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Lynnman
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   Posted 1/28/2010 5:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone, I have spent the last few days reading post dating back to 2007. I have to say that I am amazed at the compassion and love that I have observed in this group.  I feel guilty even writing you all since I have not been diagnosed with either Hep C or cirrohsis of the liver.
My heart goes out to you all.
 
I have been a heavy drinker for the past 11 yrs ignorant of the possible damage that I could be doing. I started having stomach pain and slight itching and I have been experiencing Fatigue on and off for many years. I had my  gallbladder removed 1 yr ago and  I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia this past spring. I wonder though if it may not be my liver. I plan on seeing a doctor after Feb1st (when my husbands insurance kicks in) Its scary to think of the possible outcome and the fact that I have probably done it to my self.  Can anyone tell me if blood test will definitly Identify liver damage? Also would the itching I'm experiencing be more severe? It's not all the time. Thanks for listening, hope to hear from you all. By the way I have not had a drink in 7 dayswink  I don't ever plan on drinking again. I just hope God can forgive me for treating my body so badly.
 
                                                                         Lynn

mathman
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   Posted 1/28/2010 7:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lynnman,

I am only replying because I am in the same position as you - I feel very guilty about the damage I've done to my body, although having never been dx with cirrhosis. I was dx with fatty liver (a usually harmless condition that "can lead to cirrhosis if prolonged/chronic") at age 18 after having elevated liver enzymes. I was obese then so no surprise. I lost the weight and had normal enzymes, was told liver was back to normal. So like any "normal" college boy I partied about 1/week for 8 months before quitting.

Recently I've had a bout of guilt (how could I do that to myself after being a liver patient?) and stopped drinking. Went to the doctor paranoid about bouts of dark urine, and white-ish nails - told him the truth about my drinking - and he didn't seem concerned because the blood tests and urinalysis came back normal, and I'm a young male (21). Doesn't want further testing and I can't afford it anyway. Damage or not, I'm taking better care of myself. Might be fine. Who knows.

I hope a member with better info than me will chime in, but I would think that they would have seen any real damage when taking out your gallbladder. I totally understand the guilt/fear/anxiety though, but a visit to your doc might do some good. I'd also like to know from members' experiences if alcohol-induced cirrhosis usually shows up in bloodwork.

All the best.
mathman

hep93
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   Posted 1/28/2010 8:50 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi, Lynnman and welcome to the forum!  Congrats on not drinking for 7 days!  Both you and Mathman should be congratulated for the concern you are showing for your bodies BEFORE major damage occurs.  So many people (as you know if you've read many of the posts here) stop drinking too late or not at all--even though it is literally killing them.

When doing blood work, if you ask the doctor for a liver panel to be done, then you should find out if there is any present damage.  If there is, most likely some or all of the liver enzymes will be elevated.  Cirrhosis is determined by liver biopsy.

Lynnman, the itching you are having is likely dry skin or an allergy.  In liver disease, it generally doesn't occur until end-stage.  It is a result of the liver not being able to process bile salts.

When you see your doctor in Feb., be honest about your drinking.  Get a physical exam and ask for a liver panel in addition to the usual CBC and urinalysis.  If you think you will have a problem staying stopped from drinking alcohol, look into AA.  I drank heavily for over 20 yrs.  What happened in my case is that it caused a bone condition known as osteonecrosis, where the large joints literally die and disintegrate.  I've had to have bilateral hip replacements and 3 revisions.  So alcohol abuse can cause problems to the body other than to the liver.

Good luck and please let us know the outcome of your doctor visit!

Hugs,

Connie


hep93
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worriedgirl
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   Posted 1/29/2010 6:41 AM (GMT -7)   
i hope its not your liver. and if it turns out its not start treating your body better and stay away from alcohol. it does terrible things. i will be posting my moms story in the thread hi guys in about a hour and it can show you how the alcohol affects more than your body. either way we are here for you .
The only person who can make you happy is you. Be your own self and love who you are because each and every one of you are wonderful for who you are


Lynnman
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   Posted 1/29/2010 10:54 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks worriedgirl,

I'm sorry about your mom, and I will read your post on her. It's wonderful that you are using your experience to help others. Thanks for that. I have already taken steps to take better care of myself. I have stopped drinking, and I have been eating more fruits veggies, and I started taking vitamines. Its funny, I never considered myself an Alcoholic, just enjoyed drinking 4 or 5 beers every other night. I have since learned through all of my research that I am definetly one. I guess, I have a dear childhood friend to thank for even questioning my drinking, because I learned that she died of cirrhosis of the liver. I had moved away and had not seen her in about 10 yrs. We just lost contact. I did not find out that she had died until she had been gone for 1 year. It really it me hard and I started researching cirrhosis and what I have learned has scared me to death. I was ignorant as to what Alcohol can do to your body. I never even considered what I could be doing to my liver. I did always worry about becoming an Alcoholic though. It's funny how you can convince yourself that you don't have a problem. Thanks for the encouragement it's greatly appreciated.

Lynn


Lynnman
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   Posted 1/29/2010 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   

Mathman,

I truly appreciate your reply, I did think the same thing about the gallbladder surgery myself and the fact that you mentioned also gives me some hope. I totally agree with you about taking care of yourself. It sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and very wise for your young age. I'm 47 and it's just now that I am beginning realize how presious life is. I have a wonderful husband and two wonderful grown children. It would be so sad not to be here for them. My son got married last year, and who knows one day I may become a grandma and I want to be here for it. 

