Healthy Habits for week 1~ 14 June '10

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Chutz
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   Posted 6/13/2010 10:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all and welcome to our newest adventure in the fibro forum. So many of us have problems with weight and/or healthy eating so a few of us thought it would be a great idea to help each other with support and encouragement to eat better and hopefully lose extra pounds if needed. I know there are people on the forum who also have problems gaining weight...and yes, it's hard for those who have too much to fathom those who can't gain...but the problem is equally difficult no matter what side of the dilemma you are on.

For the most part though, this thread will be where we can post daily about what is keeping us from eating the right foods and why we possibly make bad choices at times. By learning and sharing hopefully we can all be more healthy in spite of fibro. So what does this have to do with fibro anyway? Imagine carrying around a 20# sack of potatoes for a few hours. We would all be in so much pain we'd be going crazy. Once you put the sack down it's much easier to move and often there's less pain involved. Now imagine that 20# is excess weight and it's there 24/7/365! I'm not saying that fibro pain is from being over weight. What I am saying is that it most likely makes the pain worse and over all makes us feel worse.

This is NOT a diet! This is healthy eating and living. This is a change in habits and life style. Let's face it...those of us who are professional dieters know that diets only work for a short time, then the weight eventually comes back and often more. Study the research out there...it tells us the same thing, what we already know from experience. No one has to tell their weight, loss or what they are eating unless you want to. Everything is on the honor system. We are here to hold each other up and offer ideas, suggestions, articles and whatever else we can find that will aid our quest for a more healthful life. There is no competition, no prize for losing the most the fastest or running a marathon...lol...ya, right!... tongue The only challenge is with yourself and that's often the hardest of all.

I know from talking to some other members that discouragement can be overwhelming. The thoughts of "I've done this before and wasn't successful, why should now be any different?" Well, maybe it won't be but how will we know unless we try. The worst case is we hang out with some awesome people and share common ideas, thoughts and recipes!

Each week someone can suggest a general topic that we can focus on, if you like. I'll offer one for the first week and then others are welcome to either post one on a Monday or email to me and I'll be happy to post it. Since this is new we'll try this style and see how it goes. I'm sure this part of the fibro forum will take on it's own life and style over time but let's get it off the ground and moving!

This week let's talk about when our worst time of day is for not eating healthy. That's a polite way of saying...when is it you pig out on high calorie or junk food, or many just too much of anything. For me it's night time, just before bed. It's that soothing time of day when hubby is often asleep ahead of me and I'm quite alone. But food is great company and makes my tummy feel good when I go to bed. I know food is not company but I've used it that way for more years than I care to admit. Does anyone else have this problem? Eating late evening or late at night? Any suggestions on how to stop those extra calories from piling on? I don't want to totally give up a small snack at bedtime. I take a lot of medicine then and it does help my tummy tolerate them. But it's no excuse for pigging out. I'm thinking of a glass of milk at bed time...nothing else! It's hard but I know I can do it since there are others out there who I'm sure have that problem too. This is very hard for me to actually put all of this in writing and admit where I'm messing up. It has me in tears but I want and need so badly to get some pounds off that I've put on over the past year or so that I'll bare my soul if need be. And in doing so I hope it helps others who struggle also.

Welcome to anyone and everyone who wants to join us!
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Sheila1366
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   Posted 6/14/2010 2:12 AM (GMT -7)   
I tend to binge at night when no one is around. My husband is a firefighter and works 24 hour shifts so when he is gone I eat everything. When he is home I do better cause I don't want him to see me pig out. I am a sneak eater. But you know the thing is I don't think it is a secret, I mean just look at me, I don't look like I am missing a meal. I think he is in on my big secret.
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   Posted 6/14/2010 4:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Late afternoon, between lunch and dinner. I get sooooo hungry waiting for hubby to get home for dinner that I eat a large snack and then dinner too (essentially two dinners).

Today, I'm going to try to make my afternoon snack healthier, and I'm going to try to listen to my body and stop before I'm full, giving my tummy time to signal my brain. Small snack + small dinner is definitely healthier than large snack + large dinner.

My suggestion, Chutz, (and this is definitely the blind advising the blind) is not to give up your snack, but maybe to change how much/ what you eat. I think if you give it up you will definitely feel deprived, but if you change it to a healthier snack, you may still feel satisfied.

As an aside, have any of you read the Geneen Roth articles in "Good Housekeeping?" She also has several books out. Her way of looking at food (and those of us who eat it) is really eye-opening.

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   Posted 6/14/2010 6:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you chutz for getting us started! I am also bad in the late afternoon all the way til bedtime! I definitely use food to comfort me and have a weakness for something sweet after dinner. This week I am going to have a yogurt or fruit pop instead of junk.

