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hopeinGod
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   Posted 2/12/2008 4:41 AM (GMT -7)   
I folks.  I'm new here.  I've been dealing with IBS-C for more years than I can count.  My age is 55.  What I do on a consistent basis is take digestive enzymes, and, when I remember, a probiotic.  Also, I either drink a laxative prescribed by my dr. or Citracel plain (the orange stuff causes me irritation after a few drinks).
 
As for my diet, it is very fat free.  Baked chicken, turkey and fish are my mainstays, with vegetables and fruits.  The veggies I eat most are peas and carrots -- which always reminds me of Forrest Gump's statement about "me and Jennie."  Greens, I am able to eat, but not too often.
 
I have found Heather Van Vorous' website helpful.  If you've not gone there, it's full of recipes and has a forum as well.  www.helpforibs.com  is where it's at.
 
Anyway...to my point.  I have always been underweight because it is so difficult for me to eat the foods that produce weight gain: avocados, coconut, salmon, sugary desserts (due to fibro, which I am also dealing with), red meats, protein drinks, and others.  I'm 5'11" and weigh a whopping 150 lbs. on a good day.
 
Any help on gaining weight would be welcomed.
Have a blessed day,
Dave

Keriamon
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   Posted 2/12/2008 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
When I was on a low-fat diet and complaining of sudden constipation, my mother, a nurse, informed me that a low-fat diet causes constipation.  So upping your fats may help both your weight and your constipation. 
 
Are there any healthy fats that you can eat?  Can you tolerate walnut, grapeseed and/or olive oil?  All are high in healthy fats and calories and you can cook meats and veggies in them.  I was just reading in a book on the French diet--which also mentions the Mediterranean one--that in some places in the Mediterranean, they actually take a tablespoon of straight olive oil as a form of daily medicine!  If you can do the oil and bread both, get some spices and dip your bread into it one or two meals a day.
 
All nuts are good fats (except coconut, which is saturated fat, like found in meat), and you can also get peanut or almond butter (with or without added sugar). 
 
Can you do dairy at all?  Fat from whole milk, cream, cheeses (watch out, though, cheese usually causes more consipation), ice cream, and yogurt all are considered good fats (to the French, at least).
 
If you can, try to eat dark meat poultry, as it contains more fat.
 
Definitely stay away from protein shakes and fake junk like that; we've had people come on here who actually develop IBS after getting on that stuff. 
 
My mother also has fibro.  One thing I was reading the other day is that when some people diagnosed with fibro quit consuming aspartame (Equal), their symptoms disappeared.  So no artifical sugars for you, of any kind.  My mother had a fibro doctor tell her to eat organic food, as there was something either in the dyes, preservatives, artifical ingredients, hormones or pesticides in regular food that seemed to aggrevate the fibro.  So she switched as best she could and indeed is better.  It's not totally gone, but she's not been laid up in bed unable to get out for a couple of years now. 
 
And lastly, while it may seem counter-intuitive, given that you want to gain weight, walk daily.  Several people with C on here swear by a daily walk/run for their constipation.  Yoga can also bring some relief (especially from gas), as can belly massage (I'm sure gutatasrophe will be on here soon to send you a link to where he learned how to do it; swears it helps him go).   

gutastrophe
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   Posted 2/12/2008 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   

Great post Keriamon.

BUT I'm a girl!  tongue

I also just started using flax seed oil to help lower my cholesterol.  I am told is also helps with regulating bm's.  I've only just started this but I will keep you posted.

Because I just found out my cholesterol is soooo high, I've had to cut down on fats as well.  BUT, olive oil, and all the other things Keri mentioned (with the exception of the dairy products) produce more good cholesterol and also help with keeping the colon lubed up.  I have trouble with greens as well - they produce a great deal of painful gas.  I've been trying to incorporate some of the gentler fiber foods like yams, butternut squash, oats and oat bran, etc.  Most importantly, I MUST drink copious amounts of water or else I can guarantee problems will arise.  Because I also take a laxative at least once a month, replacing the fluids lost during the "evacuation" process is very important.

Yes, belly massage for me is instrumental in making the guts move.  Getting the trapped gas "released" through deep massage and pressure usually stimulates a bm.  And like Keri said, some sort of exercise can also be beneficial.

For weight gain, grains and nuts can be helpful also.  Brown rice, barley, millet, quinoa, and a host of other high protein and high fiber grains will help with a myriad of issues.   I have to be careful, though, not to overload on too much fiber or I will end up with severe C.  A delicate balance is required at all times!


Keriamon
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   Posted 2/12/2008 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Oops. Sorry about that. Sometimes it's hard to keep sex straight when names are non-descript. Of course, I'm betting Spasman is a man!

