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OuchThatHurts
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   Posted 3/17/2009 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I was told that fibromyalgia could be triggered by traumatic experiences... i went through some pretty rough physical things when i was younger and 2 extremely close calls with both of my pregnancies, including seizures, high blood pressure and a uterine rupture. I was diagnosed with fibro about a month after the birth of my second child in 2005. What are your opinions on this?

Statgeek
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   Posted 3/17/2009 3:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ouch,
Just last week in the fibro class the pain management center is having me attend, they talked about this very thing. I am not sure if they have determined a cause, but there is a relationship between physical and/or emotional trauma and fibromyalgia. There is also a relationship with lowered muscle metabolism and two other things that I can't remember and fibro. Sounds like a theory anyway!
Sue

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   Posted 3/17/2009 4:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ouch,

I don't believed that I have welcomed you to the forum. It is nice to have you post. I believe that fibromyalgia can be caused from a traumatic event, emotional or physical, past or present. But I don't think that it is always caused that way. Sometimes people have other illnesses that seem to trigger fibromyalgia. It is such a mysterious disorder, it is hard to tell.

Best wishes and keep posting.

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GamJill
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   Posted 3/18/2009 5:53 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Ouch and Welcome-

Could be that is what triggered it. They have so many theories on what causes it- it will all come together someday and they should start to figure this fibro out, because so many of us have or had the same things going on- like having a history of anxiety/depression, hormone issues and the list goes on and on. We also might have a predisposition to it and what finally sets it off- who knows. It's been a year right now that I started getting my symptoms of fibro- one of their theories is a virus and I had two nasty viruses back to back that winter-  confused Go figure-

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pattipanda
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   Posted 3/18/2009 6:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ouch!!
Welcome to the forum!! Be sure to check out Fibro 101 - the second thread on the Fibromyalgia Forum.. it's jam packed with tons of info about fibro.
I've been on a zillion websites about fibro (sometimes I think I know more about fibro than my doctor does). Anyway, I have read about that theory and it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. But there are so many reasons people get fibro I just can't say for sure (I really don't think a doctor would commit to it either, since they don't really know)
Again, welcome to our fibro family, keep posting and asking questions, read the fibro 101 thread and have a painfree day!!
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lost in philly
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   Posted 3/18/2009 6:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I too have read something about having a traumatic childhood depletes your adrenaline as you are growing and that could set you up to develop blah-de-de-blah. . . In my heart I can see a hint of truth in it. But I would really like to see it in a scientific journal first.
Then there is the other side of me, who doesnt like the idea of just because X-Y-Z happened to me as a kid...well I never wore a badge that said "victim" on it. I fought back, I carried on in life. So I dont want to accept the idea that on some cellular level I was still...a victim?? And secretly, despite all the strides I made as an adult (i.e. therapy upon therapy, boundary setting, cutting off relationships) that somehow all that I left behind me has somehow infected me?? Come on!
Yes, because of x, y and z...life has been more difficult. But I dont believe that that is why I am sick.
I had pneumonia when I got fibro. The pneumonia went away and the fibro stayed. On top of being really sick I was really stressed at work and depressed that my only child was graduating and going to college. lol The child went away and the fibro stayed. :(
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Marlee2
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   Posted 3/18/2009 8:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ouch and welcome. It really is like trying to figure out which come first the chicken or the egg when it comes to fibro. I know in my case I was under extreme stress, going through peri-menopause, having horrible anxiety and panic attacks when mine started. But there are some that was living the perfect life when it hit. There are many of us with the same personality types and many of us that suffer from anxiety and depression problems but again some that do not have this in common. There are so many theories and so few answers when it comes to fibro.
 
Whatever caused it we are here together to help each other deal with it the best we can so I'm glad you found us.
 
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Sherrine
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   Posted 3/18/2009 9:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Ouch, and welcome!  I don't think there is one particular cause that triggers fibromyalgia.  I didn't go through any traumatic events but I still have fibro.  Some "link" fibro to accidents, illnesses, trauma and traumatic childhoods, etc. 
 
I'm glad that you found us and joined in.  You have come to a good place.  We have great members that love to help one another and we really do care about each other, too.  So read the Fibro 101 thread, back posts, and ask questions.  We are here to help you.  Hope to hear from you soon.
 
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sarbear
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   Posted 3/18/2009 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   
It can be one thing that triggers fibro. Many other things could trigger it too though. With my dad traumatic experiences probably triggered it some for him. He has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and Gulf War Syndrom. He was really affected in that war and he has LOTS of problems now. He had none of the issues he has now before going to that war (that I know of). I think he had some traumatic experiences as a child too.
 