I love fruit and the week before my surgery I was being good and had cut up a bunch and had it all ready to eat in the fridge. I found myself eating that instead of junk because it was easy. I think it helps me make better choices when I prepare things ahead of time.

Ok, time to make a list for my dh to go to the store again - he can't wait for my foot to get better!
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   Posted 6/14/2010 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
I have the same problem of snacks at night.  Popcorn just seems to call my name.  I know it's a habit but I really do seem to crave it.  Occasionally I change over to a couple of cookies and a glass of milk. 
 
I have decided since garden is beginning to come in, to  perhaps start having a small cucumber sliced and dipped in fat free ranch dressing.  Also we have cherry tomatoes getting ripe and I love them dipped the same way.
 
It sounds easy this morning but sticking with the plan is my hardest thing.
 
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WhiteChocChip
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   Posted 6/14/2010 6:58 AM (GMT -7)   
I recommend the book French Women Don't Get Fat. It talks about the different ways European women traditionally view food.

I tend to eat unhealthy food when I am too tired to cook. I am thinking about researching something I can prepare all at once and freeze in small portions, but it is hard to find recipes that will freeze and thaw well.

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   Posted 6/14/2010 7:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I tend to crave something sweet mid-afternoon. Lately I have been trying to make
healthier choices by having a small bowl of rice krispies and slicing strawberries on top.
It seems to be doing the trick. I always use skim milk.

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   Posted 6/14/2010 8:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Austen- I had never heard of Geneen Roth before and I just googled her and read some of her articles. All I can say is Wow.

Don't we all say if I just lost (insert #) pounds, I would be so much happier - and then we beat ourselves up when we don't!

These articles made me think of a friend of mine - I call her superwoman - she is amazing. She works, runs, works out, keeps a beautiful home and looks better than 99.9% of women her age (she does not have fibro). But, she hates the way she looks. I see a fit, beautiful person and she see's her "huge" thighs.

I saw one article that said do you feel selfish if you take care of yourself first? This one really hits home for us, because of fibro a lot of times we are forced to think of ourselves first - does it make us feel guilty and we then turn to food to try to get rid of the guilt?

Thanks again, I am going to look at some of her books now on amazon!
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nana2be
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   Posted 6/14/2010 9:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey all! I tend to find late afternoon til bedtime I want sweets or carbs. The later in the day it gets the more tired I feel. So, I started laying down in the afternoon for 45 minutes or so. The extra rest helps me not want to rip into a bag of chips or eat chocolate until I'm sick. I know everyone can't get a rest in during the day, but try to find a few minutes of me time without guilt. Plus with all the fresh fruits and veggies I find myself grabbing pre-made bags I fix in the fridge. I still have to get moving though. That's the hardest for me right now.
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   Posted 6/14/2010 9:33 AM (GMT -7)   
My worst time is after dinner.  I'm by myself so I record movies and watch a movie and snack.  I do get the 100 calorie popcorn and that helps BUT I'm also diabetic and the carbs aren't good to have.  Sometimes I will make an herb dip that is just 1/3 less fat sour cream and herbs and then I'll dip celery and cucumbers in it.  That tastes good.  Dean's also makes a light French onion dip that is good, too.  I love dips and these are low cal.  Sometimes I use salsa as the dip and use celery, cucumbers, or green peppers as the dippers.  No potato chips or Tostitoes!  
 
Another good snack is Jello.  (I use the sugar-free ones.)  I put a small spritz of Reddi Whip on top and that satisfies me, too.
 
I know I'm talking about food but I found out after years of dieting that I can't deprive myself.  If I do, I'll end up binge eating.  So a small snack that has flavor and crunch works for me.  I just have to make a small portion and not sit down with the entire container!   shakehead  
 
Sheila, I was a "closet" eater, too, at one time.  I used to hide ice cream bars deep in the freezer we had in the garage.  When I had an opportunity, I'd grab a couple and run in the bedroom, lock the door, and whoof them down.  I didn't even enjoy them!  The bad thing besides the weight I gained was that it gave me a low self-esteem.  Sure, no one knew I was doing this, but I did!  I couldn't escape "me" so I did manage to knock that off.  I feel so much better now.
 
A great tip is....become an avid label reader!  Know what you are eating.  I read labels and decide if the food is worth it.  This does help me.
 
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   Posted 6/14/2010 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,
Just a tip I learned when recovering from an eating disorder.  When you eat something like carrots or fruit for a snack, you will not get hungry as soon after if you eat a healthy fat and protein with it.  I eat a few raw nuts.  It has something to do with blood sugar rising and dropping quickly. 
 
