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worriedgirl
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   Posted 12/7/2009 10:19 AM (GMT -7)   
i am wanting to share an idea with you that could or may make ones who have lost a loved one, to people who are losing a loved one, and to those who are looking death in the eye.
 
have you ever wondered why a person asks for dead family members like moms or dads. well i believe that there is a plane between heaven and earth that a person visits when they are hanging between life and death(for ex. a person in a coma or coming and going between awake and coma, etc.). when they wake up from this plane of reality they may be confused as to why their loved ones are not there. thats why they ask about their loved ones when they come to this plane. i believe that the family members that are in the other plan(maybe mom and dad) are sent so that our loved ones are not crossing over alone. i believe they are escorted to heaven(if you believe in heaven) by their mom and dad or other loved ones, whomever they were closest to.
 
 
i dont know why i feel that way but it brings comfort to me knowing my mom was escorted to heaven by her parents. makes me think that she wasnt scared and alone. and when my time comes i hope my grandparents and my mom is there to escort me to heaven.
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hep93
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   Posted 12/7/2009 11:52 AM (GMT -7)   

WG, I think that's a good possibility.  It's not uncommon for dying people to mention that a dead mom or husband was there, etc.  A mother wrote on a forum for grieving pet owners that her little girl was dying of leukemia and suddenly sat up in bed, her face brightened and she cried out, "Fluffy!" (the name of her cat who had died) and then fell back and passed away with a smile on her face.  Science might tell us that these are hallucinations, but I believe that spirits live on and may indeed escort dying loved ones to "the other side."

Hugs,

Connie


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worriedgirl
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   Posted 12/7/2009 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   
that is a good thought. so my uncle bought us a locket for some of moms ashes to go in, no not jewelry locket lol thats what i thought it was, and im gonna have it engraved saying "Mom 01/05/59-11/21/09" i think she will like that.

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hep93
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   Posted 12/7/2009 3:37 PM (GMT -7)   

WG, is that a type of container?

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Connie


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shadowsghost
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   Posted 12/7/2009 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   

Okay so I am thinking my mummy was right, I am a deranged little girl! I have some of my mummy in a mini urn that I wear on a chain, my friends at work even say Hi to me and my mummy..... lol. I talk to her and sometimes get mad at her but we all need that someplace to put our grief and visit loved ones that have passed on, according to people that specialize in grief. My mummies ashes went home back to england and I wanted some of her here.

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   Posted 12/7/2009 11:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Sue, if your deranged so am I..........I have an enameled heart with a tiny bit of his ashes which I wore for over a year. It helped me get through it. I finally took it off and put in the case with his mini urn. He is in my entertainment center..........He would love that as he loved to watch TV a lot.

There's no right or wrong way to work through the grief. People need to do what makes them feel better.

Thoughts and prayers...........
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worriedgirl
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   Posted 12/8/2009 12:28 AM (GMT -7)   
hep it is like a mini urn that is set on a table for you to see and mine is shaped like a heart
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allie2631
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   Posted 12/8/2009 1:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Wg, I really think i believe that too. when my gran was dying she talked about her "mammy" a lot.. she never spoke about her a lot as we were growing up, but she took great comfort in knowing she was near her. Whether it was her imagination or not she and we took comfort in it. in her last 6 weeks when she gave up eating and her meds we pinned up all her very old pictures all over the wall. as she was in a room herself not able to do anything for herself. she had her mammy, daddy, brothers, gran who were all passed up there, also her two cholidren who had passed. i believe she took great comfort in that. i felt that her spirit moved on the day before she died, and her body was just the mechanics slowing down finally shutting dow, i believe that helped me get through it easier.
i read all about "the dying process" before she died, (not nice for some people but i had to know what lied in store for her so i could cope, as she had no one else) and it stated on many sites that you had the spiritual aspect of dying as well as the physical. I think they got it right.

worriedgirl
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   Posted 12/8/2009 11:12 AM (GMT -7)   
i just thought it all made sense, the alternate plane, why else would they see their deceased loved ones before they die. i dont know about you guys but it gives me great comfort knowing she wasnt alone.
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hep93
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   Posted 12/8/2009 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   

WG, thanks for the description of the locket.

