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sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/1/2008 3:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I'm new to this forum.  I'm a female - 29 years old and have been in good health up until a couple months ago.
 
I've had diarrhea for two months.  Majority of my BM's are diarrhea or soft.  If - and I can probably count on one hand how many times I've had a firm or somewhat normal BM it's got mucous with it.  So gross!
 
I've lost 15lbs in the last two months - without trying.
 
Pain started out in my lower abdomen, right side, lower back.  For the past several weeks the pain has centralized in my right mid/lower quadrant.  The only time I experience pain in my lower abdomen is when I'm going to have diarrhea.  Diarrhea pain seems to be getting worse as well. No blood in stool.  Coloring is light brown/yellow.
 
*I had an ultrasound to look for gallstones - no gallstones.
*I had a HIDA scan to see if the gallbladder was working - it's working.
*I had a full blood panel - everything was normal.
*I had a CT scan on my abdomen/pelvic - still waiting on the results.  The nurse looked at it and said she only saw a small ovarian cyst on my left side - but it wasn't anything to worry about. Dr hadn't looked at the chart yet.
*I had a Colonoscopy yesterday - everything was normal except for a small polyp which was removed and will be tested over the next two weeks.
*I feel like there is actually "something" in my right side - where the discomfort is.
 
After the colonoscopy the Dr said it may be IBS - how long does an episode of IBS last?  I'm losing weight - granted I'm not objecting to this - but I also lethargic and for the most part I have to eat a bland diet.  Although - sometimes a bland diet doesn't work.  I tried to eat bran muffins - this only cause really painful gas pains. 
 
I'm feeling really frustrated and not sure what to do next?  Do I get a second opinion?  Do I try the high fiber diet my Dr suggested for a month to see if it's IBS?
 
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

puffed rice
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   Posted 5/1/2008 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   

sweetdreams , have you tried taking metamucil or some kind of fibre drink.  They work to bulk the stool and absorb the liquid from the intestine.  I found that they have helped me,  start with 1/2tsp and slowly increase your intake.  Make sure you drink plenty of water as well.

Probiotics are another great thing for the intestines.  You just need to find the one that works best for you.  They seem to help with the diahrea and help form the stools.  Both of these things will cause gas in the beginning but be patient the gas will go away once the body adjusts.

As far as a high fibre diet, well with my experiences with high fibre like bran I would almost feel like dying after eating high fibre.  The pain is so bad that I could hardly move, it did not help me, along with lettuce which is also painful once eaten.  Metamucil is a different fibre that seems to help not hurt. 

Good Luck.

 

 



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Keriamon
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   Posted 5/2/2008 8:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone ordered a stool sample to see if 1) you have excess bile (typically yellow) and 2) to check to see if you have a bad bacteria problem?

Also, did they look at your appendix with that ultrasound? They missed my dad's and it ended up rupturing, so if, at any time, the pain gets really bad, run to the ER. Ruptured appendixes are still life-threatening.

Also, has anyone done blood work to check for an infection (could indicate an infected appendix, for instance), and have you had your hormones checked? Ovarian cysts can cause pain and, funny enough, bowel problems. If you are getting cysts, you probably need hormone treatment (by way of some form of birth control) anyways, but it's real easy to get bowel problems when those hormones are just the least bit out of whack.

Sarita
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   Posted 5/2/2008 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi sweetdreams, I'm sorry to about your symptoms. It's good to hear that you've had some normal test results and I hope the biopsy on that polyp turns out how you'd expect (totally benign) - do you have a family history of colon cancer, polyposis, etc.?

Unintentional weight loss is one of the "red flag" signs that doctors don't really like to leave alone, so your doctor might very well keep working this up if you have continued weight loss. If he doesn't, I would encourage you to get a second opinion, at least so that you could get some peace of mind.
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sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/2/2008 12:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all for your responses.  Each time a test comes back negative - I feel like I'm going crazy or that I'm just imagining all this.  It's so frustrating and I feel as though the Dr's don't really care.
 
Sarita - I have two people in my family who had cancer, but their cancer was smoker related.  No other types of cancer in our family. No one has had any polyps either.  My grandmother had a colonoscopy recently and everything was fine. The Dr did say that since they found a polyp - I need to have this checked out every 5 years.  Fun fun!  The Dr still hasn't called me about my CT test results that I took on the 18th.  When I spoke to his receptionist she said he hadn't looked at them - she had briefly reviewed them and told me about the cyst.  My Dr has suggested a high fiber diet - so I'm going to work up to that.  I had tried eating a bran muffin a few weeks back and that gave me horrible gas pains. 
 
