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Simplesi687
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   Posted 7/24/2007 3:54 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi all

Almost a year ago now, I had a possible exposure to HCV during high risk unprotected sex, (Im a gay male). I had, and still have numerous symptoms, from severe blotchy red palms, blotchy rash on my torso, swollen glands, loose stools, pain on my right side and awful fatigue but insomnia despite. I have been to the doctor many times, and she has taken many tests, the latest being about a month ago, FBC, ESR, many more and liver function included came back normal.

I had a negative HCV and HIV eight months after the possible exposure, and am vaccinated against HBV so they refused to test for it.

My doctor says these symptoms are caused by stress but I find this difficult to believe. I have of course been worried, but not to such an extent that I can see it being the sloe cause of all these symptoms. Do you think that with these tests all being normal, Hepatitis or liver damage can be definitely ruled out?

I've just moved to Germany and feel anxious about going to see a doctor because of the language barrier, yet Im still feeling pretty ill, I desperately need some advice!

 

 


wheredidigo
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   Posted 7/24/2007 7:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I do suggest that you tell your dr that you want to be tested for HBV. I, too, was vaccinated against it and I contracted hep B from my husband, who did not know he had had it for 10 yrs or more. Fortunately my body kicked it and it did not go into chronic hep b, but the acute attack almost killed me. If the HBV test comes back negative, keep pushing your dr for answers. Something is causing these symptoms,,,,it could be stress related, as stress can do strange things if bottled up inside of you. Good luck with finding the answers.
Trish 
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hep93
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   Posted 7/24/2007 9:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Simple, I agree with Trish's suggestion. There are generally no symptoms with Hep C until one has had it for decades. Then the main symptom is fatigue. I was diagnosed with hep C in '93, but had contracted it in the late 60s. I developed liver cancer from the hep C, but had no pain until just prior to surgery.

Good luck to you, and please come back and post again!

Connie

ColoradoDoug
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   Posted 7/25/2007 7:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Simple
I agree with the others. If you had HCV, it would have showed up on your blood test. Also, there are generally no symptoms for years. HCV is a "silent killer" - in my case, I didn't know I had it until I was dx'd with cirrhosis from chronic HCV in 2002. I don't know when I contracted HCV, but it was probably 25 to 30 years ago. Your symptoms don't sound like any I've ever heard about as being associated with HCV; other than fatigue. And there could be any number of reasons for that.

Doug

Simplesi687
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   Posted 7/26/2007 1:13 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks for your replies, I am feeling a bit more relaxed about it now, but am still baffled as to what is causing all of these symptoms, the ones that concern me are the red hands....extremly red and blotchy, sometinmes a little painful, the same on my chest, and the fatigue, everything i read on these says liver!... If these symptoms were caused by cirrosis of the liver would all of my past blood tests been normal, i know you're not doctors, but an informed opinion would be great.Does the hep b shot always work? I am concerned about this and a little baffled at why they wouldnt test me for it. I mentioned in my last post that i ahd just moved to Germany, im trying to find a doctor to get a second opinion but its proving difficult at the moment. If it did turn out that i had HBV, do you think i would be able to handle the treatment and work? I have just started my dream job and dont want to have to give it up and move back home...

Once again, thanks for any advice you can give me!

Will let you know when i fifnally get to a doctor!


hep93
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   Posted 7/26/2007 5:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Simple, since you were vaccinated against Hep B, you will test positive for it...which is probably why they don't want to do the test.

Connie

wheredidigo
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   Posted 8/2/2007 9:33 AM (GMT -7)   
right connie, let me think how this goes,,,,,positive antigens mean you have been exposed(which can be because of vaccine) , positive surface antigens mean the virus is active,and antibodies mean that your body has fought it off and you have an immunity built up to the virus,,,,,,,I think this is how it goes! It was explained to me in detail by a dr( who i kept grilling for all the info i could),,,but its been almost 2 years and my brain doesnt work well sometimes lol Let us know what you find out,and hope you feel better soon
Trish 
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Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body,but rather to skid in sideways,chocolate in one hand,wine in the other,body used up ,totally worn out and screaming"WOOOOHOO WHAT A RIDE!!!"
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here, we might as well dance:)


hep93
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   Posted 8/3/2007 10:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Trish, that sounds right. I have the antibodies for B...and never even knew I had contracted it until I was tested. However, my immune system fought it off. The doctor said I could no longer get it or pass it on.

Connie

ryno
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   Posted 8/5/2007 10:00 PM (GMT -7)   
I can give you guys a quick short explanation of some HBV serologic tests. anti-HBS (surface antibody) presence indicates previous exposure to HBV, the virus is not present and cannot be transmitted, and that the pt is protected from future infections. This test can also indicate a vaccination. HBsAG (surface antigen) is an early indicator of HBV. If the Hep B surface antigen is present, the the pt can either be a carrier (virus is 'withdrawn' and not very active, if at all) or the virus is active, and can be transmitted to others. HBeAg (hep B e-antigen) is used to decipher the infectivity of a pt, and will not be present if the pt is a carrier (used to determine the case in a HBsAG-present pt) HBV DNA is used much in the same way as HBeAG, however this test is more sensitive, and elevated levels indicate a high level of contagiousness. Using these test, combined with others (depending on time scale and if the infection is acute or chronic), we can see what the virus is doing.

Hope all is well
MDchronie

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