Gall Bladder Theory

How are your guts now versus how long was you GB bad?
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I had GB problems for a long time and I still have a lot of gut problems now that it's out - 66.7%
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I had GB problems for a long time, but now that it's out, I'm pratically normal again. - 0.0%
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I didn't have symptoms of a bad gall bladder for long (or at all) and now that it's out I'm still pretty well normal. - 0.0%
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I didn't have symptoms of a bad gall bladder for long (or at all), but now that it's out, I have problems all the time/worse problems than before. - 33.3%

 
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Keriamon
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   Posted 6/13/2008 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a theory.  The theory is this: the faster you have a bad gall bladder taken out, the better adjusted you are afterwards.  Just from talking to people, it seems a lot of people who get their GBs out soon after developing problems have less acid reflux, diarrhea and no-no foods than people who have had theirs taken out after years of problems.  I am wondering if the body recovers to normal easier when it's not been upset for long (by a dysfuntional gall bladder).  But when the digestive tract has been out of whack for ages, it has a new sense of what normal is--the same crappy service you were getting out of it while your gall bladder was bad. 
 
My gall bladder was bad 5 years and I have to take medicine every day to prevent diarrhea.  And since having it out, my list of no-no foods has actually expanded.  I now cannot tolerate any fruit juice, raw apples, and even 1% milk is starting to give me problems.  And I have to be careful about supplements; I have had problems with Vitamin C, garlic and fiber.  I have to be careful that I don't get more than 100% of my Vitamin C from food or drinks in the course of a day, and I can't get too much natural fiber; blue corn chips did me in one day. 

Post Edited (Keriamon) : 6/13/2008 9:32:12 AM (GMT-6)


Marsky
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   Posted 6/13/2008 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
You could be right Keriamon. My gall stones showed up on a cat scan, prior to my rectal cancer surgery. Just one of those routine pre-op tests my doctor ordered 3 weeks before my colon resection. about 2 years earlier I had also had a pelvic cat scan (not colon related) and when my colon doc looked at the second cat scan he said - "well, you still have your gall stones". I said - what? No one had told me I had gall stones (GYN ordered first cat scan). He asked if I had been having any GB attacks or trouble. No I said. I did tell him about severe heartburn (a few incidents where it felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest, but Gavisgon helped each time). He just nodded and predicted that if I didn't have my GB out, I'd end up with a full blown attack and be in the ER. So when it was decided I needed a major colon resection, they would take out my GB. I had laporoscopy to have it removed but I have no idea what it's like to recover from such a minimal invasive surgical approach because I was in severe pain from the 6 inch colon incision, having a temp ostomy, etc. I was a mess. But I did recover.

But I've never experienced the yellow bile diarrhea. Which seems to be characteristic of what you go thru.

Keriamon
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   Posted 6/13/2008 9:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, bile diarrhea is the big key. I would guess that your bowel problems are more from a lack of colon. BUT, the heartburn before was most likely a sign. See, my mother doesn't get D, but she has bad heartburn. My GI's NP said once that sometimes the bile goes up and sometimes it goes down. Do you still have heartburn problems a lot?

Marsky
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   Posted 6/13/2008 12:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Keriamon - the only time I ever experienced heartburn was during my pregnancies - 1987 and then 1990. But each time I didn't even need Rolaids, my husband would suggest one or two slice of bread, followed by a full glass of water. Also, walking up and down stairs helped relieve my heartburn. I mentioned it to my OB and he said the baby was probably pressing on something. Then oh about 7 or so years later, I started having heartburn. 1997 or 1999 (my cancer was diagnosed in 1999). But it was intermittent, not constant. Just a few times a year. I recall only several extreme bouts but never enough to go to the ER. The heartburn always passed. The best way I could describe was I could feel it getting worse, that's when I needed Gavisgon and also it felt like I had a huge weight on my chest. But again, this only happened 2 or 3 times, over several years. Later when they noticed the gallstones ("hundreds of them" I was told), they said I was a gall bladder attack waiting to happen. While under for colon surgery, it made sense to take it out. They also said something to the effect - you won't even miss your gall bladder.

Famous last words huh?

I've watched for the yellow bile D but I've never had it.

My mulitiple, daily bm's started right after my temporary ostomy takedown. And they've never stopped. Unless I stop eating. The best strategy I've found to be the most helpful is 6 very small meals a day, plain food, Colace each evening and to keep my stress level as low as possible. And to avoid all the foods that irritate me. Lately I've noticed that maybe 2 cups of yogurt a day might have been making my situation worse, not better (I was allergic to milk until the age of 3 but can tolerate small amounts of dairy). If I have ice cream I don't usually feel well later. I used to ignore all the stomach rumbling after eating yogurt, thinking the good outweighed the bad but I couldn't find my brand of yogurt while on vacation last week. So I just didn't eat it (and eat much of anything really). I ended up having 6 out of 7 great days! So now that's another elimination I've determined that for now, I need (no yogurt).

I've never experienced the severe heartburn I had prior to GB removal again. Once out, I never had it that bad again. Sometimes I get it but it's mostly just trapped air and a lot of belching. Which is very different than the chest pain I had.

Post Edited (Marsky) : 6/13/2008 1:10:09 PM (GMT-6)

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