Fatigue and sugar cravings

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boo32
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   Posted 7/5/2009 7:53 AM (GMT -7)   
hi all,
I hope eveybody is surviving whatever part of the world your in.
I went back to work on friday, it wasn't so bad. Now that i realise the extent of FM and know that i'm not actually really thick it helps. I thought i had some kind of learning difficulty as i sometimes interpret things so badly.
It has been great to tlak here as now i know the extent of fibro fog. despite a good nights sleep last night i'm jaded and almost falling asleep on the computer right now.
Do any of you crave sugar, is it just for the initail energy burst we get from it.
If i eat too much of it in one go i also get worse fatigue and fibro fog. While i know for sure this is the cause, do any of you have any tips for controlling them.
I felt bad about lying to my friend today, i was supposed to visit but she lives 35miles away i hadn't the energy to drive and i told her the car was broken down as she doesn't get FM and just fobs me off if i talk about it.
Anyway, just a little hello i suppose and seeing what you think about the Sugar monster.......
If i slept for a week i don't think i'd be anymore energetic than i am right now. rolleyes
BikeBoo, biking with my boo since 1999
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
Fibro and spinal arthritis, trying to mange it with diet, exercise and accepting my limits, as i'm allergic to EVERYTHING!
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SleepyBug
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   Posted 7/5/2009 8:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Boo,

Yes, I definitely have struggled with sugar cravings. It got so bad that I realized that I had to do something because I was basically using sugar to get through the day. (I don't take any medications for my fibro at all) I went for a couple of months sugar free and that seemed to really help. I was very fatigued for awhile and had headaches and other pains, but after a few weeks I really did feel better. I do eat sugar again now, but the really intense cravings are gone and I am no longer using it to get through the day. I don't know if going sugar free for awhile "reset" my body or something, but it really did seem to help me get it under control. Maybe you could try something like that?

Congrats on going back to work, by the way! Wow..I admire those of you who work SO much! I know I will have to go back to work when I'm done with my degree and even the thought of it makes me tired...
love and hugs
~danielle


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boo32
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   Posted 7/5/2009 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   

hiya,

thanks for the reply,

I don't take any long term meds either, i take solpadeine when it's really bad and diazepam for nerve pain when it gets too much, but very rarely. I find swimming relieves a multitude of symptoms, even if it is just short term. I found the side effects too much.

I'm going to cut out sugar for a while. I did a meal replacement programme before as i was 210 lbs(15stone), at 5'2'' you can imagine what i was like. I'm back up to 155 now so need to nip it in the butt, literally.

When i did the meal replacement it was very hard but i found it great, i don't think i could face it again tho, i think i'ii just cut out 2 meals a day for a while. even at that i still only loose about 1-2 lbs a week.

At least i'm aware the effect excess weight has on me anyway so it's an incentive to keep going.

Take care all, boo


BikeBoo, biking with my boo since 1999
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most! But it has its advantages!
Fibro, spinal arthritis and all that goes with it.


Sherrine
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   Posted 7/5/2009 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   
When you eat too much sugar, it raised your blood sugar high and then it plummets, causing the fatigue "crash".  I'm diabetic and I have to be really careful.  This can happen with non-diabetic people too, I believe. 
 
Try cutting out the refined sugar things.  A piece of fruit would be better and better for  you.  Try to stay away from chocolate.  That can actually be addicting.  The more you have, the more you crave.  The more you crave, the more you eat and the more fatigued you will be. 
 
I know what you mean about the fog.  When it rolled into my life, I thought I was getting Alzheimer's!  It was frightening.  I used to remember everything and now I am pretty pathetic!  LOL  But, keep a good sense of humor.  That will help you more than anything with the fog. 
 
Sherrine
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boo32
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   Posted 7/5/2009 1:34 PM (GMT -7)   

hi sherrine,

good to hear from you.

Is it just the sugar in processed and junk food i need avoid. I know i cany eat buckets of fruit.

Will it have the same effect as eating refined sugars. I have really high cholesterol and the doc thinks i have type 1 diabetes(non insulin, i assume). I think my diet is just rubbish tho.

My mother and grandmother both have/had it too and developed the insulin dependant one but i think if i watch myself now, weight/cholesterol, i'ii be fine.

There's a lot of conflicting advice on diet. I've lost my way a bit and have succumbed to rubbish foods i know are bad for me. I've just joined a weight loss group to help tho.

Yeah.....anyway....original question, is natural sugar ok and is pasta evil, because i can live without that. But, i'm not to have too much fat coz of the cholesterol........oh dear......you see my confusion!!!!!! Now add a large dose of fibro fog, i've been to dieticains but come back more confused. idea turn


BikeBoo, biking with my boo since 1999
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most! But it has its advantages!
Fibro, spinal arthritis and all that goes with it.


crazyoldcatlady
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   Posted 7/5/2009 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
When I am fatigued I do crave carbs. Not necessarily sweets, but things like bread, bread, and well, bread. Any form will do. Deep dish pizza, a fabulous focaccia, or plain old toast. Mmmm. Bread. (My mouth is starting to water.) Oh, I'll settle for french fries if I have to. And pierogies will hit the spot on ocassion. But there's nothing like a good ciabatta!
Donna


