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pods_5
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   Posted 4/11/2009 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Hi:  I'm not sure but can anyone tell me if a shoulder hurting has anything to do with liver disease?  My husband has been told he is in final stage of liver disease.  My husband continue's to drink a large bottle of rum every 2 days.  His eyes are yellow as well as his skin, he's always tierd, doesn't work any longer and hasn't for a long time.  He see's a specialist every 6 months they do blood work and give him an ultrasound, when I talked to the doc I told her my husband told me he had a clean bill of health and she told me he was in final liver stage.  I can't understand buy my husband is in such pain with his left shoulder.  He won't go to the hospital, he fell Feb 8 2009 his whole arm turned black the brusies were there for over 7 weeks, everything healed well but he crys out with pain with his shoulder.  He sometimes gets angry, has naps, and we sometimes watch his face swell up.  His feet are sometimes so swolen he can't get his socks on.  The doctors aren't really willing to help to much (which I understand because he continues to drink) but what are the final stages? How will I know I'm near the end?
 
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hep93
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   Posted 4/11/2009 9:48 PM (GMT -7)   

pods_5, welcome to the forum.  I am sorry to hear that your husband continues to drink in the face of ESLD.

The best thing you can do is read the educational topics on this page.  The information they contain will give you a better idea of what to expect.  Since your husband's pain is in his left shoulder, I doubt it has anything to do with his liver.  Shoulder pain is sometime indicative of a heart attack, but it's more likely that he did some damage in his fall.  Did he have an x-ray?  He could even have a fracture.  That sounds like the least of his problems, though.  And you are right--doctors aren't anxious to help a liver patient who continues to drink.

You have your hands full, but you can get a lot of information and support here.


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Butterflythree
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   Posted 4/12/2009 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to the forum Pods_5. It too am so sorry to hear that your husband continues to drink. I agree with Connie regarding the shoulder pain. He probably fractured in. I wish you luck with this roller coaster ride of liver disease. It can be a very devastating disease.

You will be in my prayers.
Butterflythree
 
There is always hope!


pods_5
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   Posted 4/26/2009 7:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for your help hep93 and butterflythree....I finally did take him to the hospital about his shoulder....and no nothing is broken, but the weekend has been a tough one. My husband is very yellow and his belly is swollen, he says when he goes to the bathroom the colour is deep yellow, his has been in bed for 3 days and hasn't eaten at all this week, not even a little. He has been up all weekend and also hasn't had any alchol in about 18 hours. I don't know what to do. My husband is a good man and we have never a fight, he's a good man. He has lost 18 pounds in 2 weeks and won't go to the hospital. Will I know when to take him? He never speaks to me about these topics. Thanks

hep93
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   Posted 4/26/2009 9:46 PM (GMT -7)   

Honey, there is nothing the hospital can really do for him at this point.  They might drain his abdomen if there is a lot of fluid.  18 hours is not a long time w/o alcohol.  Try to get some soup or ice cream into him.  I doubt he can handle solid foods.  Try to get him to drink water, at least.  If his kidneys shut down, he won't live beyond a couple of days.  I feel really bad for you that he has allowed this to happen and hasn't cared enough to get help.

Hugs,

Connie


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catt801
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   Posted 5/10/2009 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi there

My brother was at this same stage your husband is at a few years ago. It was so hard for me and my mum to look after him. I am affriad the answer is plain and simple, he is going to die. You need to get him into hospital immedtiately, they will drain his abdomen and give him a course of withdrawal tablets which I think he can only get in hospital, thats what they did with my brother. You might also find that the doctors aren't that interested that much either, this is really bad I think, alcoholics are still human beings. Anyway, even if you chuck all the drink out, they told us that might kill him as well, as coming off it to fast is just as bad as drinking it. Thats why they give you those tablets in hospital I think, in case you have a reaction to coming off the drink. Anyway my brother is alive and well, back at work and living a normal life. So may be there is still hope for your husband.........it seems quite clear that either your husband has given up all hope and has accepted his fate, or you aren't close enough to talk to one another?

In either case he still needs your help, you must be at the end of your tether and extremly distressed. They told us my brother only had a week or two left to live, his kidneys were failing, we moaned and moaned for him to go into hospital and he put it off with excuse after excuse, he wasn't interested. In the end we had to drag him there, after we pointed out that if he wouldn't do it for himself then he must do it for us, if he had an ounze of love or respect for either me and mum then he must go into hospital. You will have to be ruthless and say anything to get him there.

He sometimes didnt eat for a week at a time. He also got so ill that he didn't drink on the odd day. Anyway he was in hospital on these tablets and painkillers and they were draining his abdomen all the time, after a week he came home, we chucked all the drink out but he still drank, he started off on shandy, I think to be honest he just needed the routine of having a alcoholic drink in his hand. Now two years later he still drinks but only one pint of beer a night. Not the same as not drinking anything but he battled a battle of battles and came out the other end.

I really feel for you because he is doing this in front of you and you are helpless, this is selfish but and also out of his control now. This is why you need to take control, as like my brother, he couldn't make a sane dicision mentally, he is too far gone. The only! way which still might not be successful, is to get him into hospital.

He needs you, be strong. Otherwise he will die and you will be left with a lot of guilt, guilt which you should not have. Either that or walk out, he needs to have a shock that will give him one last jolt into doing whats best for you, not for him and take it from there.

Sorry for being so blunt, but its reality time for both of you.

Hope I have helped in someway sweetheart and good luck xxx

Catt

hep93
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   Posted 5/11/2009 11:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Catt, please see the replies to your other post.  wink
hep93
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"But that was yesterday, and I was a different person then."
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