Fibros and Flu Shots

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Chutz
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   Posted 10/28/2009 6:06 PM (GMT -7)   
OK guys...here's the heads up. OK, maybe it's my whine of the day but either way I will share what I've just learned about getting flu shots this year. Whether or not you are someone who chooses to get them it's wise to know the facts.

Had my monthly doctor visit, and yes we actually visit about my kids, etc. He knows and treats us all. But it was time for my quarterly blood work and flu shot time. I always get the regular flu and since I'm in the category of 'immune suppressed' I qualified for the first round of H1N1 flu shots. I was only happy to get mine because last winter I was in and out of the ER with 'some virus' for several months. This year there is no way I want to be sick.

So after doc bailed out of the room, since they don't often do the "dirty work" with needles and poky things, his nurse who is an absolute angel, comes in with her arms loaded with those poky things and tubes for blood. No problem...done it all before many times. So, left arm for blood draw...great vein there.., left shoulder for one flu shot and right shoulder for the other. Didn't take long and after she was done and I was putting on my coat she says...Oh, by the way...that H1N1 shot is going to be pretty sore. Seems it's different than the regular one that she had injected in the left shoulder. Now THAT'S what scared me. When they tell you it IS going to hurt then it's time to worry. smhair But the payoff is, I told her, is that there is no way I'll be able to cook and clean for, oh let's say, at least 3-4 days and maybe even a week or two. smilewinkgrin I did ask if doc would write that out on a prescription pad for me but he was busy with another patient at the time so off I went.

I didn't think about it until I was getting out of my truck at home, reached for some library books I had picked up and YEEEOOUUCCHHHHH! OK, THAT'S sore! shocked I'm sure I can milk this...I mean explain to my hubby how ummm, how I'm sure it will be hard to cook and he will have to help with the vacuuming and maybe even scrub the bathrooms while my arm is in a sling. Oh, didn't I tell you about the sling? just kidding!... tongue

Hubby is going to reheat supper in the microwave tonight...leftover stew and biscuits. But I'm sure by tomorrow it will be down to a small ache. And from there I will be back to my achy fibro self.

BUT...here's the main reason for posting this. Yes, the flu shot is going to make your arm ache. And having fibro will likely make it hurt worse. But unless you have specific reasons for not getting yours when they have enough for your age group, please go get yours!

The problem with this particular strain of influenza is not about pigs or eating sausage...it's about a new strain of the flu virus that is not remotely related to any other flu we've seen before. THAT is what is causing the worry. The flu viruses that come through each year are somewhat related to the ones that came before. Because of this relationship our bodies are mostly protected from getting the flu. But as the strains of flu change over time there is always something just a bit different each year which is why we need to get new shots each year. Because the H1N1 virus is not at all related to any strain of influenza we've seen before, none of us have any immunity to it.

Here's what I found from our state Health Department that was issues by the CDC:
www.doh.wa.gov/h1n1/h1n1_vaccine.htm#3Who_

Although there will eventually be enough vaccine for everyone, these initial supplies will be limited at first. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that people most likely to become ill and those most threatened by H1N1 be the first to get vaccine. They include:

Pregnant women.
People who live with or care for children younger than six months of age.
Children 6 months – 18 years of age
Young adults age 19-24 years old
Health care and emergency medical services workers.
Everyone from six months to 24 years of age. Those from 25 to 64 years of age with health conditions that put them at higher risk of complications from the flu. (I qualified because I am insulin dependent diabetic)


Please take care of you health and your family's too. We do care about you!
Chutz
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AustenFan
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   Posted 10/28/2009 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm glad you were able to get the vaccine. My daughter and I both have asthma, but there is no vaccine anywhere to be found where we live. We are trying to be patient, but when (or if) it does arrive here, we will probably get it.

We both got the seasonal vaccine last month, and right now, we are just trying to practice good hygiene and hope for the best.

Hugs - Austen
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AkinaChan
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   Posted 10/29/2009 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow, sounds like that's a bit tender. I'm planning to get the regular flu shot (once i've been over the respiratory infection for 2 weeks according to my doctor that's how long I have to wait) but I'm not sure about the H1N1. But where I live there's apparently none of either vaccine right now.
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Chutz
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   Posted 10/29/2009 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
It's not as bad today. If I tough my arm where I got the shot its still sore but doing most daily chores is not a problem.

I feel, for me, it's very worth getting both of them. Because of the many immune system disorders I have if I get true influenze I'll be in the hospital for sure. It doesn't take much for me to go down.

Chutz
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Nana Monster
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   Posted 10/29/2009 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Why is it drs only ask if you are allergic to eggs? I eat eggs all the time but the chemicals in these
shots are what floored my sorry butt. I missed a weeks work and could barely walk for 2 days.
They never ask this and I sure will not ever get one again. Either the reg flu or the piggy version.

myjoy
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   Posted 10/29/2009 2:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Too late for me, I already have been suffering with the H1N1 all this week. My doctor said tylenol, fluids and rest. My 3 day fever finally broke today. I'm worn out and weak. And my fibro has kicked in real good. I've done nothing but lie around for 4 days. The chills and body aches have been horrible. The cough is awful too.

As far as I've heard, there's not enough vaccine to go around...so we can't count on getting it in time. Do what you can to stay away from folks who may have it. I have no idea, though, where I picked it up from. How fortunate for some areas to be able to get the shot. We have many schools that are closed this week here in MI, due to H1N1. My daughter is a teacher in WI, many children have been out of her class for 6 days or more with this. I wonder how they decide which areas get the shots first?

