What causes IBS (D)

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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 11/9/2008 4:27 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm usually in Chronic Pain.
All this pain started with serious IBS ~ 8 years ago.
I spent A LOT of time on IBS Forum.
We left a town where I was terribly unhappy & went to a better place.
And now ... I have pain of one kind or another ALL the time.
Was the IBS the harbinger of what was to come?
I've heard of a woman who got a divorce and her IBS went away.
I don't think anyone can answer this, but I'll try.
I have IBS (C) now, but it is managable. (barely)
It's 3:30 AM and I'm awake because of it. That's bad. Huh?
Pam
shakehead

redee2moov
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   Posted 11/9/2008 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Pamela

Sorry to hear about your rough night, hopefully the day is proving better.

When you say pain of one kind or another, are you talking about a specific area (abdominal) or generally all over your body?

I've experienced IBS symptoms since I was a teenager (I am now 48). My pain over the years ranged from chronic discomfort to the other end of the spectrum, such as extreme acute pain (those times I was doubled over on the bathroom floor, shaking, sweating, and doing all I could to keep from screaming out loud).

The last couple of years, despite trying to live healthier, conditions worsened and other ailments began presenting themselves (arthritis, areas of numbness, heartburn, nausea, dizziness). A year ago I was told I needed my gallbladder removed. Not ready to let go of my body parts quite yet, I sought alternatives.

A long story short, I kept my gall bladder, and virtually eliminated all my abdominal pain (except of course when I do something stupid or life gets way out of control, but even then I only experience a very small version of what I used to and my response to it is far more relaxed). The other conditions I listed have either diminished or disappeared.

The cause of my condition coverered the full gammet from diet, physical activity, stress. So eliminating one cause could lesson my condition, but not totally (like the woman who cured her IBS by getting a divorce).

I can't say if IBS is causing the pain your experiencing, but I can say that focusing on my digestive system, what I eat and how I prepare what I eat, has resulted in major improvements to my health. Looking at my physical activity differently has also resulted in improvement. And without a doubt, addressing psychological challenges has added to the positive changes (this one has been the more difficult one for me).

Chronic pain to me, and in my case for that matter, means ongoing damage to the body. Stopping the damage (not masking the pain) and supporting the healing was the first step toward my improvement. Then tonifying and strengthening can take place to minimize recurrance. I am now in the strengthening phase and I am constantly amazed at the changes. Of course the acute pain episodes had to be addressed along the way (I've listed a few of those in a response on another thread in the forum).

The one thing worth mentioning as part of all the improvements is that I am not on conventional drugs of any type. Just a couple of natural supplements and minimal at that.

Hope this helps a little.

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 11/9/2008 11:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Redee:
Thank you for responding. I was in a real panic when I wrote.
My pain is from other conditiions now - However, IBS C is always with me.
The IBS (C) may be from Opiod medication.
When morning came, I found relief. (Coffee!) Thank the good lord!
There are so many people who are on a pain journey of one kind or another.
We iisten to each others wisdom and gain our support from forum people.
When IBS (D) took over my life ten-twelve years ago I had no one to turn to.
I didn't have a doctor.
I just thought I'd pass away quietly without going to the doctor. : - )
That went on for a couple of years until I went and got a diagnosis.
At that time it seemed like IBS wasn't well published.
I looked for books - Very little information.
There was no computer. Talk about suffering in silence!
Well, thank you for being there for me this morning.
I'm trying to straighten out my life and problems.
I'm trying to improve my diet.
Here I include my symptoms.
Pamela
MEDICAL CONDITIONS

Osteoarthritis all levels of spine right down to Coccyx,Spondilytis,Myofascial Pain
Fibromyalgia,Bulging Discs,Spinal Stenosis,Scoliosis,Osteopenia,Chronic Constipation
Carpel Tunel Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder,
Depression & Anxiety

Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.


redee2moov
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   Posted 11/9/2008 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Pam

Glad to hear things are better.

In your explorations, have you come across Ayurvedic medicine info?

Like everything, you need to take it for what may work for you. But, for me, it has been a godsend. Luckily I found an experienced practioner to boot, so I can't say enough good about it (at the risk of sounding over zealous, but I have experienced amazing healing so it it hard to not say something). My wife has now begun to see my doctor, and since we are very different body/personality types it will be interesting to see if she experiences as much improvement as I.