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 2/12/2008 1:49 PM (GMT -7)   
That belly massage really works for gas, G. Did you know that unless you grind the flax seed daily it really doesn't do any good? Something about the oil doesn't get in the system adn that is what you want. Dr. Oz was talking about it but I had heard that some time ago. By the way the Gaviscon about a half hour after I eat is really helping with the severe gas and burping.

gutastrophe
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   Posted 2/12/2008 10:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Canyonbabe711 said...
That belly massage really works for gas, G. Did you know that unless you grind the flax seed daily it really doesn't do any good? Something about the oil doesn't get in the system adn that is what you want. Dr. Oz was talking about it but I had heard that some time ago. By the way the Gaviscon about a half hour after I eat is really helping with the severe gas and burping.
Does that apply to using it for cholesterol? 

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 2/12/2008 11:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, that is what he was talking about. It is the oil which is the part that deals with the cholesteral and he said you don't get that unless you grind only what you need that day which releases the oil. He didn't even mention it for anything else. He is a cardiac surgeon and said it was useless any other way. I know I had a nurse friend tell me the same thing a couple years ago but I don't use it.

gutastrophe
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   Posted 2/13/2008 9:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Canyonbabe711 said...
Yes, that is what he was talking about. It is the oil which is the part that deals with the cholesteral and he said you don't get that unless you grind only what you need that day which releases the oil. He didn't even mention it for anything else. He is a cardiac surgeon and said it was useless any other way. I know I had a nurse friend tell me the same thing a couple years ago but I don't use it.
That's great. sad   Just spent $10.00 on a worthless bottle of flax oil! 

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 2/13/2008 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
You just have the oil? He was talking about the flax seed that you need to grind to get the oil everyday. The grinding just releases the oil. He didn't say anything about the oil already in that form. I would guess that would be OK. It is just that people put the seed on their cereal or something and then swallow it that way. They need to grind it with a grinder or he said chew it to make it fine and release the oil which he said was hard to do. If you have the oil already I would think that was fine. fo for it!

gutastrophe
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   Posted 2/13/2008 11:37 PM (GMT -7)   

Yes, I have the oil!  In fact, this tiny little bottle cost 10.50! 

I was trying all day to figure out how I could extract oil from grinding flax seeds!  I've used the seeds before and have ground them myself but never noticed any oil coming from them! 

I've been using the oil to cook with and also dousing my cooked veggies with it!


Keriamon
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   Posted 2/14/2008 8:39 AM (GMT -7)   
My mother started taking flax seed oil for her cholesterol and her good went up and her bad went down and that's the only thing she changed, so I think it works for moderate needs.

I would think it would take a lot of seeds to make the oil (hence the high cost of the oil), so eating some seeds--even if you chew them well--would probably not be enough to make a difference.

gutastrophe
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   Posted 2/14/2008 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Glad we figured this out!

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 2/15/2008 1:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I, apparantly didn't make this clear. He didn't say you grind the seeds and take the oil out and take seperately. You grind the seeds because it releases the oil from the inside of the seed and I guess sticks to it and then you put the ground seeds on your cereal or whatever. also, he said when you cook with olive oil to put the oil on the steak or whatever instead of directly in the pan as you don't get the benefit of the oil as the heat will affect it.

Sarita
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   Posted 2/16/2008 1:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey dudettes,
Just a tidbit - flax seed oil comes in a pill supplement form. MUCH easier than grinding your own seeds, etc.

I was at the "vitamin store" the other day and was looking around at everything...it is amazing how much crapola is on the shelves. I mean, seriously, stuff that is completely and utterly bogus. But one thing that is absolutely not bogus are these "good" oils - monounsaturated fats. Borage oil, flax seed oil, fish oil, all wonderful.

Man, I should tell my biochemistry professor about this board, he is ALL about this stuff. He's taught us a lot.
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gutastrophe
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   Posted 2/16/2008 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Sarita said...
Hey dudettes,
Just a tidbit - flax seed oil comes in a pill supplement form. MUCH easier than grinding your own seeds, etc.

I was at the "vitamin store" the other day and was looking around at everything...it is amazing how much crapola is on the shelves. I mean, seriously, stuff that is completely and utterly bogus. But one thing that is absolutely not bogus are these "good" oils - monounsaturated fats. Borage oil, flax seed oil, fish oil, all wonderful.

Man, I should tell my biochemistry professor about this board, he is ALL about this stuff. He's taught us a lot.

Agreed.  SO MUCH STUFF!  God help you if you are unfamiliar or unsure of what you want and need when you walk into one of these stores.  It would be absolutely effortless to spend hundreds of dollars, especially if you ask any salesperson an innocent question. 
I am using the oil because if I have to take any more pills I think I will shoot myself!  And have you ever noticed that health "supplements" are always the size of a brazil nut and about as easy to swallow whole?  I get indigestion just taking all these pills!
My Greek husband taught me early on that oils (olive mostly) always go on the food after it's cooked so I usually douse everything before and after (veggies especially).
Sarita, I just wanted to thank you for the post you made on the heart forum on irregular heartbeat.  I found it very helpful and comforting!  Hope you are doing well!
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