confusing, but basically, the idea is if you need something in your body, you eat a certain kind of food.  But insted of choosing foods by the specific vitamins in the food, you go by the taste: bitter, salty, sweet, pungent (sp), sour, and bland.  He also talked about getting the nutrients into the body better: juicing or slow clooking vegies.  One lady wondered if there was a recipe to make bitter herbs like dandelion taste better and the accupuncturist called her immature and whiny!  What is interesting about that is I saw this guy in the waitng room while visiting with the ladies from the class.  They all said, accupuncture helps.  There are people here that are good at it, but not him!  They pointed right at the guy. then he came and taught the class.  No problem.  I am all for eating a wide variety of healthy food, so it can't hurt. 
 
The pt asked what we wanted from the class.  I figured if we are being ideal, then why not, so I said I wanted to cook and walk like I did before, go off meds and stop being in denial!  Tall order for 8 weeks.  shocked
 
Now I am gonna go pick some dandelion and chew on it!  jk.
Sue

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   Posted 2/18/2009 10:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I tried acupuncture for a while. It really helped my endometriosis pain and cramping but it didn't help much with the fibro. I chose this acupuncturist because she had a lot of experience with endo and that's what we were focusing on at the time. If I had the money, I would try acupuncture with someone with fibromyalgia experience.

I just wish these therapies weren't so pricey. Even with a price break, going a couple times a week gets too expensive.

Your fibro class sounds interesting, thanks for the update.

AustenFan
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   Posted 2/19/2009 9:53 AM (GMT -7)   
I feel like every post I've replied to today I've talked about health insurance, but I guess with having so many illnesses, insurance can play a large in your life.
 
I've just always wondered why most insurance companies would rather pay $200 for a bottle of medicine than $50 for a massage or accupunture.  I'm not knocking medications, but for those of us who have a hard time tolerating them and need to try something else, it is pretty cost prohibitive.
 
Keep us posted Sue.
 
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   Posted 2/19/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
That acupuncturist was a waste of money! Glad you only have to listen to such a non-feeling person once. He probably is not aware that people have different taste reactions on their tongues that are determined by DNA. Some people are more acutely aware of bitter and sour flavors than others. Others can detect the smallest amount of sweetness. This is why some people can become professional taste testers and make a living at it. Anyway, to ridicule a person like that is unforgivable. I'd have confronted him on the spot for that remark.

If fibro is indeed caused by a bacteria or virus and "catchable" (and research is leading that way!) may he be blessed with this disorder and learn pain and patience... and maybe grow up a little!
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Statgeek
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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Accupuncture is covered by my medical insurance. I will ask about massage. But I think that the person who taught had a distinct separation between theory and practice. He had apparently not learned the Chinese concepts that seem to go along with the medicine. I have read Thict nhat hahn (sp) and would like to go hear him speak and that is kind of what I expect from an accupuncturist.
Sue

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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I totally agree with Jeannie.  There was no need to embarrass that person.  Talk about immature and whiney!
 
I tried accupuncture with an accupuncturist that specialized in fibromyalgia.  I went to him for six month and he was having me come three times a week and $50 a pop!  That's $600 a month!  It didn't help with the fibro one little bit but my hearing improved!  smhair    Also, my wallet became much lighter.  shakehead
 
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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:54 AM (GMT -7)   
I tried acupuncture for about 6 or 8 weeks, twice a week at $70 a visit and my insurance would not pay. Besides the acupuncture, I worked on my trigger points, which was very painful, and it did help, but it was very temporary. He also used heat along with the acupuncture. He seemed to feel that in time, it would help, but I couldn't afford $140 a week.
Speaking of different tastes, when I am in a flare, I notice that some foods actually burn the insides of my mouth and I'm not talking about hot peppers, I mean like ketchup...does that happen to anyone else?
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   Posted 2/19/2009 12:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Interesting.. My doc. is an accupunturist and he of course recommended it. When he told me the price tag I almost went into a flare from the anxiety attack I had on the spot (jk) .. $660.00 a month for the first 2-3 months and then the price would be cut in half and so on for about 6 mons. There's no way in HE double toothpicks that I could handle that even if I WAS working. He told me I should check with my insurance provider to see if they cover it, I'm not going to even bother because I'm sure the co-pay would be more than I could handle at this time. After I find another job we'll see.
As for that guy with the big mouth.. sounds like his foot spends most of it time in there.. What a wacko!!!
Enjoy your dandilions, we're getting more snow, so dandilions are hard to come by in my neck of the woods.. :)
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MT Lady
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   Posted 2/19/2009 1:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Patti, snow storm on its way here too...tomorrow night... 6 to 8 inches more of the stuff! But I am grateful we had the thaw last week, or the week before? so I was able to clean up the yard.Now, I can start all over again!!
be well
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icuredmyfibro-Lisa
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   Posted 2/19/2009 2:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I tried acupuncture. It did not help me. The therapist asked me to try three times and so I did, but then stopped. One time when I went, I had a trigger point or something acting up on the right side of my head. She stuck a needle right in there and manipulated it around. I could tell that the needle had the capacity to help, and if I were able to have it done every day (like if I were married to an acupuncturist or if I could do it myself) then it could have been an effective healing modality for my trigger points at least -

but other than that I just couldn't go often enough and she couldn't stick enough needles in my at one time!

Speaking of different tastes, when I am in a flare, I notice that some foods actually burn the insides of my mouth and I'm not talking about hot peppers, I mean like ketchup...does that happen to anyone else? said...
I get this when I am on my period, or just before.  I can eat something that tastes wonderful and not spicy one day, but if I am on my period it just BURNs.  weird.  :)

Post Edited (icuredmyfibro-Lisa) : 2/19/2009 2:36:11 PM (GMT-7)


julieleaps
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   Posted 2/19/2009 4:10 PM (GMT -7)   
There is just no way I could try acupuncture - I just not that fond of pins and needles!

I have shooting pains where I tell me husband, "someone has that voodoo doll of me out again and they are sticking needles in it again!"

If I could just find that doll...
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   Posted 2/19/2009 10:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Julie,
You gave me a chuckle... I'm gonna start thinking that way... and start looking for that darned doll! Thanks for the laugh!
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   Posted 2/20/2009 12:38 AM (GMT -7)   
The acupuncturist was rude. Fortunately, I have never come across one who was like him. In addition, a lot of these fibro and/or pain classes seem to ignore, that we are still in pain, in the end.

If our pain could be relieved with such instruction, I do not even think we would be on this board, unless we were discussing something else of course.


Oi vey, what they put us through.

Oh, I have had lots of accupuncture treatments. I find they help me to relax. But, I found that swimming works better for both pain relief and relaxation.

Donnaeil

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