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JerryUK
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   Posted 12/29/2007 3:16 AM (GMT -7)   
For the last 6 weeks I have been feeling really ill, my symptoms are almost constant nausea (no vomiting my appetite is terrible) lightheaded fuzzy feeling in the head with difficulty concentrating and a bloated feeling in stomach (only just started in last 2 days). I am a heavy drinker around 70 -90 units a week for 20 years but I have stopped drinking since this illness started. I am convinced that I have alcoholic cirrhosis or hepatitis but my liver tests have been looked at by 2 different doctors who say there is nothing to worry about just a slightly raised enzyme level which is to be expected for some one who has been drinking heavily. I am terribly worried and in a state of almost constant panic what should I do?

Butterflythree
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   Posted 12/29/2007 7:17 AM (GMT -7)   
JerryUK, Welcome to the forum. It is great that you have stopped drinking. I am really sorry that you are not feeling well. Have you talked to your doctors about these symptoms? They could be caused from stress or depression. Some foods, medications and vitamins can cause the bloated feeling. Have you asked the doctors if these could be symptoms of alcohol withdrawal? I am sorry that I am unable to give you any answers. There are a lot of knowledgable, caring people here that may be able to help you. I hope you are feeling well soon.
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Pink Grandma
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   Posted 12/29/2007 8:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome JerryUK and contratulations on your sobriety. That is the first defense against a horrible disease. If the 2 doctors are saying that there is nothing to worry about than I would not worry too much. But enough to continue to change your life style. Your body is trying to tell you something..........it doesn't like what you were doing to it for 20 years.

You maybe at the threshold for cirrohsis...Maybe you caught it right before it started. Continue not to drink and eat healthy. Get plenty of rest and excercise. See how you are feeling in another couple of months. If you are still not feeling right go to a different doctor than the first 2 and have more blood work done. What the heck even if you are feeling better have it done anyways. Better safe than sorry.

As far as the lightheadness and nausea it very well could be withdrawal symptoms like Butterfly3 said. When my husband finally decided to quit drinking he was sick for weeks. Drink plenty of water and make yourself eat.... Start with light foods like soup and crackers.

Hang in there and Take care of yourself. Thoughts and prayers.
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Illini
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   Posted 12/29/2007 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
When your liver function tests were done, did they also do a complete blood count and check your sed rate (ESR)? Your white blood cell count and sed rate are indicators of an underlying infectious/inflammatory process going on. If these tests were not done in the past, ask for them. If they were done and were normal, then you should try to relax, and follow the advice above.

1Shelly1
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   Posted 12/29/2007 12:15 PM (GMT -7)   
JerryUK, again let me welcome you to the forum. All the above advise and council is correct. Are you having tremors, sweating, difficulty sleeping too? These are all symptoms of withdrawl and will subside. If it is too much to bear than your Doctor can give you medication to help you. There can be many reasons for the lightheadedness and nausea. Not just withdrawing from alcohol. It sounds like your symptoms began before you stopped drinking. If that is correct than I would suspect that you need a complete workup. That includes a mirade of blood tests, xrays, and a cardiac workup among other things. Potential Gallbladder and pancreatic problems need to be evaluated as well. Since so many things can cause these symptoms there will not be a diffinitive answer until a thorough checkup is completed. Stay off the alcohol as it will increase all your symptoms. If you do not have liver disease and you continue to drink it is likely you will develope liver disease at some point. I am so proud of you for not drinking. You have to eat something however or you will continue to deteriorate. Stick with clear liquids for a couple days and rest as much as possible. Your gut needs a rest so it can heal. Sit on the side of the bed before getting up. Take a deep breath in thru your nose and blow it out of your mouth slowly do this 3 times before getting up. This will help with several issues you presented. It calms you down, helps regulate your blood pressure, and oxygenates your body. High anxiety can increase your illness so you have to find ways to relax. I hope the deep breathing helps some. We encorage our patients to do it several times a day. In fact I do it when I get upset about something.
Everyone here has a heart of gold and much experience. They have a vast knowledge base which will be an asset to. I hope this has helped you a little.
Shelly

JerryUK
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   Posted 12/29/2007 3:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for replying so quickly and for all the great suggestions and advice. So far the doctors have picked up on the nausea and lighthearedness and referee me to an ENT specialist. The possibility this is stress induced could be an explaination because I have been under terrible stress at work driving me to total despair. I can't answer the question on cell counts till Thursday when I see my doctor again. The symptoms occurred after about of drinking but since I drank every day that is not supeising. Originally they went away after a few days and came back when I carried on drinking. Eventually I stopped drinking and the symptoms have continued on and off mainly on for weeks. The worrying thing is they seem to be getting worse, I have been prescribed Stemitil to combat the nausea.

Butterflythree
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   Posted 12/29/2007 3:32 PM (GMT -7)   
JerryUK, I hope the doctor has answers for you very soon. You will be in my prayers.
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JerryUK
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   Posted 12/30/2007 3:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Going for a full medical on Thursday. Hopefully 2 hours of checks and evaluations will come up with an answer.

Pink Grandma
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   Posted 12/30/2007 6:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Good luck and keep us posted. Take care.............
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1Shelly1
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   Posted 12/30/2007 12:00 PM (GMT -7)   

Good luck Jerry, let us know what they find out. By the way inner ear problems causes dizziness and nausea. If that is what it is they can diagnos that relatively easily and treat it. Good luck.