If your not at that "I don't want another book suggestion" phase, a couple books worth checking out are; "The Chemistry of Joy" by Henry Emmons, and "The Ayurvedic Cookbook" by Amadea Morningstar. I don't use any of the recipes from the book, but the general concepts they explain have changed the way I look at what I choose to eat, how I exercise, and more.

Just a friendly suggestion for you and anyone else out there still holding on to hope for some healing, or at the very least, some relief.

Hope your day continues to improve.

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 11/9/2008 1:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I have just barely heard of it off the tip of my ear, redee.

You will find Ms. Neckpain in the attic researching Ayurvedic. confused

yuckygut
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   Posted 11/12/2008 9:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Ayurvedic is an excellent way to go, one of the main spices in Ayurveda is turmeric, I have found an interesting drink called Haldi, (haldi4health is their web site)it is anti inflammatory, and based on conc. turmeric(curcumin), but it seems it is absorbed better in this drink form, anyway it has been a great help in my colitis, and my best friend here at the hospital swears by it for her IBS. But I would still follow up with your regular doc to help put everything together.

yuckygut

diagnosed with ulcerative colitis in 1998

drink 1 Haldi daily

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 11/14/2008 3:54 AM (GMT -7)   
How much does it cost?
PN
MEDICAL CONDITIONS

Osteoarthritis all levels of spine right down to Coccyx,Spondilytis,Myofascial Pain
Fibromyalgia,Bulging Discs,Spinal Stenosis,Scoliosis,Osteopenia,Chronic Constipation
Carpel Tunel Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder,
Depression & Anxiety

Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.


redee2moov
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Total Posts : 68
   Posted 11/15/2008 7:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi again Pamela

I have turmeric almost daily in at least one of the 5 small meals I have each day, it is very healing.

I don't use a recipe book, but most, not all, of my meals are about 10 ozs (more tends to result in acid reflux, because the stomach is simply too full). They include one or two vegetables,(mostly roots for me, but green bean, asparagus, and other fresh vegies are used). My grain is usually 1 1/2 tblsp of dry white Basmati rice or couscous, protien is 1/2 - 3/4 cup of chicken, duck or fish (sometimes turkey) slow cooked 'til tender in advance, then finely chopped (so I don't have to chew so much) and added to the dish. I use 1-2 tb sp of sesame oil or olive oil. I add a 1/4 tsp salt, and a blend of spices the I have learned work very well for me. they include turmeric, cardamom, cumin, cinnamon, cloves, allspice, basil, tarragon, oregano, ginger, black pepper (too much ginger or black pepper raises my acid reflux but are great for the colder months of the years), and a less common asafoetida (hing). Usually 2-3 spices per dish is enough and usually in quantities of 1/4 to 1/2 tsp each.

I throw everything into a small pot, with about 10 oz of water, and slow cook it on medium heat for about 1/2 hour, until it is like a stew. There is plenty of texture and plenty of flavor, and with about a dozen vegetable option, 3-4 meat varieties, and all thos spice option I have plenty of variety in my diet. I get lots of comments at work about how good things smell.

I've slowed down my morning to make this all possible. Gone are the day of jumping out of bed, slamming down a bowl of cold cereal and heading out the door. Now I prepare and cook all my meals for the day as part of the morning routine. I would have never thought I could do it (and it is still challenging on some days, but it truly put me in a healthier state of mind to take on my crazy, stressful job each day.

I drink room temperature water as much as possible, or some type of warm tea.

In the summer I do include more raw vegetables and fruit and cool drinks.

I don't totally avoid the things that could cause me issues, I just make sure they are few and far between, so I don't redamage things.

Obviously this diet works for me. If you are of a thinner constitution it may have some benefits for you, but average or heavier build people would not necessarily benefit from it. I experience much gas and constipation, this diet helps with that. If diarhea is a problem for some. this could actually aggavate it. Learn before you do and seek some expert advice when possible.

One more thing. These warm, heavy, most meals do wonders for anxiety.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

yuckygut
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   Posted 11/19/2008 10:59 PM (GMT -7)   
PN, I buy it by the case usually so I get free shipping, and I usually try to order it on special. I think it is usually more expensive at whole foods markets as well. I like the green tea with lemon flavor.

yuckygut
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