I am going to see my doctor and I will be honest with him about how much I drink. It's funny because there have been times that I even confided in my husband about my drinking and ask him if he thought I was an Alcoholic and he would  always say no. This is a man who rarely drinks. It just help me to continue in my ways (although I don't think he was aware of how much I was drinking for I did alot drinking when he was not home) Anyway things are changing. Thanks again for your reply it was truly appreciated.

  Lynn 


Lynnman
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   Posted 1/29/2010 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   

Connie,

Thank you for the information. It does give me a little relief of anxiety. I will be completely honest with my doctor. I really have dertermined that I am not going to drink anymore. Life is to precious to just throw it away. I really want you to know how much you are helping people with all of your counsel. I have read so many of the threads and it is heart warming to me to see that there is a place for people who are dealing with such a horrible illiness like hepititus. I pray that my situation turns out ok, but if not I know that I have a place to come and to be comforted and hopefully give comfort. I will let you know how things turn out. Thanks again

Lynn


hep93
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   Posted 1/29/2010 12:35 PM (GMT -7)   

Lynn, you are very welcome.  I hope that your exam and tests turn out just fine.  You may be stopping in time.  There is a very fine line between heavy drinking and alcoholism.  You may not have crossed it yet.  It has more to do with the way alcohol affects you and your personality than with how much you drink.  Also if you get very antsy or irritable without it; if you obsess about it; if you hide how much you are drinking from others or make excuses for how much you are drinking; if you find you are drinking in the morning; if you tell yourself you will only drink one but it's always more; if you can't predict what will happen when you drink, etc.  Alcohol affects women differently than men.  It takes less of it to do damage, mainly because we are smaller with less muscle mass.

Alcohol also affects the brain.  As Worried Girl and others here can tell you, it's not a pleasant thing to be around.  Brain cells do not regenerate.  Here is some information on "wet brain:"

http://www.brainhealthandpuzzles.com/wet_brain_syndrome.html

If you think you were drinking too much, then you probably were.

Best of luck to you and keep us posted!

Hugs,

Connie



hep93
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"But that was yesterday, and I was a different person then."
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Post Edited (hep93) : 1/29/2010 10:34:31 PM (GMT-7)


worriedgirl
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   Posted 1/29/2010 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
it took awhile but the story is there now. yes i hope i can because i hate to see others go through this and since i have been maybe i can help. this is what my mom would have wanted.
Lynnman said...

Thanks worriedgirl,

I'm sorry about your mom, and I will read your post on her. It's wonderful that you are using your experience to help others. Thanks for that. I have already taken steps to take better care of myself. I have stopped drinking, and I have been eating more fruits veggies, and I started taking vitamines. Its funny, I never considered myself an Alcoholic, just enjoyed drinking 4 or 5 beers every other night. I have since learned through all of my research that I am definetly one. I guess, I have a dear childhood friend to thank for even questioning my drinking, because I learned that she died of cirrhosis of the liver. I had moved away and had not seen her in about 10 yrs. We just lost contact. I did not find out that she had died until she had been gone for 1 year. It really it me hard and I started researching cirrhosis and what I have learned has scared me to death. I was ignorant as to what Alcohol can do to your body. I never even considered what I could be doing to my liver. I did always worry about becoming an Alcoholic though. It's funny how you can convince yourself that you don't have a problem. Thanks for the encouragement it's greatly appreciated.

Lynn



The only person who can make you happy is you. Be your own self and love who you are because each and every one of you are wonderful for who you are


DGinSD
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   Posted 2/1/2010 3:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lynnman,
 
The itching could be related to your gallbladder removal.  If your body is having trouble processing bilirubin and it becomes elevated in your bloodstream, it will cause itching.  Have a liver panel done as Connie suggested.  That'll show any inflammation in your liver if you are worried about your drinking having caused problems.  It will also show if your bili is elevated.  I have AIH (autoimmune hepatitis).  I am in remission but last fall my bili started creeping up.  The doc wanted to lower my immunosuppressants but I didn't want to risk a flare so I requested a prescription for Ursodiol.  It's a bile acid.  It lowered my bilirubin so maybe that's something they can prescribe if it is elevated on your blood work.  Definitely bring it upi with the doc when you go in.
 
Kudos to you and Mathman for starting to take note on what alcohol consumption can do to your body.  As with anything, in moderation, it's fine.  Unless you end up diagnosed with a liver disorder...then you don't get any cool .
Dany
 
Diagnosed with AIH January 2007,
CMV (cytomegalovirus) June 2008
meds: Azathioprine 100mg
 
 


ailsa
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   Posted 2/1/2010 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Lynnman, You are smart to quit drinking before it affects your liver, I didn't and was/am a nurse. I am 47 now , had gallbladder removed in june of 2007. After surgery my bili went really high. they did a liver bx and diagnosed cirhosis, I am diagnosed with auto-immune hepatitis, but the alcohol had to be a huge contributing facto, I was on the transplant list by April 2008, with a meld of 20. Very sick. Other labs that will be abnormal are your PT, PTT 
and INR.  People with liver problems bruise easily and have a tendency to bleed. I don't want to overwhelm you w/ to much info, But, I'll try and answer whatever question you have. So advise ---stop drinking and get complete bloodwork. I wish I had. Oh, I never had the transplant, alot of meds (cellcept, and diet brought my meld down to 8! Good luck to you!
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