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kriland
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   Posted 3/13/2011 4:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi again
 
Just wondering if anyone can give me some info. My husband as been having extreme liver spasm like cramps that come and go but when they happen it looks like the liver is going to burst out the skin!  He said that his liver then 'pulsates' between spasms.  can anyone help me out with some info about this and can the liver rupture or anything else happen caused by the spasms as they are getting alot worse.
 
Thanks again everyone

MamaLama
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   Posted 3/13/2011 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Are you sure it is liver? My hubby has had pulsating pain high and on the right in November 2010 that turned out to be acute pancreatitis attack. They settled himdown with some good drugs at the ER and then had him rest his GI track totally with liquids (IV) for a few days and sent him home pain free. ML

hep93
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   Posted 3/13/2011 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   

ML, that's a bit confusing as the pancreas is under the left lobe of the liver.  It could have been referred pain.  However, I agree that there is probably another cause for the pain. 

Kriland, rarely is there actual liver pain.  It can be caused by distension of the liver's surface, but this is rare.  To quote Dr. Melissa Palmer, "Other causes of abdominal pain include those related to the stomach, such as peptic ulcer disease and gastritis...and are readily treatable when discovered."  Try putting him on a mostly liquid diet with some bland foods like mashed potatoes, baked sweet potato, vegetable soup (homemade or low sodium canned), and well-cooked carrots.  And don't forget water. 

This is something that should be brought to a doctor's attention, but I know your husband is refusing treatment.

Hugs,

Connie


hep93
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kriland
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   Posted 3/14/2011 1:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks heaps the GP said that it was the liver as it is swollen but who knows and he is just guessing too as the is no scans to go by! All I know is that if he bends or stretches in a certain way it pretrudes (on the right hand side under the ribs) and he sreams and cries in pain until it settles. You can actually see it pretruding and I keep thinking it is going to explode!!! Thanks again though I will run it by the doctor in the morning.

hep93
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   Posted 3/14/2011 12:22 PM (GMT -6)   

Kriland, just remember that GPs know very little about liver disease.  I don't doubt that your husband has an enlarged liver, but it could be other organs that are being squeezed by the liver, or adhesions, or....  It really is a guessing game without scans.  Since he has liver disease, it's easy to blame the pain on the liver, but that excludes all other possibilities.  When I bend down a little too far, I get terrible pain in the upper left quadrant.  It seems to spasm and I have to wait until it relaxes.  I've been told it is probably from adhesions (3 abdominal surgeries), but I doubt it.  However, neither do I think it is my left liver lobe (all that remains after cancer surgery.)

Hugs,

Connie


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bostonmike
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   Posted 3/14/2011 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I have the same reoccuring pain on my upper right side and lately it has been worse. There is no swelling or protusion. It happens when deep  breaths are taken, like when the diaphragm expands it presses on an organ or some stomach region body part and causes severe pain. I thought the liver had no nerves and I brought that to my doc's attention recently. I forget what he said and he just prescribed 0.125 mg.'s of Hyosycamine Sulfate, 1 a day muscle relaxer. This was a few weeks ago and they do not really help.. I know my spleen is enlarged because of my liver overflowing, being unable to flow normally from the little ascities I have and cirrhosis. It could be that or another organ. I agree with Mike K., I feel like I am waiting for the next sypmtom that Hep C and cirrhosis has to offer. In the meantime I try to take it easy and rest. I would like to start walking and excersising, but any kind of exertion can set me back or the muscle spasms start. I have all the time in the world to think about this crap. I try to be productive doing simple tasks like shopping or cleaning and I get drained from them. Even taking a walk this afternoon made my toes cramp up when I took a nap this afternoon. My girlfriend says to call your doctor. I just called him a few weeks ago about the pain and he just says with cirrhosis this is what happens and is expected. I will try the diet of fresh vegetables and fluids that Connie said might help. Thanks. BostonMike.

hep93
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   Posted 3/14/2011 9:25 PM (GMT -6)   

Boston Mike, that's fresh veggies and FRUITS, not fluids.  Although 32 oz of water a day is good, some are on fluid restriction due to ascites and can't have that much.  Your cramping sounds like it could be from low potassium.  Do you know what your last blood work showed on that?

Hugs,

Connie


hep93
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bostonmike
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   Posted 3/15/2011 11:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I had bloodwork in 01/2011 but my doc never sent me the results and that is a first. He has been good about sending results about any procedures or bloodwork. In Sept 2010 my Potassium level was 3.8. The normal range is 3.5-5.1. That was 6 months ago. I am scheduled for bloodwork (BMP) Basic Metabolic this month. I received the form last week . I thought he would send the results in the mail with my bloodwork and Rear Paracentisis done in Jan/2011. I talked to him last month and he said everything looked good, so I asked him about the pain getting worse in my right side. He prescribed those muscle relaxers. I'll let you know the results as soon as I receive them.

hep93
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   Posted 3/15/2011 1:44 PM (GMT -6)   

Mike, make sure that you ask for copies to be made for you while you are there, or that they be sent to you.

Hugs,

Connie


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