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dissolvedgirl
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   Posted 10/29/2008 7:51 PM (GMT -7)   
My IBS is mostly under control right now, but i find no matter what i do i can't seem to find a way to get rid of the gas problem cry out of all the IBS symptoms this one is the most annoying, embarrassing, and hardest to fix for me. I have been taking fiber twice a day from Heather's IBS website, drinking fennel tea, taking probiotics. As far as food goes i'm not sure what my triggers are. It seem no matter what i eat it's all the same confused what i dont understand is why i'm still having a gas problem since the rest of my IBS symptoms have disappeared. does anyone have any advice on how to fix this problem??

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   Posted 10/29/2008 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I am in exactly the same boat as you!!! What is up with that? I don't get it. I take probiotics, I drink fennel tea, I mostly stay away from raw fruits & veggies, and only occasionally do I have beans. It doesn't matter what I do or don't do, I'm usually gassy.
I've just gotten used to it and learn to deal. It's a total inconvenience (and embarrassment!) but I'd rather have that than cramps + D.
Good luck to you.
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 10/29/2008 9:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Try the Digestive Advantage Gas pill, once a day. It has really helped me. Check out their website as they will usually send samples.

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   Posted 10/29/2008 11:23 PM (GMT -7)   
One word: simethicone. Works wonders!
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 10/30/2008 12:13 PM (GMT -7)   
My Dr. says Simethicone is best but it is best for getting rid of it rather than preventing it I have found.

dissolvedgirl
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   Posted 10/31/2008 2:26 PM (GMT -7)   
its really is horrible! and the most stubborn IBS symptoms it seems :/ i used to take simethicone a while back, i don't remember it helping much but i will try it again. (i was taking different medications for my IBS that wasn't working so maybe the simethicone will work this time around) i will try the digestive gas pills as well. right now im giving the Candida diet a shot, hoping that maybe that will help some. thanks for the advice and if anyone has even more suggestions feel free to add!

spasman
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   Posted 11/17/2008 3:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I found probiotics useless for me.
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redee2moov
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   Posted 11/17/2008 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh! Oh! Oh!, pick me! pick me! I know this one!

Okay, I know this is not always humorous, but I have been there big time and I could laugh about then and laugh even more now, because it is all but totally gone now (for about 9 months to be specific).

I was considered the gas king. I could clear out a pig barn with odor, or knock it over with "wind." Oh, the lovely family dining experiences where, even in the middle of winter, the car windows were usually down during the drive home. I would get odor nutrilizer perfume or charcoal filled cushions for Christmas presents. I could go on, but I know you can relate.

All of these are triggers to me:

Anything with air in it.

Frothy drinks, ice cream, soda pop

Crispy food like cold cereal and crackers

Fiber, especially dry types (granola, oatmeal, whole grain breads)

Sugar, sugar, sugar (gets the internal bacteria all gassy), refined, brown, raw, it doesn't matter. Even honey, but slightly less.

Of course beans, but also fruit, salads,

Foods with yeast in it (ever seen bread made? you put yeast in warm water, add a little sugar and immediately the bubbles start forming...and you would be amazed at how many foods have yeast in it)

Swallowing air from eating or drinking too much

Churning of the stomach from certain physical activity.

I think that is most of the general categories.

Basicly, at least for me, it is air directly ingested or food difficult to digest that makes it into the intestines and raise heck with the bacteria.

I now experience a little morning gas and maybe a a couple throughout the day, depending on circumstances. And odor only when too much sugar is involved.

I have a sort of sliding scale to adress what I may or may not eat, based on certain factors. The better condition my digestion is on a given day, the higher up the scale of digestive difficultly I may go with what I choose to eat. On the day when I know I'm not in top form I have my base diet that assures me heatlthy, enjoyable eating with NO gas reactions at all.

If you want to hear more about what I DO eat, just say, I'm happy to share.

smellymom
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   Posted 11/17/2008 6:15 PM (GMT -7)   
 
I would love to know what you do for that awful gas---My gas is so bad--and it happens all the time--i am so embarrassed at work--I was diagnosed with ibs about 16 years ago, but then it went away--now for the past few years--gas---awful awful gas...i was thinking celiac desease.--i eatyougut and take probiotics--but it happens when it decides to happen--any time any where----HELP confused

pb4
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   Posted 11/17/2008 11:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Try cinnamon, it's suppose to be a natural gas remedy...google it.

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redee2moov
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   Posted 11/18/2008 8:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I hope you or someone else finds some benefit from this.
 
