Does any one have Nash and ringing in the ears as a symtom?

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Animal_Lover
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   Posted 1/10/2008 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a new dx of Nash stage 3 bridging Fibrosis and I have severe ringing in my ears. I have been taking a diaretic for about 2 weeks now but the ringing is as strong as ever.  And so loud I can hardly hear.  I have a past hx of Menier's and this is common to Menier's but usually after 2 days of taking a diaretic the ringing goes away.  Has anyone experienced this with Steatohepatitis?

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   Posted 1/10/2008 8:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Animal_Lover, I read your question and looked on the web to try to find a site that had both problems (NASH + Tinnitis). I couldn't find any correlation. That doesn't mean that there isn't just that I couldn't find one. I would strongly suggest that you call your Dr and report it. Some medications can cause tinnitis too. Also, you said " I have a past hx of Menier's and this is common to Menier's ". Since Meniers is an inner ear problem you should have it checked out soon. As you know your symptoms can become worse. Good luck and let us know how it's going OK?
Shelly

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   Posted 1/11/2008 5:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Shelly I can't tell you how much I appreciate any help I can get.
Melissa
 


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   Posted 1/14/2008 9:12 AM (GMT -7)   

Animal_Lover,

     Hi this is ggirl, I just joined the forum a week or so ago. I have a son who was just diagnosed with NASH in November. All the gastrologist did was tell me what he had, that his liver is starting to harden and told us to change his diet.  My son is suffering with so many different ailments (i.e. severe headaches, nausea, stomach pain, dizziness and blackouts) he is only 12 yrs old.  I agree with Shelly, would call your doctor ASAP, I have decided to call my sons physician and have him placed in the hospital and have a complete line of test run on him.  I don't know alot about NASH I know more about alcoholic liver disease because of my husband.  But, NASH is just so confusing to me, at least with my husbands disease there is an underlying cause and reason with my son no-one knows why or can give me any other answers.  Good luck, let us know Gina


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   Posted 1/21/2008 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I am very sorry to hear about your son's condition at such a young age.  Mine is due to a fatty liver.  For me the only option is to have the lap band proceedure.  I'll be going in on Jan 28th.  By loosing the weight it should slow down the progression if not improve my condition some what.  But your right there is no real reason as to why the liver done not repair it self.  I Hope you get some answers soon.  As for me head is still buzzing and I am still taking the diaretics to lose the fluid retention, but I still have not had any relief.
 
Melissa
 


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   Posted 1/21/2008 9:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Melissa and welcome to HealingWell. So sorry that you haven't gotten any relief from the ringing in your ears. I have it too. It comes and goes every few days. I don't have any liver disease nor do I have high blood pressure but it sure sounds like I can hear the blood rushing through my veins. It's very irritating.
Good luck on your procedure on the 28th. When you feel up to it post and let us know how you are doing. Thoughts and prayers............
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   Posted 1/22/2008 7:10 AM (GMT -7)   
confused  Animal_Lover
  Hello, well my son had a doctors appointment yesterday with our family physician. He has gained another 10lbs in 1 1/2 months, is having terrible migrains, very high cholesterol and tired all the time.  The doctors are saying that NASH isn't really that bad that it is just a fatty liver.  But, I can get on the internet and find out that it can be very dangerous if the liver doesn't repair itself.  All they keep telling me is to change his diet, well the only way to change it is to completly stop feeding him now.  All my children litterally hate it when I go grocery shopping because they know that there will be no good sweets and snacks in the house.  I demanded more or less a CT scan of his liver and stomach, more blood work and I guess we will go from there.  I can not figure out why my son keeps gaining wait, granted he is a growing boy and 5'5" tall but he doesn't eat anything to put on pounds like that and is very active.  I get so frustrated and feel like I am just talking to walls.  I don't know where else to go or to find help for my son, we have wonderful insurance but the only way it will cover a specialist is if he is referred. Anyway, I hope the procedure you have to have goes well and you start to feel better.  God Bless and keep you.  Gina

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   Posted 1/22/2008 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   

