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SassyIsMyKitty
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   Posted 4/11/2009 4:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been having a lot of morning stiffness and pain recently. I take Trazodone, so I am out of it all night, so I don't know if it could be the way that I am sleeping or not. But does anyone have any suggestions on how to help deal with this? It really is hard for me to do things, especially in the morning, because I am just in pain and stiff all over. And the more stiff I am, the more pain I have. The more pain I have, the more stiff I am. It is a vicious cycle. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks.
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Grailhunter
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   Posted 4/11/2009 5:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I really feel for you on this morning stiffness thing. I wake up at 4 am almost on the dot every morning and take my pain and anti anxiety meds at that time and go back to bed. Then when I get up I am still numb from the drugs and hopefully my body loosens up before the numb wears off.

Its unrealistic for many, but the best option I know, and the one I am going to put in, in a couple of more months after I get my daughter and son in law into a house, is to have a jacuzzi that you can just crawl out of bed and head straight for it.

If you can't do that, and the bathtub is not big enough to get a good soak in, and you own your home, put one in that is big enough and lay in it upping the temp on that water to as warm as you can stand it and soak for a good half hour before you do anything else.

If your in a apartment, or renting your stuck with what you have. But if your in your own house, its quite possible to find hot tubs and jacuzzi's that people will give you if you just haul them away.

I wish I could give you a better answer, but its the only two things I have found that help with morning stiffness and pain. Either pre numb yourself a couple of hours before your normal getting up, which could be real hard to do on Trazadone, or go straight from getting up to soaking in whatever you can soak in.
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K9
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   Posted 4/11/2009 5:23 PM (GMT -7)   
I've found that the best thing for me on those mornings is to get up and get moving - as much as possible. It seems counter-intuitive, but going for a brisk walk (or I have the luxury of a treadmill) really helps. It's a groaner while you're doing it, but then into a hot shower and I come out feeling much better.
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Grailhunter
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   Posted 4/11/2009 6:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Interesting point K-9 That is exactly what I used to do also, or head straight to the pool and swim laps and then get a real hot shower. Then I got real sick for months, got all depressed and was totally sedentary for two years. I finally forced myself back out of the chair and tried going back to the brisk walk thing and I had been sitting so long my back muscles wouldn't support it because I was trying to come out of a chair and straight back to what I was doing before, like 4 to 6 miles a day, and I just kept getting worse and worse until I had to stop.

That used to work really good though and I felt a ton better, except for that first half hour.

But your right, that is a good option and works as long as your body will support it without making yourself progressively worse, or if you just do what it will handle and work your way up. Good thinking.

Sorry, didn't want to interrupt your idea K-9 . Your idea you offered just sort of shocked me into a reality check on how my psychological processes have sunk over the years from really working hard to fight back to a sort of acceptance and stuck in the muck way of thinking.
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Dagger
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   Posted 4/11/2009 10:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I do yoga stretches in bed for a few minutes then some more stretches when I get out of bed and then I get into a hot shower.

jewelrylady
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   Posted 4/11/2009 11:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I use a memory foam mattress to sleep on & it has helped quite a bit. I have to have the thicker one so I don't sink onto the bed which is just too hard for me. I, also, use in the colder weather, a mattress cover that is heated. It works just like an electric blanket but you sleep on top of it. The heat helps to ease the pain & seems to keep me more limber. Not always of course, sometimes nothing helps. The one I have has dual controls & that is good because my husband hates the heat in winter. It was bought at WalMart. Hugs, Denise

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tyno3
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   Posted 4/12/2009 4:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I am a bit of an anomaly. I wake feeling rested(when I sleep) and am ok for the first half hour. Then it hits me like an avalanche. I start aching all over, cannot move without knocking something over or spilling something. Walk like a zoombie. It lasts an hour or so till my pain med and muscle relaxer kick in. Then because of my anti-depressant, after the pain stops I want to get going. Do something. I have to get everything done before 2 PM, that's when I crash, slam bang, cannot move. So i lie down. Many days i don't get up again until I have to use BR or eat, then I do minimum and go lie down again. Most days, during flares, my life is spent lying in bed from mid-afternoon until next day. Occasionally, I can come out to cook supper or work on computer, or whatever, for a bit. i cannot do social functions. no evenings out. It takes all I have to attend to the basics. 