 
The following in my "base" diet. I am able to eat much more than I could even a year ago with little or no gas reaction, but to maintain a healthy system I make sure I return to the "base"  and make it the greater percentage of my regular diet.
 
To minimize gas I eat things that tend to be the opposite of gas. Rather than dry, airy or light and bubly foods, I generally eat heavy, moist foods.
 
A typical day begins with me cooking all my meals for the day.
 
I start with my breakfast, which is a fairly concentrated protein drink. I won't share the recipe because it is one of the meals that would have caused a lot of gas for me several months ago, mostly because it is made in a blender (frothy drink) and contains a tablespoon of ground flax seed, a heaping teaspoon of psylium powder, and 900 mg apple pectin (all of these 3 fibers would have also messed me up several months ago). Part of what allows me to enjoy it now, aside from all the healing that has taken place in me, is all the oils in it (1 tb sp each olive oil, flax oil, cod liver D, coconut oil), it also include a probiotic (which like you, gave me lots of trouble several months ago as well). I also take it with a couple of betaine hydrochloride capsules, because we determine that I don't produce enough stomach acid (funny, my conventional doctor wanted to put me on Prilosec, beacause I have acid reflux, imagine the problem of having even less acid to help breakdown my foods). The drink does contain blueberries, a rotation od whey, soy, or pea protien, and almond or rice milk. I also warm it a bit before drinking. It is very good.
 
The rest of the meals are what really keeps my gut at ease.
 
I make four 10 oz meals for my day (larger meals mess with my acid reflux). They each include equal parts of one meat protein, usually chicken, duck, or fish, sometimes turkey, slow-cooked in advance (except the fish),so it is very tender. It is also medium to finely chopped to save me the trouble of chewing so long.
 
I add one vegetable per dish, usually a root (carrot, beets, turnips, etc) but also grn beans, asparagus, green onions, snap peas, okra.
 
To each I add 1 1/2 tb sp of white Basmati rice or coucous (a granular pasta)
 
I cook it slowly in about 10-12 oz of water until it has a stew like consistancy.
 
While cooking I add the digestive aides, spices! I don't use a recipe book, but there are plenty books for those uncomfortable with creating their own. My main spices, in varying combinations are Cinnamon, cloves, allspice, turmeric, cumin, cardamom, basil, tarragon, oregano, sage. I use a lot of fresh ginger, especially in the winter, and black pepper has lots of benefits, but I limit both of these as they are very warming and can increase my heartburn if eaten too often. I use most of the other spices in quantities of 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon per meal and will usually mix 2-4 of them into each meal.
 
Having avoided salt for a large portion of my life because the "health concerns", I now add a 1/4 teaspoon to each meal (and I am still less then the daily limit my doctor set for me by a full teaspoon).
 
Then there are the oils. All the years of eating healthy, avoiding fats, I did not understand the difference and was not getting sufficient oils in me (surprised my stool was so dry?). I now add 1-2 tbs (yes table spoons) to each meal mostly sesame oil, but also olive oil. Oh, I'll be going in for some test (for my wife's peace of mind), but I know when I feel sick and I know when I feel healthy, and I am feeling very healthy these days.
 
 
It takes about 45 minutes to prepare and cook the meals each morning (I use only fresh vegetables), but I benefit from slowing down my morning, instead of slamming down my cold cereal and flying out the door to take on my stressfilled day. These meal are very flavorful and have plenty of texture, so I have been able to sustain the discipline to make them my primary diet.
 
If I have a challenging day or week, where I had too many treats or ate out too many times, I simply comeback to my base for a few day and things straighten back out.
 
I continue to keep my sugar intake very low and having cleared myself of my yeast overload, I also limit my yeast type breads (probably the hardest change for me)
 
Other side notes or tidbits
 
 
Everything I do to maintain a healthy digestive system (thereby eliminating gas) focusses on improving the digestion process. Some people, usually high heat or acidic, can breakdown almost anything easily, on the down side they often deal with diarhea. My body type, generally considered thin, tends to produce insufficient heat to properly break down food, so I end up with gas and constipation. It is the undigested food particals that cause the most gas problem. So your refined sugars, your fibers, and certain fats, and poorly chewed food, make it through the stomach where acid is the primary ad cause all kinds of challenges for the bacteria in the instestines.
 
 
As I stated earlier I do take betaine Hydrochloride capsules (4-8 per day, depending on circumstances) this does benefit me when I eat more difficult foods.
 
Cooking the foods, the softer the better, aids the breakdown in the gut.
 