Anyway....all the best to everyone this flu season....I hope most, if not all, of you can get the shot.
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vestabula
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   Posted 10/29/2009 2:47 PM (GMT -7)   

I got very sick after two flu shots and won't have anymore either.  I am not 'allergic' to eggs, but very 'sensative'.  I don't digest them well and feel sick to my stomach after eating them.  'They' claim that is why I reacted so severely to the vaccine (vertigo and sweating profusely for two days) but I don't know.  I wonder if I should give it a try again, but I can't seem to shake that fear that I am going to get that ill again after getting it.  It doesn't matter at the moment anyway as we don't have any here yet and by the time we do...the season may be over!

Donna


fibro, menieres disease, RLS, anxiety disorder, disc compression, scoliosis, spinal stenosis TMJ  Meds: Lexapro and valium


Chutz
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   Posted 10/29/2009 2:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi nana,

The reason they ask about the eggs is that's how the vaccine is made. Vaccine is made from special sterilized fertile chicken eggs. The virus is injected into the white of the egg where it's in a perfect environment to grow. After the growing period is over they recover the egg white (amniotic area of the egg) and finish sterilizing and processing the virus/serum. It's a long process taking about 6 months. There is newer technology that has been developed by many companies where the virus is grown in laboratories. These take about 2 months to produce the serum. Why aren't we doing it that way? From what I have read the government has dropped the ball on investing in newer technologies. They're back in the early 20th century. Just reporting the facts, not being political.

There seems to be a correlation between the amount of your sensitivity to eggs and the severity of the reaction. Hope this helps on why they are concerned if you are allergic to eggs.

Chutz
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myjoy
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   Posted 10/29/2009 2:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Just took my temp - it's back up again. :( This flu is no fun for sure.
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fall
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   Posted 10/29/2009 3:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been told by allergy Dr. since 2rd grade that I showed up being allergist to eggs. I do eat scrambled eggs but make sure they are thoroughly cooked, because several yrs. ago I used to try & eat soft runny eggs & dipped toast in them well my throat got very, very itches, had problems swollening. So when I have gone to any other Dr. & they say something about flu shots, I say what happens & they say don't even try it!!

I guess I wouldn't be so scared about trying it but am also allergist to Shrimp & I almost ended up in emergency with that, I was really scared....

So for any of you that are allergist to eggs be careful, I know the flu is terrible--when I have had it the body aches so, so bad can't hardly move, the cough, sore throat, Headaches, fever are terrible But having your THROAT ALMOST CLOSE UP ON YOU & grasping for Breath is HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!

Take care, Fall

Nana Monster
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   Posted 10/29/2009 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Chutz,
    I think between the mercury, formaldahyde, detergents and other things they put in the shots is why
I got so violently sick. I react to many chemicals now and can't use anything perfumed. I tried Blue Emu
for my arthritis...it worked well but I got a sinus infection from the menthol. Can't get around cigarettes
without losing my voice. The wonder of modern man's inventions.
         
Vesta,
     I know a couple of people who reacted like us to the shots...one ended up in the hospital. I know
they say they help some people but there are others like us who end up a lot worse.
   My son's family have the flu. First his wife got it, then my 5 year old grandaughter, then my son,
now my 13 year old grandaughter has it. He is feeling better today but Chui is now coming down with
it. Luckily she didn't miss the Halloween Concert last night at her school.
    I'm glad NY has recinded the mandatory shots at work even though I have in my file that I'm severely
allergic to them. One small victory for us health care workers. I've noticed that we don't have anyone
down with it yet just a couple of workers. No residents.
         NM

SadSickTired
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   Posted 10/30/2009 1:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had the flu for 5 days, which is not funny.  But since I try to find humor in everything, here it is:  I called the doctor's office and made an appointment when I first got sick. The appt was for the very next day and I was going to take the opportunity to discuss a referral to a pain management doctor.  So I was feeling ill but hopeful.  Then-here comes the funny part- the doctor's office called the next morning to cancel my appointment because the doctor was sick and had a fever too!! turn     So I never got an actual dx, but the nurse said that even if it is H1N1 (and its going around where I live) they aren't giving scripts.  Just push fluids, plenty of rest and stay away from people at least until the fever is gone for 24 hours.  This is my first illness since getting my dx of fibro and it sucks!  I got sick and more sore!  But I think maybe I am on the downslide so I am hopeful that its almost over!  All in all- if you get it, it sucks but it does give you a reason to rest!  I am really trying to find the bright side!!!
Thanks!
   Trish
 
Dx'd with Fibromyalgia, High Blood Pressure, TMJ & Migraines
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myjoy
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   Posted 10/30/2009 4:21 AM (GMT -7)   
So sorry you have been suffering with this flu as well, SST. I've been resting too. Guess we missed the boat on the flu shot!
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AustenFan
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   Posted 10/31/2009 6:53 AM (GMT -7)   
I was able to make an appointment today with my local health department for an H1N1 vaccine week after next. They supposedly have enough to go around and are taking appointments instead of making people wait in long lines (makes sense to me).

I'm not fond of vaccines, but I'm even less fond of the icky diseases they prevent, so I guess I'd rather take my chances with the vaccine. The last time I had the flu was many years ago when I was in college. I was young and healthy then, and I still remember how horrible it was. I don't want to repeat it. :(

Here is a link to a Q&A page on the vaccine from the Mayo Clinic. I consider them pretty reputable (more reputable than the media where we are inundated with vaccine hype, lol).

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/swine-flu-vaccine/MY00816

SST, I hope you are feeling better soon. Any time we get sick on top of the fibro, it just absolutely stinks!

Hugs - Austen
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