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thirstyforchrist
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   Posted 7/26/2008 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I bought an all natural colon cleanse thing.  I dont really think I have IBS, I think I'm just lactose intolerent.  But my doctor didn't do any testing on me for IBS, he just said that I have it.  Anyway, saying that I do have it, is it safe or a good idea to do a colon cleanse.  I am D prone and I dont want to have it ever!  Lately though I have been very C and I'm scared I'm impacted.  I've gained 5 pounds from being so stopped up.  I took a laxitive but it didn't help much and made me feel very weak.  I'm hoping this cleanse will help.  What I bought is called "Genesis Today 4Total Cleanse.  Anyone know if this is a good idea?  Has anyone used this?  Thanks so much!
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   Posted 7/26/2008 12:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
 I am new here and I don't have any answers for you. But I just wanted to let you know I love your user name! I hope find the answers you want. Good luck!
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 7/26/2008 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a friend that used a colon cleanse for years and they could tell immediately when they did the colonscopy as the insides were all black obviously from one of the ingrediants. They said it wasn't harmful though.I think you should ask your doctor as to what to use. The hospitals use Dulcolax, not the stool softening kind but the other that make you go. I would think that there are plenty of laxatives like what are used for colonscopies that you know would be safe using. Why not try the Fleets Phospho soda bad as it is?

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   Posted 7/26/2008 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I would also be careful with colon cleanses. Check with your doctor first.

The Fleet's Phospho Soda wouldn't be so bad if you could eat the day you're taking it. When I combine the Fleet's with a liquid diet, I'm just a real mess. I am so used to starting my day with a light breakfast, when I can't, I start to feel nauseous and headachy. But if you were doing the Fleet's for a thorough clean out, I am guessing you could eat while taking it?

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   Posted 7/26/2008 6:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Please be careful with colon cleansing. They should only be used under medical supervision.
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   Posted 7/26/2008 10:29 PM (GMT -7)   
When I am doing my colonoscopy I can eat the whole day before up to dinner anything I want. For dinner I have to have liquids or actually they allowed potatoes this time as I remember. No dairy though so Idon't see where you couldn't have breakfast then a light lunch and do the Phospho. You probably would only need to do one for this.

thirstyforchrist
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   Posted 7/26/2008 10:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey everyone
I haven't heard of the Fleets stuff. Where do you get it? I talked to the woman at the Natural Health Food store where I bought the stuff. She said I shouldn't have any problems with it. She even looked it up for me. I am so desperate for a good cleaning out but I have a two year old and two jobs and I'm having a yardsale this weekend so I cant do anything that will make me sick. I get very nauseus when I have the D. I am also on Anxiety medicine, Paxil, and Buspar. Will it make that not work? I dont really want to ask my MD because he will think I'm just trying to lose weight. I really just want to feel better.
Oh and, the woman at the store said that she had people who came in after doing the cleanse I bought, and say that it cured their IBS. Is that even possible or is she just trying to make a sale?
Thanks for the advice! Also I would like to hear more about the soda stuff ya'll were talkin about. What are the side effects? Is it safe if I'm on meds? Anything you know will help.
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thirstyforchrist
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   Posted 7/26/2008 10:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Poco for the compliment. My user name is the story of my life. Literally. I cant go into detail here because of the religion rule but feel free to email me any time!
RAchel
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   Posted 7/26/2008 11:17 PM (GMT -7)   
When my colon was strictured in to 3 millimeter diameter from some disaster sigmoid removal surgery I had, my doc prescribed Colyte Bowel prep taken 8 oz glass every 15 mins, but just liquid diet like for a colonoscopy prep.) This melted poop and got it past my surgical stricture. (Seeing as my colon surgeon didn't deal with this stricture I had to do this 66 times before I found someone that would dilate the stricture) My point is, for you to do it once to get unplugged with presumably no anatomical problems, would probably be effective. As moderator said, ask your doc. Good luck, Rosemary

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   Posted 7/27/2008 4:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Please be very careful of anything a health food store would sell you, for a colon cleanse. Yes in theory, they're harmless and "good" for us, but I have to question the long term benefits of a colon cleanse. My wacky brother and his wife went on a 10 day fast 6 months or so ago. They drank water all day mixed with cayenne pepper or chili sauce. Something like that. They claimed they lost weight, their skin was clear, they had increased energy, etc. I just thought what they elected to do was extremely risky.

