Nanamonster and anyone interested - re. herbs

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manyembers
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   Posted 8/30/2009 5:06 PM (GMT -7)   
 
  Hi NM and others too,
 
  I thought I'd reply with a new thread as the other was getting very long.  The herb booklets sound good.  I tend to think that fibromyalgia, being it is a 'syndrome' is a compliation of different organs and body functions that are out of whack and that if the different imbalances can be addressed, rather than just treating the symptoms, there can be significant progress made.  I think herbs are promising in this respect.
 
  I used to get achey when it rained, or if I'd be out walking in the cold, I might be in way more pain/fatigue etc. for a like a week.  Since starting the liver herbs, I'm not usually effected by raining weather anymore, so that's a plus.  I've been focusing on liver cleansing with chinese bitters from the sensible health web-site and diet for over a year now and that has done a lot to just give me a good baseline or foundation for health as well. 
 
  Re. Parkinson's, the guy at the local health store mentioned one time that taking large amounts of COQ10 is effective for stopping the shakes that people with it have.  So another natural remedy there.
 
  Also, one of the members here mentioned D-ribose.   Sorry, I can't remember who posted about that?  I looked it up online and apparently there were tests done and people with fibro. who took it and chronic fatigue, improved their energy levels by around 45%, though apparently it's one of those things that works for some but not for other folks.  But it sounds promising for some anyway!
 
  Have a great rest of the week-end,
 
  embers
 
 

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   Posted 8/30/2009 5:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Embers,
    Here's a good one, too. Do you or anyone you know get poison ivy?. My grandaughter has been chronic since little.
This year she went to her dad's house and came back with some spots. I immediately got out the black walnut and
yucca. Two days later she was literally from the top of her head to her feet. I got ivy dry and wrapped her with gauze.
It still wasn't going away like it usually did. I  talked to one of the girls I work with and she gave me a bottle of
Poison Ivy Pills by Rhus Tox and it was gone in a week. I figured it must've gotten in her blood system somehow.
the Poison Ivy Pills are made from the plant and will help you build up an immunity to it.
       NM

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   Posted 8/31/2009 11:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Herbs are fascinating. One of my sisters studied herbalism for awhile. She also takes COQ10 as well.

Sherrine
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   Posted 9/1/2009 9:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Please check with your doctor and your pharmacist before starting anything new.  Many herbs interact with medication, over-the-counter medications, and vitamins you are taking and you could be in trouble.  Just because someone in a health food store recommends it, doesn't necessarily mean they know what they are talking about.   You do need to be careful of St. John's Wort.
  
 
Here are two links to sites that have good info about herbs.  Please read.  We want to keep you as healthy as possible. 
 
 
 
Sherrine
 

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Nana Monster
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   Posted 9/3/2009 3:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Here's an interesting point with the Co Q-10. It's in EVERY single cell in your body. There are alot of meds out
there that deplete this in your body. Without it you are more succeptable to heart disease or stroke. As you
get older the levels go down even more.
 
Does anyone out there know of an herbal equivelent to flexoril? When my pain levels go down more I'm
going to try using White Willow Bark for pain. It was used in the original aspirin tablets.

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   Posted 9/6/2009 6:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Here's a quick update on the neat herbals I've been taking. I went to the State Fair again yesterday. I made it
6 1/2 hours of walking around with 3 kids (4,7 and 13). They had alot of fun especially since Nana could keep
up better. Usually, I'm slowing down after 1 or 2 hours and crawling by 3. I'm suprised by how much more
energy I seem to have. I started backing it up with B complex and it's made a world of difference. I made it up
the ramp again to the upper parking lot. I took an extra dose of the super cissus to help relieve any forthcoming
pain and it worked. It's been week 2 without otc painkillers, let's see how long I last this time. Only 2 doses in a month.
NM

Nana Monster
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   Posted 9/11/2009 1:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone used B Complex for energy? I started on it about a week ago and have already noticed
a significant difference.

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   Posted 9/11/2009 11:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I used B Complex for quite a while for menopausal symptoms (B6) and nerve health but after I developed a chronic problem with diarrhea I stopped all of my supplements. Adding them back one at a time helped me identify the B complex as one of the suspects so that's off my list for a while. I've even had to omit my malic acid/magnesium complex from my lineup. (sigh!)

Something is kattywampus in my system and right now simpler is better for me.
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Mrsppmrxky
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   Posted 9/12/2009 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie I can't remember are you having problems with Corn? I know that inostitol is made from corn. I think that is the B8

manyembers
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   Posted 9/20/2009 3:26 PM (GMT -7)   

 

  Hello NM,

  B vitamins make a noticeable difference for me also.  B50's and sublignual B12.