My two hardest times are while driving home from work and around 3:00.  This helps:  fage with fruit (very high in protein) or a small nut and craisin snack at 3:00.  For the drive home, I keep chopped veggies in the fridge at work and munch on them while driving home.  I used to stop and get cheetos (spending money and adding calories).  The veggies are great.
 
Good luck everyone. 
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   Posted 6/14/2010 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I never realized that so many others had the same evening/after dinner snack issues as I do. It's funny...just like fibro we feel so alone and like no one else can possibly have the problems that I do!...lol And then I came to Healing Well and found that most everyone knows how I feel with fibro and it seems that the same is true for eating habits. It's interesting how we feel so deserted yet there are people all around us feeling the same way.

One thing I've noticed is that if we eat just a bit later...like 7PM instead of 6:30... that I don't feel as strong a need to snack as if we eat on an earlier schedule. Just that half an hour really helps for some reason.

I love everyone ideas and suggestions. I did go to Costco today and got a lot of the things I know work for me..lots of fresh fruit, veggies and some lunch items. But at night I think I'll go with a glass of milk, maybe chocolate milk on occasion. It's too easy for me to have a bowl of cereal at bedtime but I know that's not good for me at all! That's my plan...

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   Posted 6/14/2010 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I hope you don't mind my jumping in. I wanted to mention a few things I've noticed w/ me, don't know if others have this happen.
 
I have a lot of foods I can not eat, due to a few conditions I have or just the thought of a certain food makes me nauseous. I try very hard not to eat junk, but I do allow myself a treat. I had gone to a pm dr a couple of yrs ago, he had me go on a hi protein/ low carb diet. I was religious about it for many months, did not cheat. I got really sick, into the hosp sick. Many of the foods on that diet I can't even bear to look at or smell anymore.
 
I can't eat nuts, popcorn or seeds. I love rye bread, got so sick a couple of months ago - never again. I don't like white bread, so I make a sandwich of swiss w/ a thin slice of ham w/ a little mustard. Very good - except I noticed awhile back that mustard makes me crave something sweet. If I have one of these sandwiches, I make sure I have a pc of gum as my 'dessert'. It keeps me away from sugary treats. I was just wondering if anyone else noticed that one food made you 'crave' another type of food, especially a sweet.
 
My DH is a T1 Diabetic, and I have tried for yrs to keep him on the straight and narrow. He is finally getting 'it' he has to be aware of everything he eats. I measure his snacks, like a bag of peanuts, I will set up snack bags and that is all he can have of the item. He used to sit w/ an open bag and down the whole bag. I set it up, so he doesn't have to think about it later. He likes this idea a lot and it is working.
 
I had my gallbladder out 18 yrs ago, since then I have decided not to eat after 6 PM. It has helped me to not get sick overnight. My DH works nights, so we eat early so he is set before he goes to work. These past few months I have been really stressed w/ health issues for several family members. I have let myself have something to eat after 6 PM and I don't like it. I feel like I am letting a monster out. No one else has a problem w/ this, I just feel guilty. As Sherrine said, maybe others don't know or care what we are doing, but we 'know' and we can't run away from ourselves.
 
Very interesting topic, Chutz, glad you started it. It seems like we are all Sisters under the skin. Each person brought an interesting point to ponder. I thank you all.
 
I wish us all the best.
 
God bless.  Alice.

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   Posted 6/14/2010 9:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm heading for bed. We ate a bit late and had a small desert afterwords. Bed time and nothing more to eat and don't feel like it. YEAH!

Hope you all are peaceful and feeling good inside...where it counts!

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   Posted 6/14/2010 10:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I tend to stay up late at night, after the rest of my family has gone to bed. This is my time to myself. I usually spend it unwinding, and catching up on whatever chores I have not gotten completed earlier in the evening. This is the time when I am usually the most likely to overeat. I guess that this is because I have no witnesses, or possibly I think more about food when I don't have other things to occupy my mind with. The promlem is not usually my making poor food choices. I am usually eating healthy food. I am just not controlling the amount that I am eating. I have tried prepackaged, premeasured portions, but this does not seem to make much difference. I just talk myself into eating more.

One thing that I have found that does seem to help me to lose weight is drinking plenty of water.

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   Posted 6/15/2010 10:38 PM (GMT -7)   
So how is everyone doing so far this week. Two days in and I feel like I'm losing my grip. That's only because I had 2 young grandsons who needed watching for a couple of hours. But the oldest has decided to have a very ornery mouth all of a sudden. At one point I had the dog and 3 year old both in time out!...lol But the little 9 month old was happy as a clam at high tide. By the time they went home I was so miserable and of course my first thought was food to sooth the pain and stress of the day. Only had a little, then stopped. Better than I usually would have done. Anyone else turn to food when angry?

