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wantsinfo35
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   Posted 9/18/2013 11:12 AM (GMT -6)   
When a person has this can you suck your stomach flat when laying down or standing and is your stomach hard or soft?

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   Posted 9/18/2013 11:50 AM (GMT -6)   
The pictures i have seen make it look like people are pregnant, whether laying or standing you always had a bulge. I think the stomach also feels wavey.

I know several people on here have dealt with ascites and can give you a better description.

I do know they have all said it is extremely uncomfortable.
Sean

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   Posted 9/18/2013 12:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Are you seeing a hepatologist? That's the best way to determine whether you have ascites or not.
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wantsinfo35
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   Posted 9/18/2013 1:04 PM (GMT -6)   
No it is my husband and his family doctor is going to run test since we have not seen a doctor or bx in 6 years can you tell me what all test need to be ran so I can give the doc a list to determine if hep c has done any damage?
I was just wondering about the ascites because he has gained weight over the last months but would there be any other symptoms along with ascites?  I told him the other night to suck in his stomach and it went flat standing and laying so maybe its just fat.  Just was asking about it

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   Posted 9/18/2013 1:18 PM (GMT -6)   
You doctor will run a liver panel (AST/ALT etc) , a CBC for white and red cells stuff, and check the albumin/potassium, sodium--electrolytes), will do the cholesterol tests, and will also likely run some kidney function things -- BUN, creatinin, bilirubin. He should run some of the cancer markers, notably Alkaline Phos and Alpha Feto Protein. They generally run a PT (prothombin time) and INR to see how quickly your blood clots. T hey will likely also do a blood glucose. If some of that is goofy, they will likely do an ultrasound of your liver or call for an MRI of the abdomen to check things out.

All these things can go crazy if/when the liver is in distress.

My partner did not have ascites, but did retain fluid in his legs. It was pretty awful for him. The folks with ascites get large hard bellies. They can remove that fluid by drawing it out through a needle. Others may share those stories...paracentesis it is called. They can take a liter or more from folks.

Most who needs that complain of being very uncomfortable and having difficulty breathing.

Keep us posted. You are seeing a Hepatologist at a major medical center, right, not a GI doc or a PCP in a hometown hospital?

Best, Mama Lama
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wantsinfo35
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   Posted 9/18/2013 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
The family doctor is going to run the labs and send them off. We had the ALT which was 34 and the AST was 27 all in normal range and doc said his liver was fine. I want more tests run, so he is going to run the tests and then, if we need to see a specialist, my husband said he would go. I am just worried since it has been 6 years since we saw a doctor and had his bx done.

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A.Ziffle
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   Posted 9/18/2013 1:46 PM (GMT -6)   
 I had chronic ascites. I could not lay flat and suck my distended abdomen in. Most people that get it severely have muscle wasting, Anorexic looking with a huge belly. What is usually lost in muscle tissue is gained in fluid retention and the belly is not soft when pressed on. Edema in the legs all the way up to the scrotum is something to be aware of also. The scrotum swelling is very painful and some may be embarrassed to mention it, so the problem can linger until it becomes complicated to walk.
 
 Most ascites can be remedied via medications and may take awhile for them to work until they get them adjusted just right. No two people take the same dosages of diuretics. It's a fine balance to keep the fluid off without damaging the kidneys simultaneously, This is just one of many reasons he needs to be seeing a Hepatologist or minimally a GI doctor. The fluid issue (if he has one) can be overcome in most cases.
 
 
 Ziff
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hep93
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   Posted 9/18/2013 5:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Personally, I don't think your hubby should mess around with a family doctor. Get a referral to a hepatologist or, at least, a GI doc...especially since it's been years since his last biopsy. You want aggressive diagnosis and treatment at this time.

Hugs,
Connie
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wantsinfo35
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   Posted 9/18/2013 6:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree Connie but right now this is all he wants to do until the first of the year. Since I want to see how his liver is functioning and his viral load and bilirubin along with his white blood count and red what do I need to tell the doctor to run?

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   Posted 9/18/2013 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Yo don't need to tell the doc what to test for. A hepatologist will know what to test for. Stop wasting time and get to a specialist.
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   Posted 9/18/2013 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
 I know asking you to badger him is fruitless but it would truly make your and his life easier if he just made the appointment with a Hep/GI doctor and got this out of the way. I understand about hunting season and I actually went a few times after my diagnosis. I was pretty sick but found it therapeutic just sitting out there even if I didn't get anything. He really needs to buckle down , see a professional, take a few little test and it will be behind him. This will haunt you and him both until he gets it done and that's gonna throw cold water on any enjoyment until then. Worry and stress are worse than most anything he might face from being informed.
 
Ziff 
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wantsinfo35
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   Posted 9/18/2013 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree everything you said but i will take this for now. I am doing good to get him to his reg doctor I know it sounds crazy but he is being so hard headed about this whole thing there are no symptoms I can see but I want to know how it is functioning for give me if I am wrong but i'm going to take what I can get.

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   Posted 9/18/2013 9:05 PM (GMT -6)   
 Nothing to forgive. Your doing the best you can with what you got, I know. I hated going to see a doctor "They'll always find something wrong" used to be my thoughts right along with "If it ain't broke don't fix it". "Well it broke and dang near killed me" has became my new motto. My wife says I'm hard headed amongst other things. My Dad always told me hard heads sure make for soft butts, Simply put, Your gonna learn the hard way. Shame I never caught onto that earlier in life. smilewinkgrin  
 
 
 Ziff  
" Never try to teach a pig to sing , It wastes your time and annoys the pig . "

wantsinfo35
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   Posted 9/18/2013 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks I have to get mean with him sometimes.  Don't mean this in a bad way but most men are hard headed when it comes to their health

hep93
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   Posted 9/19/2013 1:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Wantsinfo, they should do a liver panel, kidney function tests, CBC with clotting factor and platelets, and perhaps an AFP. Just ask the doc if he plans to include those in his lab orders...that way, you are not telling him what to do.

Hugs,
Connie
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