  I just wanted to pop by and share about my experience with bio-sil.  Actually I didn't buy bio-sil, but another product which is the same thing - i.e. silica - but supposedly even better absorbed.  It's called Silicea.  I have been taking it for one month.  I have noticed that my knee and elbow joints have been better.  At times - in the past -  knees would pop out of place and very painful.  That tended to happen when I was more run down, but though I've had a couple weeks of feeling run down, no pops and also it seems I have greater flexibility/elasticity in those areas.   My guess would be this is the silica at work since improved elasticity is on the list of what it is supposed to do if I'm not mistaken.

  I am still waiting to try the super cissus.  I finally did some reading on it.  I just want to check with my pharmacist because they give a long list of conditions that if people have those conditions they say not to take it.  It is hard sometimes though to know if the health product lists certain conditions to cover their butts re. the government drug regulators or if you need to take the warnings literally if you know what I mean.  So will call the pharmacist just to doublecheck things.  I know it says it is supposed to lower cortisol for example, but if you already have lower cortisol levels, that isn't good.  I am taking an herb that is supposed to lower things and so asked my doctor because I already am lower on some thigns than normal.  He said it wouldn't lower them - it only lowers them if they need it.  So I am hoping that is the same with the super cissus.  Guess i'll know soon.  I also have the company number to call.  I really hope it works that I can take it - I think it might be a good fit for me, and I've since read more testimonies of weight lifters and people with injuries who have had amazing results with it.

  Probably it works well for fibro. because it enhances recovery from strenuous activity a whole lot, besides all the other things it is supposed to do.

  Hope you're still doing well!

  Take care, Embers

 

 


beanley
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   Posted 9/21/2009 12:09 PM (GMT -7)   
as sherrine said, pls be very careful w/ herbs or "natural" products. some are downright dangerous, some from china can be counterfeit and toxic, and some are just a worthless way to give your money to some con man.
fibro, migraines, ibs


manyembers
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   Posted 9/21/2009 2:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Beanley,

You betcha. I do my research for sure. And avoid anything from China these days. Thanks for your concern. :0)  And I've been blessed with a great doctor who has no problem with my running my herbal products by him for safety and opinion checking.

embers

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   Posted 9/22/2009 4:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Embers,
    Good to hear from you again. I'm working on month 6 with my "trio". I've taken 3 doses of regular painkillers
in the last 2 months. I'm glad the Cissus has it built-in. I still have a pocket of blood in the knee that they
did surgery on and when the kneecap tries to move it swells up on me a bit. I can do a 12 hour day now and
push mow for about 3-4 hours straight. Range of motion is much better and I can do my job a lot better.
A co-worker came up to me a few days ago and asked me if I had changed meds, I told her that I went off
dr drugs and went herbal. She said I wasn't as nasty. I guess getting sleep helps out.
   I've been looking for an herbal equivelent to flexoril but so far haven't found it.  Thanks for the advice on
the Silicea. I'm glad you're interested in this too.
     My grandaughter has caught poison ivy again. So far it's on her face and hasn't gone internal like the
last bout. I usually dose her with black walnut and yucca if needed but it didn't work as she must've got
it right in her bloodstream. A girl in my department gave me Poison Ivy Pills by Rhus Tox. They worked so
well it was almost gone in a week. She was literally head to toe covered. I found you can order them
on-line.
              NM

manyembers
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   Posted 9/24/2009 2:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey NM,

Nice to hear from you too! I'm glad you're still doing so well. I hope your kneecap will recover even more for you too.

I've tried contacting Vitaglo (spelling) by e-mail and phone as well as USP labs who makes super cissus. First couldn't answer my questions answered and I felt like I was just bugging whoever I spoke to on the phone - the guy hung up on me without even saying good-bye! The pharmacist had a bit of info. about the herb in super cissus but not a whole lot. So at this point, being nobody is taking time to answer my questions I don't think I'll be trying it. I needed to make sure it would be okay for me to try. Although I am considering just trying the regular cissus from another company if I can find someone who has decent customer service so I can get my questions answered. I'm glad it is working for you. I was really hoping to try it, but at this point, I guess it won't be any time soon. I might still just make a doc's app't. and see if he knows anything about it. I was impressed, while at the pharmacists to see all the conditions it is actually used for - everything from dyspepsia to osteoporosis.

Anyway, I just wanted to say 'hi' again and send a few hurrahs your way as you continue to forge ahead!

Take care, embers
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