WhiteChocChip
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   Posted 7/5/2009 2:44 PM (GMT -7)   
SUGAR MONSTER ... run awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol here's my solution for sugar cravings
cold chopped strawberries in a honey-orange juice sauce
hot chopped apples in a honey-cinnamon sauce

I try to not fight any cravings ... it just makes them worse! Instead I tell myself "Fine if you really want that, we'll have it .... but it's gonna be on my terms." Then I make as many healthy substitutions as possible. After all, a Burrito craving can just as easily be satisfied by one whole wheat low-fat burrito as 3 or 4 Taco Bell burritos.

donnaeil
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   Posted 7/5/2009 3:26 PM (GMT -7)   
The one ingredient that can make you a sugar addict is not sugar itself but high fructose corn syrup. My daughter and I banned HFC from our diets earlier this year. We could not believe the reduction in our appetites. In addition, we felt more satisfied and full when we ate real sugar during the day.

Last week I made the mistake of ordering Mac Donald's new iced tea. I had never had one before. the drink was syrupy sweet (that did not stop me from drinking it). For the rest of the day I was starving and craving a high sugar desert. I would have attacked a quart of ice cream if I had it in the house. It was so bad that I did not feel full, no matter what I ate.

I forced myself to have vegetable curry soup and only one small piece of candy that contained real sugar. That was hard. Finally, I just went to bed hungry.

According to my daughter it will take a couple of days for those hunger feelings to pass by. All, I know is HFC will stay out of my diet.

Donnaeil

Sherrine
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   Posted 7/5/2009 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Type I diabetes occurs in children and young adults.  You do not produce insulin or produce very little insulin.  Are you on medication or insulin shots?
 
It you are diabetic, it is extremely important to take care of it.  High blood sugar can damage your heart, blood vessels, kidneys, eyes, and diabetes is a leading cause of amputations.  It is nothing to fool around with.
 
Carbohydrates in junk food, along with the refined sugar, will raise  your blood sugar levels.  Insulin helps regulate these levels but you aren't producing what you need.  Sugar raises the blood sugar quickly and it will plummet quickly, too.  Carbohydrates will raise your blood sugar and keep it raised for longer periods of time.  You need to really control the carbs.  Some diabetics have eat nearly no carbs.  I eat some but I still watch what I eat.  I don't sit in front of the TV with a bag of chips in my lap anymore....darn!  I'm choosy with what carbs I will eat.  **And, no, you cannot eat buckets of fruit with diabetes!  For example, 10 grapes is a serving of fruit for a diabetic and it will raise your blood sugar quickly.
 
Losing weight helps with diabetes, too.  I am on pills but don't have to take much.  I lost 85 pounds and it really helped the diabetes.  But, I still have to take medication.  If your doctor said you are Type I, you should be on medication...at least this is my understanding.  Type II, which is adult onset diabetes and that is the type I have, usually comes on later in life and we need medication, too.  Some with Type II are on insulin, too. 
 
If you are "borderline" diabetic, losing weight and really watching what you eat may keep you from needing meds...for the time being.  You need a blood monitor and monitor your blood sugar before meals, after meals, and also fasting.  This will let you know if you do have control over this.  It doesn't sound like you do.
 
I suggest that you check out our diabetes forum.  It is very good and you can get great help and support there.  But, the bottom line is, if your blood sugars are out of whack, you will feel very tired.  Please take care of this.
 
Here are a couple of sites to help you out.
 
 
 
Sherrine
 
 


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Post Edited (Sherrine) : 7/5/2009 3:57:16 PM (GMT-6)


boo32
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   Posted 7/6/2009 3:50 AM (GMT -7)   
hi
thanks for the advice. Sherrine, i'm just borderline diabetic and have seen an endocrinologist as i have infertility issuea as well. It seems all my hormones are out of whack.
It's the family history that has me at a high risk also.
I'm making changes as we speak ans have embarked on a light detox for the week, water, fresh food etc. I don't drink alcohol and quit smoking 10 years ago.
I'm just gonna hang in there with the cravings as i know they'll pass. Thanks again for the links and info, this board and it's members are a godsend.
Take care all, boo. :-)
BikeBoo, biking with my boo since 1999
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most! But it has its advantages!
Fibro, spinal arthritis and all that goes with it.


kathydownunder
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   Posted 7/6/2009 8:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello Boo,
I can relate to the sugar cravings the way I found to help me with it was a reward type system, say I go for a week with out the sugar fix then I will have something small. This has worked for me and I have found by doing this I crave the sugar less, also I need the carbs if I eat them I am fine but if I don't I get sick. This is when I feel like eating that is for me just eating a single meal is work at times I just do not get hungry at present. Why this is we have no IDEA anyway best of luck with it.
Kathy

Carnissa
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   Posted 7/6/2009 5:29 PM (GMT -7)   
i find if i have a piece of fruit like pineapple that is sweet helps quite a bit.... i found that by taking aspertame out of my diet has helped alot although that first week was awful with headaches from withdrawl but is it worth it..

i went back to raw sugar and stevia ... and found things alot better with the fog and fatigue
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Littleneck
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   Posted 7/7/2009 5:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I have always had a sweet tooth but it is outrageous since the fibro. I also use raw sugar and stevia as well as organic honey.
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