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   Posted 6/16/2010 12:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I did ok yesterday. I did eat late but it was about 2 cups of popcorn, no butter, and a cucumber. I am gonna try and drink more water today and stay away from the cookie jar, naughty girl.
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   Posted 6/16/2010 5:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Not only do I turn to food when I'm angry, I turn to food when I'm happy, sad, excited, depressed or any other emotion.  So I must be an emotional eater.  I don't really need any excuse I just love to eat.
 
Yesterday I cooked fresh greenbeans with new potatoes out of the garden.  I did put three slices of bacon in them for flavor.  I also cooked some cabbage fresh out of the garden.  I didn't eat any meat at all.
 
Last night my snack was a cucumber, a few pieces of broccoli  and some carrot sticks, but I still had to dip them in Ranch Dressing.
 
I weighed this morning and I was up two pounds.  So far this week I'm not doing very well.
 
Of course I didn't mention that we ate dinner at Ryans Buffet and really pigged out Monday night.  Buffet dinners weaken my will power worse than any restaurant, but I love variety and they call my name when we plan to eat out.
 
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   Posted 6/16/2010 7:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Yep, I am an emotional eater, too. When angry I want CHOCOLATE!!!! PMS week is very fun, and the chocolate runs for the hills. Lol!  I then try to walk it off.
 
I have been following the weight watcher's points plan and have lost 5 lbs fairly slowly (3 weeks), but easily.  I still need to lose 15 more...well, 16 now cuz I am up almost a lb from my low weight on Friday, but I'm ignoring that for the moment.  I find that writing down every single thing I put into my mouth really makes me more aware.
 
I have always been active, I walk 5 evenings out of the week, but my hip pain is starting to interfere. I'm not sure what to do about that. I'm hoping losing the weight will help with everything all around.
 
There is also a website that I use to track  my calories and weight loss. You can even input a goal and see a graph showing how you should reduce to meet that goal. I'm not sure if it's considered advertising, I use the free site. It's fitday.com. I found it a few years ago, and whenever I need some motivation I go there.

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   Posted 6/16/2010 7:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh - and I want to add - WATER really does seem to be a HUGE factor. The more I drink , the faster I lose.

:)

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   Posted 6/16/2010 8:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm down to my goal weight and I know how easy it is to go back up. Maintaining a weight
loss can be as hard as losing it. Each pound that I lost, I visualized 4 sticks of butter and that
picture in my mind made me feel like I really lost something.

Drinking skim milk during the day helps. Protein builds muscle and muscle burns fat.

Taking one day at a time...just like with everything else.

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   Posted 6/16/2010 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for posting your success, Robin! And I agree...losing the weight isn't the hard part. We've all lost tons of pounds!!..lol But keeping it off is another thing. I'm doing OK...not great but OK. Have had a couple of highly emotional days but hopefully things will slow down and I will calm down which always helps.

I try to keep my hands and mind busy. Plus keep something healthy in the fridge, right up front so when I get the urge to snack it's right in front of me. Right now I have lots of fresh fruit in there so I'm set for today. Oh, and a big box of tiny packages of baby carrots. about the dressing to dip the veggies in...I have been making my own homemade Caesar dressing/dip and it's wonderful. You can use skim milk and fat free mayo and you never know it's low cal. I'll dig up the recipe for later. Please do share recipes with everyone or snack ideas too.

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   Posted 6/16/2010 12:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I love to snack and I love my sweets. Have you ever tried frozen grapes? They are
wonderful. I happen to love salt too, so I will eat a handful of pretzels instead of potato
chips. Sometimes I will make a half a dozen hard boiled eggs for the week for snack time.

Most of the foods I'm grabbing are healthier than my old choices. I don't want to feel like
I'm on a strict diet but more aware of what I'm eating. No doubt, I'm an emotional eater
so I definately have to be careful what I bring into the house.

hugs, Robin
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   Posted 6/17/2010 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Robin, I just came on to mention frozen grapes!  You beat me to it.  They are wonderful...especially in the summer.  I also freeze fresh blueberries.  I wash them and let them air-dry and put them in ziploc freezer bags.  It's just as easy to grab a handful of these as it is potato chips and you are doing yourself a favor. 
 
I'm glad to see you enjoy these too!
 
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   Posted 6/17/2010 3:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Frozen blueberries,

I have some in my freezer right now. Now I want some. Ant it is hot enough. They are like a blueberry popsicle. Yum!!!

The grapes sound really good too!!!

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