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patsie
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   Posted 4/12/2009 6:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi,

Grailhunter you just described me to a tee. I cannot seem to get beyond the "pain point", shall we say, to persevere on. K9 I so want that back. I can honestly tell you I was speed walking 5 miles a day 2 years ago. I know the gradual thing and all but I am NOT getting it back. However, moving is a must for me in the early morning. I now incorporate the stretching very early and it is helping. I start out very easy and increase the stretch as I warm. Try that.

Patsie

SassyIsMyKitty
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   Posted 4/12/2009 6:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all for your suggestions. I am a very slow mover in the mornings usually. I get up, go to the BR, go smoke, then come back in the house and eat a small breakfast. I don't like to do much moving in the mornings because I am really not a morning person. I am more of a night person. LOL. I really appreciate all your advice. I wish I had a house and money so I could get a hot tub.

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Grailhunter
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   Posted 4/12/2009 8:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Yah, I don't know for sure what happened to me. I have had all the pain, overwhelming fatigue and need to crash and burn on most days by 2 pm unless I am working and then I force through the few more hours. But something changed. It used to be that if I felt that way, I might grab a small pick axe and dig big holes to plant bushes, huffing and puffing and barely able to dig, or grab the post hole digger I could barely lift some days and dig holes for roses. I wasn't ignoring the condition, but my mind was set to push through stuff. Whether it was to many times getting really sick that I couldn't push through it, or whether I had more ducks still standing in a row in my life, and now it feels like the ducks are laying down with me, I don't know, but something has changed. Is it depression, life circumstances messed up to much for to long. I really can't pin it down. I just know I still had motivation for a long time regardless of the issues, and most of it went.

Well, I will try to get some of those ducks standing back up and maybe that will help.
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   Posted 4/12/2009 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Tiki. When my sleep specialist put me on xyrem for my sleep problems he also suggested taking some kind of anti-inflammatory right before bed. He felt it would help prevent the stiffness/soreness caused by sleeping so deep that you don't move around much in bed. He didn't want me getting sore from sleeping in one spot for too long since that would obviously just cause another problem. His thought was to use motrin or aleve but I'm an aspirin person so I use that. I do use enteric coated aspirin though to help protect my stomach. It helps me. Lisa
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nmma
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   Posted 4/13/2009 6:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I am not a morning person either ! By nature - a true night owl - by parenthood , forced to convert.
 
2pm - wow - that gave me chills and made me smile cuz that's exactly when this sweet ride turns into a big fat punkin.........
 
I cannot say enough about the yoga ball...that thing has been a wonder for me..........even just sitting on it at the table, at the desk - my posture feels better, which we all know holding ourselves out of alignment from pain isn't good.
 
Seeing people jump on them and all that crap really put me off at first but it's like starring in an early Madonna video - you just roll around and be sexy.
 
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No jumping , crazy balancing acts - none of that - just gently rolling , stretching - sitting - bouncing - it's fun.
 
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   Posted 4/13/2009 6:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I also take trazadone and sleep soundly. I generally wake to my "Train Wreck" feeling..... I get up and take a hot shower to help loosen my muscles up and before long I am doing much better....
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SassyIsMyKitty
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   Posted 4/13/2009 7:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I see my new doc on the 29th, so I will ask him for an anti-inflammatory. I know that I need one, so I am going to ask for one. I love take hot baths, but the problem is that our bathtub has a straight back instead of one that slants. It is hard to get comfortable in a tub like that. Sometimes, I lay in bed with my heating pad on my back, and that seems to help some. I have tried doing yoga, but it only made me hurt worse.

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May your mind be clear and true.
May your smiles be many,
And may your tears be few. 
May God wrap you in His arms
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donnaeil
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   Posted 4/13/2009 11:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I take meds at bedtime and then have another set with my coffee in the morning. If I miss my night ones, I am in pain in the morning. Usually by the time discomfort sets in, I am at the pool. By going there I get plenty of relief.

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