 

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   Posted 3/18/2009 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I really think that we are preprogrammed for fibro then something happens to trigger it. Wether it is a virus a car accident all I know is they need to find something for it and figure it I am tired and I hurt and it stinks.... I have to wrk because I have a cash job so i don thave enough credits to get disability.
I'm sorry I am rambling on I usually try to be positive but I am in pain and sleep deprived and my teens are driving me crazy.

tyno3
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   Posted 3/19/2009 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Many folks are genetically predisposed to certain illnesses that manifest when under stress, or when the target of a trauma. This has been much the case for me. I went through about 17 years of oppression and financial pressure while trying to raise two children in the most adverse circumstances. I was able to work despite the fibro with minimum meds. Then I was struck by a truck in a crosswalk, and Preto, with the pain syndrome it became impossible to function normally. Soooo, I very much believe those of us predisposed to the gene which carries Fibro and other skeletal/muscle/ligament disorders, are far more likely to develope the pain disorder, when under excessive or life threatening stress. It probably is "burned out adrenals".
If you are in a fight/flight mode for most of your life, eventually that response is going to burn out, or we become sensitized to it. This is all theory and conjecture, on my part, but it is what i lived and Fibro is very real for me. Also, my thyroid burned out. Why would other endrocrine systems (such as adrenals) be exempt?
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pippie
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   Posted 3/23/2009 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   

HI! I"m new, I" have fibro, low thyroid, they also say these two go together,started hurting when I was 18, I had a baby at 15 raised him on my own till he was six,met my husband for years I don't think he believed in fibro, I raised his mine and our one child that makes 5 under constant stress from his ex. and other situations, love my kids, love my husband and now at 43 I have 5 grand children love them dearly , and that has really kept me going, but like all of you ,there are days I just would love to stay in bed and I can't , for one I don't give up two , I have to work, luckly my job at a small construction company, and with whom I"m friends with helps a great deal. I have a sister on disablitly partly from the fibro, my mother has it also , my sister, all diagnosed from different doctors,lived on a farm growing up , my mothers theory is that it was all of the pestisides we were around, and still eat all this food with hormones and junk it to preserve it, I would love to have one day aweek with no pain, When my father died of cancer and my father in law passed away also with lung cancer two weeks apart I got so bad I thought i had bone cancer or ms or something , that was when I was diagnosed , one doctor thought I needed counseling , I just needed to sleep , told her I could handle the pain better if I could sleep all through the night, She asked me if I had thougth about killing my self , Duh, I have a family would never do such a thing , I NEED TO SLEEP !!! The theory that we don't go into deep sleep mode and our muscles just don't get the rest they need I believe that one. !! But IF i do SLEEP for too long in one position, Boy do I pay the next day !!! OH well we just keep doing what we can!! Didn't aim to type so much!! Thanks for listening !!

Sherri


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   Posted 3/24/2009 2:28 AM (GMT -7)   
My newest rheumy (the one who said that it is a CNS pain interpretation problem) also said that she believes it can be triggered by a traumatic experience.  Mine started after my second back surgery, so I guess I believe that it could be triggered by some kind of trauma or emotional upset that makes everything go haywire.
 
Hugs - Austen
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tyno3
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   Posted 3/24/2009 2:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Dear Autenfan: You had two back surgeries and this doc is saying esentially, it's all in your head. Well, if that's the case why didn't they do brain surgery duh? I get this, oh, you've been traumatised and need extensive counselling." I am the daughter of a shrink, have been counselled to oblivion and back and worked as a counsellor for 20 years. I kinda think the pain is where I feel it. Scuse the cynicism.

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AustenFan
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   Posted 3/24/2009 3:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Tyno, I probably do need brain help, but not necessarily for fibro.  devil   I know I made it sound like she said that it was an emotional problem, but what she actually said is  that the pain signals and my brain's interpretation of them (from a physical standpoint) are all screwed up. She believes that this "mix-up" can be caused by trauma.  Don't know whether I agree or not, but it is one popular theory.
 
I've actually been to 3 rheumies, and one of them did attribute some of my back, leg, hip pain to my scoliosis and back surgeries (like you said, duh).  I really liked him, but he lives over 2 hours away, and I have too much leg pain to drive that far.
 
There are two rheumies here where I live.  Both of them have also agreed that it is fibro but didn't really take the time to discuss any other causes of pain.  The one I like "so-so" (the one I talked about above) is moving, and I am really unimpressed with the other, so I am considering just seeing if my pdoc can treat me for the fibro instead.
 
I wish it were an easier, simpler disease to treat.
 
Hugs - Austen
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tyno3
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   Posted 3/25/2009 4:04 AM (GMT -7)   
dearAustenfan: My experience over the past ten years or so are/is that your primary care physician is Front Lines, sees many different things and is open to more possibilities than many specialists. the specialists keep "current"with the latest research, w/o questioning it. That can be a tradegy. Good luck. Good news, my left arm is very slowly improving. I can use it for a few more things, w/o incredible pain. I am feeling generally better to. Probably has to do with the seven straight days of sunshine we had before yesterdays hugh snowfall. Anywho, keep on trucking.

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