IBS question...I feel like such a forum hopper lol

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   Posted 7/19/2008 2:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone. If you frequent any of the other forums I probably don't have to introduce myself since I'm slowly making my way through all of them lol. Anyway...here's my question...I'll try to keep it short and sweet.
 
Does anyone here feel that IBS is a diagnosis given when the docs have no clue what's wrong with you?
 
I ask this because I've been pretty sick for years and within the past month or two it's been severe. My main symptoms, that have to do with GI problems, are constant diarrhea, rectal bleeding sometimes really heavy, cramping, and other non-gi related symptoms...if you really want to know them all I can list them. So now I'm scheduled for a colonoscopy on July 31 due to the severe bleeding and diarrhea I've had and at my first visit with the GI doc he said it could be something like crohns or ulcerative colitis because of my history with autoimmune diseases and my symptoms. Then he goes, "if we don't find anything on the scope it could just be IBS". I've read the symptoms of IBS and I just don't know what to think. I feel that they would just be labeling me to label me, you know what I mean? I don't have constipation...some days I wish for it lol, I mean I'm in the bathroom now at least 5 times a day up to maybe 10 or more times. Before this I still had diarrhea, but it was more like only 3 or 4 times a day. To think I used to complain about that! Anyone care to weigh in? Thanks!
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Too many meds to list!


Dagger
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   Posted 7/19/2008 3:49 PM (GMT -7)   
IBS is Irritable Bowel Syndrome so it's not really a disease. It's a collection of symptoms. The doctors run a bunch of tests to rule out the things they can check for and/or treat. If they can't find anything, they call it IBS. This doesn't mean you are OK, it means they can't find anything with the tests they've run. You should have the tests and if they are fine, get a second opinion.

I'm not saying IBS isn't real. It stinks, it hurts, it greatly affects people's lives.

Good Luck!

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   Posted 7/19/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks for the reply dagger. I've seen a couple of times people talking about something called IBD. is that a different way to say IBS...is it related at all? just curious.
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Too many meds to list!


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   Posted 7/19/2008 4:29 PM (GMT -7)   
IBD = Inflammatory Bowel Disease = Crohn's & Ulcerative Colitis
IBS is not the same as IBD.

Everything Dagger mentioned is true... IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion. When docs can't find anything to explain your GI woes, they call it IBS. It sucks, but it's what we have to deal with daily. My doc put it in basic terms by saying "Your guts are just more sensitive than others's." Ya thanks! Now how do we fix it?


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Dagger
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   Posted 7/19/2008 5:02 PM (GMT -7)   
You can have IBD and IBS at the same time. I would think the IBD diagnosis would kinda cover the IBS symptoms but it doesn't. So you have all the tests, they actually find something; IBD, then they still stick you with IBS anyway.


For example, if Crohn's causes C or D, bleeding, and pain and IBS causes C or D, bleeding and pain, how do they know you have IBS?

My guess is that when they treat your Crohn's and you are in remission, if you still have any symptoms than it must be IBS. But if you are not in remission, how can they decide you have both?

I would love an explanation.

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   Posted 7/19/2008 6:35 PM (GMT -7)   
IBS symptoms do NOT include bleeding from internally unless you have an internal hemherroid.

If they cannot find inflammation through a scope alone, you need other upper GI tests done as crohns can often only affect the small intestines, or you could have microscopic colitis (aka; collagenous colitis).

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   Posted 7/19/2008 7:11 PM (GMT -7)   
ah...thank you 7lil for the explanation. I had no idea what IBD was. I'm still new to all these different abbrevations lol.

dagger...obviously I have no answer for you, but you bring up an interesting point.

pb4...that's what I thought...about the IBS not causing bleeding. I'll just have to wait and see what they find and go from there I guess. It's good to know all this stuff so when I talk to my GI I'm informed.
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Too many meds to list!


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   Posted 7/20/2008 12:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Also, as others may have mentioned, Chrons and IBD actually do show up on a colonscopy as inflammation in the colon.  With IBS, there is no signs of disease. 
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