Hugs,

Connie


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worriedgirl
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   Posted 12/8/2009 4:17 PM (GMT -7)   
your welcome. i get to see it today and thursday i am having it engraved and hopefully it will be ready by friday so i can have her ashes put in it and have it displayed asap. i am excited as right now i feel a void where she should be. i am missing her terribly and i am hoping having some of her ashes will help. last night on the way home i was thinking about alot of our good times when she wasnt drinking and i almost cried. i dont know why i feel i still have to be tough as i did all that i needed to do to get ready for the funeral. i just want my mom to be proud of me even though she is gone from me. i have no idea where i am at in the grieving process as i am still a whirlwind of emotions right now. i think one day i will post something of all the good times along with some of the bad so that you guys can see she was not all bad despite the things she has done. maybe that will help others in my predicament. i do know i am kind of angry at her for doing drugs and alcohol and getting herself sick in the process but i do know i dont hate her, i love her. they say that you dont know what you'll miss until its gone and that is the truth.
hep93 said...

WG, thanks for the description of the locket.

Hugs,

Connie



The only person who can make you happy is you. Be your own self and love who you are because each and every one of you are wonderful for who you are


Pink Grandma
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   Posted 12/8/2009 7:28 PM (GMT -7)   
WG, you are just beginning the grief process.......You'll go through different stages over and over before it's done. Everyone goes through it in their own way. Check into a grief support group when you are able.....if you have a hospice in town they may have one. I don't believe it ever goes away.......it just gets easier to bare.

When I took my husband's ashes to SF Bay.......a ship with the name of his grandmother came by and washed his ashes out to the bay. His brother said that she came to take him home.

Your mom is proud of you worriedgirl. And so am I. You are one strong woman. You should be proud of yourself too.

Thoughts and prayers............
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allie2631
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   Posted 12/9/2009 1:40 AM (GMT -7)   
yes we are all proud of you and how you managed to stay strong for your mum right until the end. I too believe that you are only at the beginning of grieving. You are trying to fill the gap in your life of where she could have been, that i think is why you are so excited about the locket. Having her there beside you will help, I am sure of that. You probably still have a lot of anger to come out. Having your mum taken from you so early is cruel especially when there was a lot of heartache to go with it. the alcohol and drugs took over your mums life and made a wedge between you,but you were so lucky to have overcame that maybe only on the outside, but the healing has yet to come on the inside, and that will take time. you are coping so well, maybe you don't really know it but you are.Your mum will be at peace surrounded by her loved ones who were waiting for her , so you are right to take comfort in that.
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CGR
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   Posted 12/9/2009 12:27 PM (GMT -7)   

There is also a place called Life Gem (lifegem.com). They take a small amopunt of the vremains and use a carbon process to form it into a gemstone that can be set in a pendant or ring.

I'm glad to see that worriedgirl is still posting here and will be here to help others through the process.

Blessings to all


worriedgirl
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   Posted 12/9/2009 4:55 PM (GMT -7)   
of course i will be here to help. i know what these guys are going through as i have been through it to. i am also going through the pain and suffering of losing one so soon. i know today i was thinking i need to call my mom and tell her i love her. i wonder when im gonna stop getting the urge to call her.
The only person who can make you happy is you. Be your own self and love who you are because each and every one of you are wonderful for who you are


arneeb
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   Posted 12/9/2009 10:02 PM (GMT -7)   
u'll always want ur mom... but hopefully the pain will subside... my thoughts and prayers are with u

arneeb
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   Posted 12/9/2009 10:02 PM (GMT -7)   
u'll always want ur mom... but hopefully the pain will subside... my thoughts and prayers are with u
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