hep B and all over body pain.

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transparent
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   Posted 3/1/2009 12:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello again,

I recently started posting and reading here and really love this forum, everyone is so kind and caring and reading every post has brought me a lot of joy already.

so my question is,
I have Hep B and for about a year probably since I contracted the disease I have been having all over body pain, mostly in my chest back arms and head, I know its muscle pain because I am very in tune with my body. doctors also say its muscle pain from stress and working but I'm not really stressed out and I haven't worked for about 2 months now the pain come every day in the late evening around 6 or 7 and lasts until i fall asleep.

does anybody know why this happens? or have the same problem.

hep93
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   Posted 3/1/2009 2:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Transparent, it's good to see you posting.  Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you.  Have you mentioned this to your hepatologist?

hep93
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"But that was yesterday, and I was a different person then."
Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland


transparent
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   Posted 3/1/2009 3:20 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah, Ive told them and they say its just stress and muscle aches, I do realize that I am pretty tense most of the time. I think that must be the cause of the pain because that's the only answer Ive gotten from about 5 different doctors.

Pooderdog
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   Posted 3/23/2009 3:31 PM (GMT -7)   
  I have had back muscle pain for the last 4 yrs. at least.  It has now moved to include my legs and hips and also my arms.
I was just diagnosed with HPV.  Dr.'s insist it was depression, etc... Idiots.
So Yea, there is such a side effect of just having the disease.  Most don't have any. 
I finally found a Dr. that agreed to test my liver, and guess what?  She is a Holistic homeopathic Dr.
So i suffer daily with all the pain in my muscles and also hip and right knee joints.
Thank you for letting me vent. I hope this shows ya'll that muscle pain is included in the side effects of the disease.   

pscwife
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   Posted 3/23/2009 4:48 PM (GMT -7)   

 

Hello, welcome to the forum pooderdog.  I’m sorry to find you in so much pain.  I hope you find the knowledge and support you are seeking on this forum. 

 

Hep93 & Transparent, I was wondering if either of you had tried the Calcium/Magnesium supplements to help with your muscle aches? 

 

Well, I’ve since found a comprehensive site that explains things in too much detail, but what I found interesting is that the mineral excess/deficiencies affect different sides of the body.  The pain you described was right-sided—this is dependent on the cell receptors. 

 

Given that you are suffering liver damage, vitamin/mineral storage/delivery is impaired.  Each individual responds differently, so much would be trial and error, and I would certainly consider supplements under a doctor’s care and with blood test supporting the balances.  This may be the key to your relief.

 

http://www.acu-cell.com/acn.html

 

P.S.  Contrary to many publications, the 2:1 ratio of calcium/magnesium may be misstated.  This site recommends taking no more than 500mg of calcium at a time and it should be taken with meals.

 

I hope you find the relief you are seeking.

 

Penny

 


pscwife
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   Posted 3/23/2009 5:00 PM (GMT -7)   

 

By the way, Pooderdog,

 

I think it’s great that you have a holistic doctor.  You need to be dealing with someone that has an open mind.  The liver is so complex and I simply don’t believe man will ever crack it’s codes—only because we are all individuals.  What works for one may not work for another. 

 

I wish you all well in your quest for relief.  I pray you find it.

 

Love,

 

Penny

 


hep93
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   Posted 3/23/2009 5:30 PM (GMT -7)   

Pooderdog, I think I'm missing something here.  HPV is the abbreviation for human papilloma virus (an STD.)  If you have liver disease, could you write it out, please?

Thanks!

Penny, I'm not the one with the muscle problems.  I have some arthritic pain, but that's a whole other story.


hep93
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"But that was yesterday, and I was a different person then."
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pscwife
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   Posted 3/24/2009 3:09 AM (GMT -7)   

 

Hep93,

 

I was referring to a conversation we had back in February with kat1635 (not transparent) where you described chronic left-sided pain that you’ve been dealing with since 2001.  I researched it and someone experienced the same symptoms and all tests came back normal.  The doctor explained that there is a major muscle group just below the rib cage and the pain could be associated with a lack of magnesium.  Calcium and magnesium allow your muscles to expand and contract.  The doctor believed that the pain was associated with this muscle group cramping.  He recommended a 2:1 ratio of Calcium to Magnesium.  The individual started taking CalMag and claimed it brought him/her complete relief.

 

It made sense that a magnesium deficiency could be the source of inexplicable pain.  When the liver is not functioning properly, essential vitamins/mineral balance is lost.  Supplements should be taken, however the dosages need to be explored under a doctor's supervision and supported by blood analysis.  As you know, some vitamins/minerals can be toxic in mass quantities.

 

Take care,

 

Penny

 


Pooderdog
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   Posted 3/24/2009 9:55 AM (GMT -7)   
I do take Calcium and Magnesium Chloride as it is the best absorbed. I have already found out all abt supplements, vitamins, in my search for pain relief of my muscles.
But thanks for the comments.
I am going to receive today some stuff through the mail that is supposed to relieve pain called NatCell Thymus.
And to clarify what I was diagnosed with, my bad, it is not HPV. LOL... It is Hep. C.
So anyway any supplements I may take won't be absorbed well.
Thanks again for your post and response.
Tare Care,
Pooderdog.

hep93
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   Posted 3/24/2009 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, Pooderdog, for clearing up the confusion, and to you, Penny, for refreshing my memory.  It is left-sided pain, just beneath the ribs.  I don't consider it muscle pain, so that's where you lost me.  Hasn't been too bad lately.  Since my labs are fine, I don't want to mess with supplements other than the few I take.  I have an appt. with my hepatologist next week, and if I can think to mention the strange pain I'll see if I can get her take on it.

hep93
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"But that was yesterday, and I was a different person then."
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Pooderdog
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   Posted 3/24/2009 5:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't think you understand, I don't have any pains in my abdomen or chest area.
My all over muscle pain is pain in the muscle. Hep. C causes muscle and or joint pain in 25 Percent of people with it.
No magnesium or calcium will stop or help this pain. I am on a strong pain killer for it called Tramadol. It helps to take the edge off. My life saver. dr. said it is not too hard on the liver.
Pooderdog.
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