Gina, I am 35 yrs old and for 6 yrs my liver enzymes have only been slightly elevated.  At first it was about 60 -70, Normal I believe is 0-40. and so I never realy paid that much attention and every doctor that I ever saw I always told them that it was normal for me because no one told me any different.  It wasn't untill I saw a new doctor earlier this year and he asked to do new lab work and to see past lab work that was done that I realized how bad it had gotten.  But the thing is when I went for the ultra sound it only said that it was mildly enlarged and with minimal fatty deposits.  The thing that really told us how bad it was, was the liver biopsy.  But with most insurances you have to start from the bottom and work your way up.  So you start with lab work, you ask to be referred to a specialist like a gastroenterologist, and you go from there.  Does your son have diabetes or high colesterol??..  I started this whole thing back in June and didn't get the real diagnosis untill the Middle of December.  I'm not a drinker or drug user I don't have high blood pressure  or colesterol, but I do have insulin resistance, and I am about 90 pounds over weight and I have hypothyroidism.  But I wasn't always heavy it's only been the last 5 yrs that I realy started putting the weight on.  So I don't think it realy has to do with how fat you are but just the the liver sometimes malfunctions.  And then because we are a nation of fast food, fast live styles and low exercise, and junk food eaters that we are now having these problems..  When I was younger I don't remember ever realy having patato chips and candy and Soda pop and all that extra stuff.  For us it was apples oranges carrots and cucumbers, and so on with out the Ranch Dressing..  My Grandfather died of cerrhosis of the liver but for him he was an alcholic.  My sister is also now having high liver enzymes on her lab test.  What I belive is that, we probably have pre-cursers for this desease.. But no one really know because there just hasn't been enough research on Nash.  This is all still very new for me.  And I am still licking my wounds and running around with my head in a fog.  Try to sort it all out.  But my advice is if your feeling like your not getting answers from the doctor that you have change doctors untill you find the one that will work well with you.

Good luck Melissa


 


Animal_Lover
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   Posted 1/22/2008 7:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Pink Grandma I will let you know how it goes. For now the worst is the pre-op liquid diet for protein shakes. It's hard to choke done something that stinks lol. But after words I'm sure it will probably be he injections of Heprin into my stomach several times a day. and only being able to drink an once of fluid at one time. For about a week after.. But I know it is all for a good cause..

Melissa
 


Animal_Lover
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   Posted 2/6/2008 9:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone!! Just wanted to let you know that my lap band surgery went well last week and recovery is going good. I'm still on a liquid and pureed diet but it's not that bad. I'm not really very hungry and it is weird to know that I have to eat a little every couple of hours regardless. I did catch a cold from my girls though. Does any know what cold medicines someone can take and what ones to stay away from. My daughter who is pregnant was told by her doctor she can take Robatusin DM so I figured if it was safe enough for her it should be ok for me.

Melissa
 


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   Posted 2/6/2008 9:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Melissa, So glad your surgery went well and you're on the mend. Join the crowd. I just got a bad cold a few days ago. Had a fever one day and that same night it knocked my on my bottom.
Please don't assume that Robitusin DM will be good for your liver. Ask your doctor first. There are a lot of medications that are very hard on livers. You don't want to compound your problems. Hope we both lick these colds soon. Take care. Thoughts and prayers.
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Animal_Lover
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   Posted 2/7/2008 8:52 PM (GMT -7)   

Good advice Pink Grandma your right I should give them a call, I'll do that tomorrow. 

We did get good news today, my daughter is having a boy.  This is my first grand baby!!!

I hope you feel better soon.

Melissa


 


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   Posted 2/8/2008 7:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Congratulations Grandma! Welcome to the wonderful world of grandparenting. It's a joy! I think I finally found some meds that are working for this cold last night. Feel a lot better this morning. Hope your feeling better. Take care. yeah
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   Posted 2/9/2008 8:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Melissa, I am glad to hear that your surgery went well. I am so excited for you about that new grandson on the way. I saw my grandchild for the first time yesterday via ultrasound. It was so amazing. My daughter is 12 weeks pregnant. The baby was moving its arms and legs. We saw its little heart beating. I was so surprised. I didn't expect the baby to be so developed at 12 weeks. She is due in August. I hope you find something to make your cold a little bareable.

Hi Pink Grandma, I hope you are feeling better.
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Animal_Lover
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   Posted 2/10/2008 1:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Congratulations Butterfly!!! I agree it is amazing to see these little peanuts growing inside. It makes all the thing that life throws at us seem a little smaller in comparisome.

Hi Pink Grandma Hope you are feeling better. Next week I go back to work. And I am definately looking forward to getting out of this house for a couple of hours. I cut my work hours back to 6 hrs a day because of all the doctors apointments. So at least my days will still be a little shorter.

Yesterday when I went to the Dr's for my follow up he was telling my that 73% of diabetic patient that have the bariatic lap band surgery have a reversal rate of this condition.

There should also be a huge improvement with the fatty liver deases. And recomended that I do another liver biopsy in about another year.