Keriamon - I haven't had a stool sample and they haven't checked to see if I have too much bad bacteria.  I had a full blood panel done - it was geared towards my immune system.  They checked for HIV, thyroid problems, celiac - everything was negative.  With the ultrasound they did not look at my appendix - they only looked at my gallbladder.  The CT scan was supposed to look at my appendix and my pelvic region.  I'm currently on a birth control pill.  I had a pap smear done fairly recently and the Dr didn't find any cysts - but maybe that can only be seen on a CT scan - but if she could have felt it I'm thinking it was really small.
 
Puffed Rice - I have been instructed by my Dr to try Citrucel for a month and I will be getting a probiotic. The Dr seems to think that I am constipated - but I'm not.  I have diarrhea and if it comes out someone solid - it's still soft or covered with nasty mucous.
 
Thank you again for your responses.  Oh - if I do have IBS is it something that happens overnight - because that is how it happened for me.  I've always been very regular with my BM's - never had problems eating food - and one day I was eating and 10 minutes later I was in horrible pain that was felt all over my body.  I didn't know if I was going to throw up or have diarrhea. 
 
 

gutastrophe
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   Posted 5/2/2008 10:55 PM (GMT -7)   
sweetdreams said...
 
Puffed Rice - I have been instructed by my Dr to try Citrucel for a month and I will be getting a probiotic. The Dr seems to think that I am constipated - but I'm not.  I have diarrhea and if it comes out someone solid - it's still soft or covered with nasty mucous.
 
Your doc may be right.  I too was having the type of bm's you describe and thought it was impossible that I might be c.  But a simple abdominal x-ray in the doc's office showed I was completely F.O.S.  Doc explained that with an impaction, soft undigested stool and mucous can slip around the old hardened fecal matter in the intestinal tract so you may think you are regular but you're not.  It certainly did explain many of my sypmtoms at the time and I use this as a barometer now to determine if I am getting severely "backed up" again.
My GI told me NOT to take fiber supplements like the one you mentioned because they typically extract so much moisture from the bowel and bulk the stool, consequently causing even more fullness in the bowel.  Maybe you could request a simple x-ray to determine if your gut is impacted?

hana24
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   Posted 5/5/2008 9:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Sweet dreams - I have the same pain as you! I have been freaking out a little bit because I have been having this pain on right side for a few months and I'm concerned it is something serious also. They did an ultrasound on my galbladder and complete blood work and urine sample. They said my liver and kidneys are working wonderfully. I have UC and they keep telling my the pain is from that but I haven't ever heard anyone with UC having pain there. My doctor thought it might be from IBS and just but me on meds for that but they are not working. I guess next step is a cat scan.

Im so sorry. It is very frustrating to not know what is wrong with you. Does your pain keep you from sleeping? Does it feel like your side is swollen? Are they sure you don't have a kidney stone?
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 5/5/2008 12:02 PM (GMT -7)   
For heaven sake, call the Doctor. That is inexcusable that you have not been called back. Go pick up a copy yourself. Have you lost weight because you are not eating or are you eating the same? You need the CT report. It may have gotten buried somewhere.

sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/5/2008 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Canyonbabe711 said...
For heaven sake, call the Doctor. That is inexcusable that you have not been called back. Go pick up a copy yourself. Have you lost weight because you are not eating or are you eating the same? You need the CT report. It may have gotten buried somewhere.
I called the Dr's office again on Friday - they said the Dr is behind on viewing his messages.  I figured if the pain worsens or I get a fever I'll head to the ER.  I've had to change what I'm eating - which is probably why I'm losing weight - along with the diarrhea.  I'm down 15lbs - it actually may be a few more pounds now.  But I'm definitely not trying to lose the weight. I'm not exercising because I've been too tired.  

sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/5/2008 2:57 PM (GMT -7)   
underthebus said...
Hi SD, and welcome! I too have the mucus, but I am horribly constipated, your right truely gross! I don't know what it is either, and probably won't be much help, other that to commiserate. As far as it happening overnight, I always had left pain right under my ribs, and then it progressively got worse. Can you remember what you ate that day? Not that it would still be food poisioning after two months still, but maybe a food that you still eat, that you might have an allergy to. Anyway, I wish you luck, also try not to stress, easier said than done, but anxiety also causes D. Keep getting tests done, it helps when they rule out all the serious stuff! Love and Luck-Delilah
      I ate McDonald's the day that it all first started - it was normal for me to eat out and I hadn't eaten anything out of the ordinary.  I'm trying not to stress out about it which is definitely easier said than done.  I'm gonna stick to what the Dr said to do - along with keeping a detailed food & pain diary (along with my own illustrations of my body and where the pain is) so that the Dr can review it if I'm still having this problem during the next 30 days.  Thanks for the encouragement!

sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/5/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   
hana24 said...

Im so sorry. It is very frustrating to not know what is wrong with you. Does your pain keep you from sleeping? Does it feel like your side is swollen? Are they sure you don't have a kidney stone?

When I visited my GI Dr for the first time he pressed right where my appendix is and it hurt so bad -and it didn't stop hurting for an entire week.  I asked the Dr to call in meds for me because I was having trouble sleeping.  He prescribed Vicodin.  I don't like Vicodin - I have so many nightmares when i take it - but I'd rather sleep.  Since that time the pain hasn't been that bad so I'm not taking the pain meds.  At times my right side (where the pain is) will be hotter than my other side and it seems like my right side is slightly more swollen then the other side.  The Dr didn't think it would be a kidney stone because I don't have any problems urinating.  I did have blood work done on my immune system - alone with a urinalysis. Everything was normal.  These days - I almost always feel like there is something in the right side of my body - certain times are worse than others.
 
There are times when I think that whatever is wrong just might be the beginning and that's why they (the Dr's) haven't been able to figure it out.  I'm thinking it's going to have to get worse before anything happens. So - next month if I'm still having this pain in my side I'm going to ask for another test on my gallbladder and appendix.  I've heard of people who had gall bladder problems but it wasn't until the third time their gallbladder was reviewed that the problem was figured out.  Of course I don't know their history and all the factors that could have contributed to the missed diagnosis during that time. 

hana24
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   Posted 5/5/2008 7:21 PM (GMT -7)   
It sounds alot like my pain. I've been using a heating pad alot which seems to help me. I take my Citalopram at night which helps me get to sleep but I wake up in a few hours and have to turn the heating pad back on. My side feels swollen also. The doctor said kidney stones are a sharp pain normally.

Keep us updated please and I will also in case they are the same thing.

Vicodin gives me bad dreams also...
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/6/2008 9:39 AM (GMT -7)   
hana24 said...
It sounds alot like my pain. I've been using a heating pad alot which seems to help me. I take my Citalopram at night which helps me get to sleep but I wake up in a few hours and have to turn the heating pad back on. My side feels swollen also. The doctor said kidney stones are a sharp pain normally.

Keep us updated please and I will also in case they are the same thing.

Vicodin gives me bad dreams also...

Nice to know I'm not the only one who has bad dreams with Vicodin.  :)  I'm not on any regular meds - the Dr hasn't prescribed any and I have not asked for any.  Personally - I'd like to try natural ways first.  If I have to have meds - then I'll get them. But for now - I'm eating things that I know won't upset my stomach and drinking lots of water!  I use a heating pad as well almost every night. 

hana24
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   Posted 5/6/2008 10:02 AM (GMT -7)   
My medicines are for Ulcerative Colitis not for the pain. Just so you know. And the Citalopram is for anxiety.
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/6/2008 10:15 AM (GMT -7)   
hana24 said...
My medicines are for Ulcerative Colitis not for the pain. Just so you know. And the Citalopram is for anxiety.

Gotcha - thanks for the info.  :)

hana24
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   Posted 5/9/2008 11:13 AM (GMT -7)   
How are you doing? I had my ct scan and upper scope and they came back normal. My pain has lessen to some degree. My doctor thinks it is my UC. Did you get your ct report yet?
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/9/2008 11:46 AM (GMT -7)   
hana24 said...
How are you doing? I had my ct scan and upper scope and they came back normal. My pain has lessen to some degree. My doctor thinks it is my UC. Did you get your ct report yet?