I would put this cleanse on your medicine shelf and call your doctor first and foremost.

The Fleet's Phospho Soda is sold over the counter in any pharmacy laxative/fiber aisle. It's a small 3 ounce bottle of clear (plain flavored or lemon lime flavored) liquid. You divide the 3 ounces into 2 doses, 1.5 ounces each, poured over a drink such as 7up and consumed. The two doses should be about 5 or more hours apart. You need to stay home, this medication will induce cramping and D. They will clean you out. Do no leave home.

But again, before even doing the Fleet's, I cannot recommend strongly enough, please call your doctor first.

Most of us that know about the Fleet's, are because we've been instructed to use it for our bowel preps for colonoscopies and surgical procedures.

Mary/Marsky

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   Posted 7/27/2008 7:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry to be so blunt here.... But, yes, I think the nutrition store clerk was just trying to make a sale. Nothing has been proven to "cure" IBS. If their customer was cured, then it wasn't IBS they had.

Again, I cannot stress this enough, please be careful with the cleanse. Check with your doctor.

As mentioned, PhosphoSoda is available in most drug stores. It is probably much safter than any colon cleanse you buy at a health food store. What's great about phospho is 1) MANY people have taken it for preps with no ill side effects, and 2) you can always speak to the pharmacist about it when you go to pick 1 up.

P.S. I didn't have cramping with the phospho. Just wanted to mention that in case it was a deterring tidbit - it doesn't cause cramping for everyone.
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thirstyforchrist
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   Posted 7/27/2008 9:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone. I am going to wait until my next appointment and ask my doc. I dont want to make anything any worse. I'm so glad that all of you are here to tell me the honest truth about it. Thanks again!
Rachel
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   Posted 7/28/2008 5:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, that's a huge relief to read Rachel. We don't want to frighten you but for many of us in this IBS camp, we've heard the medical profession strongly discourage us from colon cleanses. But walk into any health food store and mention IBS, and you'll be handed many products. The only reason I shop at a health food store is to purchase Flax-seed oil in liquid form and it's for my Golden Retriever's coat! I add a teaspoon full to her dry food twice a day. Once a clerk asked me what I was buying it for (Vet recommended it) and after I explained, she said I need to have it everyday too. But the last time I followed their advice, I paid for it - I got a Vitamin B shot at one of their Saturday afternoon clinics. Knowing I lose nutrients since I have IBS-D symptoms but the shot ended up giving me uncontrollable D for about 2 weeks. That was my one and only Vit-B shot! As far as those health food store clerks know, I have a normal colon, with no problems whatsoever! No way will I ever divulge what I go thru each day.......we have good friends who buy all sorts of herbs in pill form. If we're out socializing with them and it's late, meaning we want to go home, they say - oh here, pop this pill (some root form of an herb, I don't even know what kind!), it will give you energy! I just say - oh no, I know what will give me energy - a cup of coffee, a glass of water or going home and going to sleep! They know they've lost me when I reply with something like that....LOL I always say a prayer their kidneys, organs are healthy because you can easily overdo any of these natural products. To the point where you need medical attention.

Let us know what your doctor suggests for you.

Mary/Marsky

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   Posted 7/28/2008 9:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Mary, I can't believe they gave Vitamin shots at a health food store without a Doctors approval. That just shows how different we all are and how careful we have to be when people give us advice on something whether it be natural or prescription. I have almost died from "natural" products when I was a child so I am very wary of herbs, vitamins and prescription drugs.