I hope every one is well.
Melissa
 


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   Posted 2/11/2008 4:13 AM (GMT -7)   
   
     Animal-Lover, I had ringing of the ears at one time and the specialist I went to told me about 89% of all people have it. (and some of them have been known to go insane) needless to say I did'nt go to him again.
     One of my brothers told me he had suffered from it for a very long time till someone suggested he stop taking asprin. At that time I was taking quite a few so I stopped , and so the ringing went away.
     However that's not the case now. I was told liver damage also affects hearing and eyesight. I'm sure thats not what you want to hear right now. But thats what I have been told by the team of Dr. I've seen.  Take care. june Woluld like to hear from you again.

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   Posted 2/11/2008 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks June I also heard that asprin can be a culprit along with smoking, salt and caffine cocolate and a few others.  But I did not know that the liver deases could also cause problems.

I don't use any asprin or asprin based products or tylonal and since I have had Menear's for years I'm carefull of how much salt I eat, but when I asked my Gastro Doc he told me to see an ENT.

Surprisingly last week I had one day that my ears were completely quite. But that didn't last for long.  Since I had just had Sx. The only thing I had been taking was Lortab for pain and Heprin Injections.  So I'm kind thinking that maybe some of my meds may be the problem. or at least contributing. 

I haven't been able to take my diaretic because it is a caplet and with this bariabtic lap band Sx.  I can not ingest anythin bigger than a pencil earaser head.

Tomorrow I go back to the doctor and so I will ask if they can compound it into some kind of tablet.

But if you have heard of any kind of other treatments I sure would like to hear about them.

Melissa


 


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   Posted 2/12/2008 2:20 AM (GMT -7)   
How soon will you recover from your lapband procedure. An how long to see results.

about your meds. ask the Dr. if you can crush it and mix it with applesause of something else. If it is a liquid same thing. I know there are some that you are not allowed to crush such my potassium , and thats one of the largest pills I have ever had to take and it isnt coated so it sometimes gets lodged in your throat. Hope your Dr. has some solution. TAKE CARE june

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   Posted 2/12/2008 2:21 AM (GMT -7)   
How soon will you recover from your lapband procedure. An how long to see results.

about your meds. ask the Dr. if you can crush it and mix it with applesause of something else. If it is a liquid same thing. I know there are some that you are not allowed to crush such my potassium , and thats one of the largest pills I have ever had to take and it isnt coated so it sometimes gets lodged in your throat. Hope your Dr. has some solution. TAKE CARE june

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   Posted 2/12/2008 7:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Sx was on 1/28/08 so it has been 2 1/2 wks now and realy after 2 weeks you can go back to work. Exercise and walk all that but NO LIFTing anything more than 15-20 pounds. I did go to the Doctor today and the do have a diaretic in pill form that you can cut up. I also got some Cipro for the Urinary Tract infection. With This sx. I will only beable to eat 1/2 cup of food at any given time basically the sechedule is 1/2 cup of food 5-6 times a day so that works out to about every 2 hrs. and 40 oz. of some kind of fluid or protein drink for the rest of my life. Absolutely NO Carbonated drinks and no caffine for a few weeks after Sx. Here is the web site to the Dr.'s office that I go to. http://www.wliaz.com/index.php the time span that they give you is about 8wks total. But every one is different. Because of my age and severety of the fatty liver this is the only possible treatment for the fatty liver. at lease that is what I understand. the more wt. I loose and the less fat that is in the liver the better chance that the liver can recover what is left of the liver. It is realy scary because who goes through stuff like this at the at of 35. To me this is an older persons desease. and you know that there are so many other Obease people out there in the world. Before December I didn't even know that this could be so life threating. It makes me wonder how many other people are walking around out there not realy knowing weather or not they have a silent kill inside of them. I didn't for 6-7 years I was just told by Doctors that I have slightly elevated liver enzymes but it was nothing to worry about. No body told my how sever or how bad it could become untill I switch to a new doctor. Even he just said I want you to see this Gastro Doc. But didn't realy tell my what he suspected.

http://www.wliaz.com/index.php check out the web site it will explain alot
 


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   Posted 2/12/2008 9:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Melissa, I hope that your procedure helps your liver to improve. You will be in my prayers.
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   Posted 2/20/2008 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Sassy, Great you learned how to post. yeah Hope your feeling okay. Thoughts and prayers
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   Posted 2/20/2008 8:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Sassygirl, Just wanted to welcome you to the forum.
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