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eppidrummer
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   Posted 1/18/2008 3:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello,
New here and found out I have hep c and have had it for about 18 years. I have been researching other treatment options. Found these 2 herbs that sound almost 2 good to be true.
The first is Tienchi Genseng: one study has shown 31 out of 40 people treated was cured from the virus within 6 months.
The second is:Colloidal Silver that claims a half the amount of viral load within a month.
Anyone here have any input on these?
Thanks!

CaryF
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   Posted 1/19/2008 10:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Eppi,

In my experience & I tried most everything herbal - there is no herbal cure & collodal silver has been proven to be a scam & is in Federal litigation to be taken off the market.
It is a fad cure - remember coral calcium? Yes, too good to be true. Same thing. I do take a product called Hep Helper which I love. Ensure what you buy is of high quality, organic if possible and remember to stay away from Chinese herbs - no quality control or regulations. Accupuncture has helped me - but I will only take herbal supplements that are not Chinese. First & foremost hold on to your pocketbook - anyone can run credit cards up quickly on snake oil. Its much harder (& better) to make long term diet & lifestyle changes & of course awlays check with Dr. before experimenting with unknowns. Hope this helps.

Pink Grandma
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   Posted 1/19/2008 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Welcome Eppidrummer, sorry about your diagnosis. I wanted to respond but I had no first hand knowledge with herbals. I myself don't trust them and I would not take anything from China period. If they are putting lead in children's toys I would surely not trust anything that I put into my body from there. Cary gave you some mighty good advice.

Cary I just wanted to thank you for your response.

Take care both of you...........thoughts and prayers.
Pink Grandma
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CaryF
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   Posted 1/21/2008 10:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Eppi & Pink Grandma,

I feel like an expert (dupe) on herbals. There are some good quality vitamins & supplements out there and I still take them (I somehow feel better when my pee is flourescent yellow - meaning I've got enough vitamins & supplements in me daily that my body can't absorb anymore), but I am very carefull what I buy and take. Just like everything else in life - you get what you pay for. If you buy Vit. C. from Walmart for $4.99 it is most likely very low quality and from China. about 90% of the ascorbic acid (a form of Vit. C) is still coming from China. If anyone is interested in "complimenting", not supplementing (not replacing) medical treatment with herbals - go to a health food store that has qualified knowledgeable staff and avoid Chinese cures or herbs. I think a good quality daily vitamin can be a good thing for all of us & I also take high quality calcium as I'm approaching perimenopause. Also, us folks with liver disease should avoid iron - never buy a vitamin (or anything - there are a lot of cereals) with added iron. The liver stores iron & we want to avoid iron intake as we get plenty of it in diet - we hardly need any as most of us would test on the high end for heavy metals just due to liver disease. I limit red meat & was a Vegan when on Pegasys. & never eat liver.

It took me a few years of research and trial & error to work this out. There is a sensible way to eat, & take vitamins & supplements, just ensure you know exactly what you're taking & your Dr. is informed.

Thanks for your thoughts & prayers. Right back atcha!

Best, Cary

1Shelly1
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   Posted 1/21/2008 4:27 PM (GMT -7)   

Hello and welcome to the forum. If you take supplements make sure you are taking the correct dosages. It is very easy to overdose on many vitamins and minerals. Most people don't know that you can actually have hypervitaminosis from the dose being too high. Research before taking anything over the counter.

 Shelly


hep93
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   Posted 1/21/2008 9:26 PM (GMT -7)   

"I somehow feel better when my pee is flourescent yellow"

I wonder what Dr. Oz would say about that?  eyes    He contends that the urine should be clear enough to read a newspaper through it! 


1Shelly1
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   Posted 1/22/2008 7:09 AM (GMT -7)   

"I somehow feel better when my pee is flourescent yellow"

I wonder what Dr. Oz would say about that?  eyes    He contends that the urine should be clear enough to read a newspaper through it! 

When you take ceratin vitamins your urine changes color to a bright yellow. Once they are processed the body retains what it can and discards the rest. The byproducts in vitamins changes the color so your "pee" is often bright yellow. There should be no odor to the urine from the discoloration. Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth.
 Shelly

CaryF
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   Posted 1/22/2008 8:01 AM (GMT -7)   
I have worked out the doses that are right for me (with Dr. assistance & permission). I need that bright color to assure me I'm 100%. Don't worry - no smell & I don't plan to drink it.
It is dark brown pee us liver disease folks need to worry about.

I have a chronic illness and insist on getting 100% of the recommended daily amount of vitamins & minerals.
Sometimes I have little to no appetite. My Drs. are fine with my yellow pee and encourage me to persist with my health regimen.

Dr. OZ is not my personal physician. I have never heard him speak to the topic of Hep C.

CaryF
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   Posted 1/22/2008 8:02 AM (GMT -7)   
I have worked out the doses that are right for me (with Dr. assistance & permission). I need that bright color to assure me I'm 100%. Don't worry - no smell & I don't plan to drink it.
It is dark brown pee us liver disease folks need to worry about.

I have a chronic illness and insist on getting 100% of the recommended daily amount of vitamins & minerals.
Sometimes I have little to no appetite. My Drs. are fine with my yellow pee and encourage me to persist with my health regimen.

Dr. OZ is not my personal physician. I have never heard him speak to the topic of Hep C.
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