Avoiding things that shut down the digestive system, like cold foods, ice water, iced tea, ice cream. All those things will interupt the process. So drink room temp water, warm teas, limit your ice cream or follow it with some warm ginger tea, or sprinkle it with warming cinnamon spice
 
I couldn't eat oatmeal for years, now I simply sautee the rolled oats in a little sesame oil first, then cook it, and presto chango, I have no problem.
 
We make whole wheat pancakes (used to not be able to handle whole wheat), with buttermilk instead of regular, and sesame oil instead of shortening, no sugar (not needed for good pancakes). Tastes great, and if I eat them with some warmed applesauce or berry sauce with cinnamon instead of sugary syrup...no gas reactions whatsoever.
 
I almost forgot about Ghee (also known as clarified butter). It is butter with the milk solids removed, very easy on the gut, and great on the pancakes as well.
 
If I want some nuts, say almonds, I soak them overnight (already shelled), and pop them out of their skins. Their sweet and crunchy. Think of it. nuts have evolved to fend off decay, so they don't rot before spring comes. If you eat them raw, you better have a strong system to break through those prrotective mechanisms. Soaking them releases the ensymes that begin
the digestive process for you.
 
Any problems with salads? I enjoy several types of "warmed" salads. A little chopped meat, a heap of Romaine lettuce, a little olive oil, stir fried lightlly to wilt the lettuce (or pop it in the micro for 2 minutes), sprinkle on some seasoning and it is ready to enjoy, and easier to digest.
 
Going to miss the cool foods and drinks. The warmth of summer or a tropical climate opens the door to more cool options. Or even those days when you just feel warm, strong, and healthy. It your not there, you'll hear about it from your backside, but hope fully it will be a whisper and not a trumpet blair. :-)
 
 
I could go on but this is getting long. I do caution just anyone trying these things. This works well for me, your constitution may be very different.
 
I suggest reading The Ayurvedic Cookbook" by Amedrea Morningstar. It was the first book to point me in the direction I have landed and I'm so thankful for it.
 
I am proof you can resolve the bad gas challenges within months, good luck on your journey. I'll be watching for up dates
 

smellymom
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   Posted 11/19/2008 7:16 AM (GMT -7)   
wow thanks so much for all the info--I'm on my way !

redee2moov
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   Posted 11/20/2008 7:28 AM (GMT -7)   
your welcome ...and sorry for all the typos. Its always humorous rereading my stuff a day later, wrong words and incomplete sentences :-). If you need clarity on anything I will be watching this thread.

smellymom
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   Posted 11/20/2008 7:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I can relate to computer typing typos...Your diet is a lot of work but I am going to start out small--I am going to write down everything I eat to figure out exactly what is the culprit.I thought I had celiac desease ( could be a mild case) but not all breads cause a problem---never can I have a beer again---my gut ferments !!Peanut butter is a problem if I have more than say a tablespoon--- but gotta get rid of this !!!

redee2moov
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   Posted 11/20/2008 6:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Taking it slow is good. Mine was a quick route because I was being encouraged to have my gallbladder removed (tests showed I retained 60% bile, which supposedly was mostly sludge, no stones).

Being introduced to Ayurvedic medicine through the cookbook I recommended previously, I was lucky to find a fabulous practioner. She guided my diet change, but it is not far from the general concepts you'll find in the cookbook. And as I said before, I pretty much make up my own dishes.

So, I had gone to save my gallbladder, which I feel very certain I have accomplished (now over a year after my test), but since my doctor was concerned about my whole body, she cleared up my IBS, and my major gas problem, and with a yeast cleansing diet (that gave me the worse gas of my life) resolved a number of side issues. We are now focusing on reawaking my sleepy colon (from decades of constipation), and a couple of other related challenges. And, by the way, I was tested and did not have celiac either. I did have a yeast overload though.

Don't totally give into the idea that you can never enjoy some of those certain food again. My doctor gave me the okay, even encouraged it, as long as I was sensible about it.

On Halloween night I gobbled up a couple Reeses peanut butter cups and a couple of candy bars (formerly known as gas bombs). All I experienced that night was a little guilt. The next day I had a couple more Reeses (because I'm not always sensible), but still only experience a very small amount of gas.

So, take your time, check out the book (the best part about it is that it gives you some good direction to look for the foods that may be an issue for you), and think about that day when you can kick back in the lawn chair and enjoy beer with your friends. Cheers!

smellymom
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   Posted 11/20/2008 10:06 PM (GMT -7)   
ohhhhhhhhh a yeast overload diet sounds right up my alley !!!! tell me more ! yeah

redee2moov
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   Posted 12/1/2008 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
hello soon-to-be NOT smellymom

Took a bit of a break for the holiday (actually worked too much before and was sick all four days).