                   Shelly


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   Posted 12/31/2007 10:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Jerry,

How was your Dr. visit? Please let us know ow you are doing. FYI - it is possible to have cirhosis with completely normal liver enzymes. Has a biopsy been recommended?

JerryUK
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   Posted 12/31/2007 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   
The medical is on Thursday so I will let you know ASAP. Your last comment about having cirohsis with normal liver blood tests is what has been worrying me for the last 6 weeks. I believe a biopsy is not something that will be done without some other definite indication of liver desease. Can anyone here say they had a normal liver test but went on to be diagnosed with ALD.

1Shelly1
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   Posted 1/3/2008 1:51 PM (GMT -7)   

JerryUK, how did it go at the Doctors office? What did they find out? I hope it all went well for you. Today is Thursday and if you are in the UK then you must be about 6 hours ahead of us. Let me know OK?

Shelly


JerryUK
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   Posted 1/5/2008 4:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I went for a full medical on Thursday morning (I still havent had the blood test results back yet, due Tuesday). The doctor was unable to detect any specific problem. He said that the nauseau, fatigue and lightheadedness could be due to lots of different illnesses and I had no other physical symtoms of a liver problem. He also said that it is important to take the investigations further because a liver problem could not be ruled out and he recomended an appointment with a liver speicialist and an ultrasound test as the next step. During the session I asked about getting a better anti-nausea drug than Stemetil and he prescribed Domperazone.
After the full medical I went back to my doctor to discuss the issue and he went through my first set of liver blood tests with me (previously I had discussed them in detail with another doctor because he was on holiday). He said that the results were totally normal. When I said I had read that it was possible to have normal results and still have cirroshis or hepatitis he said that it was extreemly unlikely that anyone could have presented a set of results like mine and have any sort of liver problem. In the end he agreed to put me forward for an ultrasound scan (I believe the waiting list is several weeks long).

frustrated_n_wv
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   Posted 1/5/2008 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Jerry

Its wonderful that your physical and blood work came back with no indications of liver damage, but I certainly understand your continued concerns. I am so glad that you insisted on following through with an ultrasound just to be sure. It is so important that you can talk to your doctors and they listen to you and your concerns. I will keep you in my fingers crossed that your ultrasouond comes back normal with no indications of damage.

Good Luck

Lucy

1Shelly1
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   Posted 1/5/2008 8:09 AM (GMT -7)   

Jerry, I am relieved that your tests came back normal. Let us know what the Ultra Sound shows.

         Shelly


Butterflythree
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   Posted 1/5/2008 10:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Jerry, I am glad that you received good news on your tests. I will pray that the doctor's find the cause of your illness and you feel well very soon.
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JerryUK
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   Posted 1/5/2008 2:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I am not in the clear yet, I am still waiting for the second set of blood tests and the doctor at the full medical recomended that I see a liver specialist and get an ultrasound test to establish whether the liver desease can be ruled out as a cause of this problem.

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   Posted 1/5/2008 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Jerry
First Kudos for not drinking any longer..
Secondly welcome to HW ........

Please keep all posted on how the blood work up is and the ultra sound goes

PPL here really do care.........

Thoughts and prayers are with you

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JerryUK
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   Posted 1/6/2008 2:30 AM (GMT -7)   
I am having a bit of a rough time staying off the drink. Still not had anything alchoholic since the 19th of November but last night I was climbing the walls and this morning I woke up in an extremely agitated state which is only just recededing.

frustrated_n_wv
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   Posted 1/6/2008 4:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Jerry

I can only imagine how difficult it is to stop drinking. Will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Lucy

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   Posted 1/6/2008 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Jerry, as an alcoholic with 21+ years alcohol-free, I can tell you that your withdrawal symptoms are primarily mental at this stage. I have heard in meetings, though, that it is one month for every year you drank for your body to totally clear itself of alcohol. Therefore, if you drank for 20 years, it would take 20 months to clear your system totally. I know I was not mentally clear for probably a year after I stopped drinking. Drinking dreams are pretty common for the first year or two. I used to wake up in a sweat from a drinking dream, so thankful that it had just been a dream. These days, I sometimes have smoking dreams. LOL! I stopped smoking 5 yrs. ago, and I think that was more difficult.

Hang in there. You might want to consider AA for support.

Connie

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   Posted 1/6/2008 9:28 PM (GMT -7)   

Jerry, I am sorry that you are suffering and feeling frustrated. I read once that it takes 21 days to make or break a habit and a lifetime to overcome it mentally. I agree that you may find support in AA. It is a tremendously helpful step to take. I am really proud of you for not giving in to the urges. Stay focused on your goals. We are all here for you.

       Shelly


JerryUK
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   Posted 1/8/2008 7:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I have just spoken to the doctor who did the full medical and he said my liver function tests were totally normal and he was also of the opinion that it is extremely unlikely that I have a liver problem with these results. Unfortunatley he was unable to diagnose anything that could be causing the nausea and lightheadedness.

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   Posted 1/8/2008 9:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Jerry,

Did you get specifically tested for Hep C anti-bodies? Only way to rule that out.

I'm no expert on alchoholism but it makes sense to me that some of the other posts sound right on regarding withdrawl and of course your body must be going through major changes. Hang in there & you can do it! I know as a person with Hep C when I feel nauseous or lighteaded/confused, I look right to improving my diet and keep myself extra hydrated. Best to you.
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