Hi,
I'm doing pretty good.  For the most part I've been sticking to the foods I know won't upset my stomach and things are ok.  I think I'm developing a "fear" of certain foods.  Things are not back to normal - and I still have the pain in my side.  My Dr has not called me about my CT results.  I'm glad your CT scan and scope came back normal.  It's always good when a test comes back normal - but there are times where you (or maybe it's just me) want a test to be abnormal - just so you can pinpoint your problem. I know I feel like that at times. What is UC?  I'm not very familiar with it.

hana24
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   Posted 5/9/2008 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
UC stands for Ulcerative Colitis. It is similar to Crohns disease. It is all the same symptoms of IBS only you often have blood in your stool. It is caused by imflamation in your colon. They can tell if you have it by a Colonoscopy. Crohns is similar but it can be anywhere in your digestive track. I am surprised that haven't tested you for that actually. I think they normally do what is called an upper GI series where they make you drink barium and they xray your small intestine.

I'm the same way with my tests. I don't want my doctor to just wright off my symptoms...
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


nsgrimm
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   Posted 5/9/2008 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Our stories sound so much alike it's not funny.  If you read the post I just posted it's almost word for word your post.  I'm 27 and am going through everything you are.  I keep having test after test and everything is normal.  They suggested yesterday that I try fiber too.
 
Hope we get some resolution!  If nothing else, you have someone here who is going through the same thing and understands!!

sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/9/2008 4:05 PM (GMT -7)   
hana24 said...
UC stands for Ulcerative Colitis. It is similar to Crohns disease. It is all the same symptoms of IBS only you often have blood in your stool. It is caused by imflamation in your colon. They can tell if you have it by a Colonoscopy. Crohns is similar but it can be anywhere in your digestive track. I am surprised that haven't tested you for that actually. I think they normally do what is called an upper GI series where they make you drink barium and they xray your small intestine.

I'm the same way with my tests. I don't want my doctor to just wright off my symptoms...

I had a colonoscopy last week - no crohns or UC.  It was pretty and pink.  :)  They found a polyp - which I'm sure will be fine.  But given my age and the fact that there is no colon cancer or colon polyps in my family medical history - I have to have a colonoscopy every 5 years.  The GI Dr didn't want to do an upper GI because I haven't experienced any pain in my upper abdomen and I haven't had any symptoms - like heartburn.  Did you ever have those symptoms - is that why they did an Upper GI on you?

sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/9/2008 4:08 PM (GMT -7)   
nsgrimm said...
Our stories sound so much alike it's not funny.  If you read the post I just posted it's almost word for word your post.  I'm 27 and am going through everything you are.  I keep having test after test and everything is normal.  They suggested yesterday that I try fiber too.
 
Hope we get some resolution!  If nothing else, you have someone here who is going through the same thing and understands!!
 Yes - it's nice to know there are others out there suffering like you.  Even though at times you feel very alone.  At times I think maybe I'm just crazy or psychosymatic about the whole thing.  But - I've gotten to the point where I'm done "testing" myself.  I'll go with the flow and see what the Dr's want to do.  If the pain ever gets really bad - I'll just go to the ER. Not sure if that's the right approach - but I feel like that's what I need to do right now. 
 
At least we can all hang in there together.  :)

hana24
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   Posted 5/9/2008 5:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I didn't have an upper GI I had an upper scope - like a colonoscopy for your stomach. They knock you out for it. I had it because I have acid reflux. Another pain I have....at least I know what it is though. I think it is from taking so much medication.
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


nsgrimm
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   Posted 5/9/2008 6:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I had an Upper GI and an Upper Scope, the one where they go into you small intestines and the one where they go into your stomach.  I think that's what they're called.  They did that on me because a lot of my pain is in my right upper quad.
 
I hope things get better for both of us.  I apprently told my dr while I was half out of it that I wasn't having any more tests done....lol  At a point you feel like a lab rat!  I am trying to start managing it by diet and exercise.

sweetdreams
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   Posted 5/13/2008 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Just an update....

As of yesterday my GI had not called me about my results from my CT scan. I had left him two messages - and a week later still no call. I spoke with my cousin - who has had a GI issue. He gave me the name of the GI he went to. I called their office to see if they take my insurance (I'm on an HMO) - so I just need a referral from my primary - which will only take a day.

So hopefully I will see this new Dr soon. I'll keep you all posted.

Keriamon
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   Posted 5/13/2008 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I've never heard of anyone with IBS hurting for a week after someone mashed on their intestines. I'm still worried about your appendix.
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