If you are looking for a yeast overload diet it consists of eating bread, if and whenever, you can. A big fat cinnamon role every morning, including weekends. Be sure to support all that yeast with as much sugar as you can whenever possible, throw in some wine or beer whenever it suits you, and in a matter of months, aside from the heathonic pleasure you'll experience, your body will ultimately rebel and start shutting down in all kinds of ways.

All joking aside, to turn things around from that excess is a commitment. If you're truly interested, I'll share what I have done (which was guided by a professonal), but I promise it was not easy.

Any activity in the gas elimination project?

smellymom
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   Posted 12/1/2008 6:07 PM (GMT -7)   
well I have found that staying away from as much yeast as possible really helps---and I think 9 grain bread causes problems--i have started taking probiotics--2 4 billion tablets daily---but I think yeast cleansing might be the ticket---I think I am actually fermenting !!!

Merri
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   Posted 12/20/2008 1:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I wake with gas EVERY morning. I have IBS more C than D although I usually go every day I go in small amounts so it's part of my life. I usually get the kind of gas that just sits there. Certain times of day it will happen again,( late afternoon, and sometimes at bedtime.) rolleyes I wonder if it has anything to do with empty stomach?? I know stress plays a part too although this business started up after G.B. surgery. My husband passed away suddenly this year so that certainly elevated my anxiety level  but as I said this popped up following the surgery so it's not all because I'm being hyper. I have found that the best tx is oatmeal in the morning and the Digestive Advantage pills. Anyone else have this kind of a situation? If I'm going somewhere I'll take an imodium before hand and then I'm really messed up for days ( and that's taking just one or even 1/2)

redee2moov
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   Posted 12/26/2008 9:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Happy Holidays to All,
 
Hope you are all surviving one of the more challenging times of the year for people with gastric issues.
 
If you've read my posts above, you know that I have eliminated a lifetime of major gas problems over the past year. For the sake of ongoing "study". this holiday season presented an opportunity to test my progress.
 
Work has been very stressfull with crazy hours, poor and insufficient sleep, and increased stress on the job, not too mention the holiday stress at home. This, as is typical for me under stress, results in poor discipline for my physical needs. My diet changes have suffered for this and in part because I was also curious to see at what point my gas problems would return.
 
The "junk" made a return to my diet and slowly increased until Christmas day. At first a piece of chocolate here or there, or an occasional cookie, had no ill effects, but as the frequency increased, (multiple forays to the gift baskets at work and the piles of home-baked goodies at home), the gas returned. First only occasionally and for the most part odorless. Christmas Eve it climaxed with the old discomforts, cramping and nausea, making their return in earnest, and the gas, while not pre-dietary-change levels, was definitely moving in that direction.
 
One thing I have not done, after my yeast cleansing last spring, was to eat very much yeast laiden foods, so at least at this time I would not attribute my current gas to yeast (however I do think it had a lot to do with my former gas problem). I would rate the biggest problem falling to sugar (not that I didn't know this before). Chocolate, will eventually cause more odor to my gas if I eat it beyond a certain quantity. Eating more difficult-to-digest meats and fats tested my digestion (which has faired better than expected) And, while it wasn't a gas issue, but as I suspected they would, my beloved jellied cranberries, almost like clock work, cramped me up about a 1/2 hour after dinner. Cranberries and pomegranate fruit are very astringent, so despite their current popularity for their antioxidant quality, are best avoided if you tend to experience cramping. A simple rule of thumb is, if they make your mouth pucker, they'll make your gut cramp.
 
Overall I feel very good that, despite the lapse in dietary discipline, I didn't fall to the previous levels of gas and the related problems. I know I can easily return to my gas free state, beginning today with more rest and some appropriate food. Hope you all can achieve this as well.
 
Cheers to a gas free New Year!
 
P.S. Regarding the morning gas (Merri). I believe 100 percent gas free is unrealistic. There will always be some air in the system (I have experienced that both stress and an empty stomach lend themselves to this), and there is no better time for elimination of it than in the morning after a restful restorative sleep. After experiencing what I have over the years, releasing one or two bubbles of odorless air first thing in the morning, is nothing, and actually seems very natural. For the gas that "just sits there" explore some Yoga style rotational poses (excercises that "twist" the trunk and abdominal region). I have found this to be a fabulous means by which to keep that gas moving, especially when some cramping begins. Good luck!
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