Rachael, if you are still constipated I would call the Doctor. I called mine once when I hadn't gone for 4 days and he acted all put out but that was so rare for me. He told me to take the Dulcolax and if I wasn't cramping I would be fine. I was. I hd never called him before but I was feeling really full of it.

thirstyforchrist
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   Posted 7/29/2008 4:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks yall.
Can I ask, what would happen if I did do the cleanse? Yall all sound so scared. I just dont think a one time laxitive product is going to help me. When I do take a laxitive I dont even get it all out. And even though I have soft stools I still feel constipated. Can this be due to a hormone problem? I dont know what is wrong with me. I feel like my whole body and mind is rebelling against me! So aggrivated!
Thanks again all. Love to you all!
Rachel
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   Posted 7/29/2008 5:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Canyonbabe711 said...
Mary, I can't believe they gave Vitamin shots at a health food store without a Doctors approval. That just shows how different we all are and how careful we have to be when people give us advice on something whether it be natural or prescription. I have almost died from "natural" products when I was a child so I am very wary of herbs, vitamins and prescription drugs.

Rachael, if you are still constipated I would call the Doctor. I called mine once when I hadn't gone for 4 days and he acted all put out but that was so rare for me. He told me to take the Dulcolax and if I wasn't cramping I would be fine. I was. I hd never called him before but I was feeling really full of it.


They hold this clinic each Saturday, they hire a registered nurse to administer the shots and all seems to be above board. They take a lot of info before they give you the shot. You sign a document, etc. Similar to getting a flu shot at your local pharmacy in the Fall. But they asked me more info than for the flu shot if I recall correctly.

At the time I thought, oh what can it hurt? Right after my temp colostomy reversal surgery 9 years ago, etc. when I was literally living between my bathroom and bedroom, I started taking Centrum (sp?) daily vitamins, but in liquid form. They didn't mess me up, not as much as pill form did. Now I can take pill form. So I naturally assumed, I'd feel an energy surge from the Vit. B shot and overall, just feel better. Not have D come out of nowhere (not like now, I can usually predict when it will hit, 9 out of 10 times it's after a meal).

That was my one and only Vit. B shot experience! I do think we all need to be very careful from health food products that claim to do what medications a physician will prescribe or recommend OTC will do. There are so many holistic approaches/theories out there by now, you'd think if they were legit the medical profession would have endorsed or accepted some of them. Because they haven't, that should tell us all something - they are probably not good for us.

I would still check with your doctor Rachel. There are many types of bowel preps doctors use - pill form, Nu or Go-lightly, Fleet's Phospho Soda, Magnesium Citrate, etc. Explain in the past one didn't do a good job for you, your doctor would be able to suggest one that would.

Mary

Post Edited (Marsky) : 7/29/2008 6:36:25 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/29/2008 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow, I too can't believe someone was giving vitamin shots without running bloodwork to see if you were defecient in anything. Too much of some vitamins can be very bad for your health. And I would imagine that a shot is a lot more potent than a pill.

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   Posted 8/2/2008 12:00 AM (GMT -7)   
thirstyforchrist said...
Thanks yall.
Can I ask, what would happen if I did do the cleanse? Yall all sound so scared. I just dont think a one time laxitive product is going to help me. When I do take a laxitive I dont even get it all out. And even though I have soft stools I still feel constipated. Can this be due to a hormone problem? I dont know what is wrong with me. I feel like my whole body and mind is rebelling against me! So aggrivated!
Thanks again all. Love to you all!
Rachel

Rachel,
I used those products for years and I can assure you they are LESS effective (and have unknown side effects due to ZERO regulations) than your average $1.50 bottle of magnesium citrate. Those products are designed to get you dependent upon them, as they are suggested as a daily supplement. But do not be fooled - they are nothing more than laxatives - albeit with fancy names and expensive price tags.

If you've not had luck with the standard one dose laxative, you might try the mag citrate. In my case, after being dx with an impaction, it took a few tries to clear out the gut. My GI told me to take it once, every four days, until I felt emptied. It really works like a charm, IMO, and causes NO cramping or discomfort.

Best to you!

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   Posted 8/2/2008 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
The flu shot has been at last approved by the FDA. The vitamin shots have no regulation at all. I have never heard of such a thing.
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