colonscopy advice for prep...PLEASE!!!

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momangel
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   Posted 1/26/2009 3:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello,
 
I would love any advice you all could give to make my colonoscopy prep easier, if there is such a thing.  I wanted to do it with the phosphate pills but there is a new warning that it may cause serious kidney damage.  That was my only hope.  I have a hard time tolerating nasty drinks.  Is there some way to make the drink more tolerable.  It is supposed to be cherry flavored but even my GI told me that it still was nasty. I am so afraid that I will vomit the whole time and defeat the purpose of the prep.Dr did give me a script for anti nausea med. to take before drinking. I realize that I need to just press through and suck it up, since it is better than not knowing what is going on in the ole gut.  They are looking to dx IBS.  Hopefully it is nothing worse.  Please help me if you can. I am scared.
 
Thank you and God Bless,
Carolyn

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   Posted 1/26/2009 4:46 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi momangel,

I don't know if this is a possiblity but when I had my colon removed this past summer (colectomy-for severe constipation:colonic inertia) my prep consisted of 4 ducolax followed by 1 bottle of miralax mixed with 64 oz of gatorade.  This prep worked pretty well but I was also using miralax 4x's a day, lactulose 4x's a day and amitiza 2 x's a day; before that any bowel prep I tried for any colonoscopy never worked; one stayed in my system for 10 days. 

Miralax has no taste so you really only have the taste of the gatorade.  It's worth asking your GI dr.

I wish you the best :-) .

Judy


momangel
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   Posted 1/26/2009 6:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Judy

Wow...you have been through allot! I really appreciate the suggestion. I will ask my GI.What is ducolax? Is it a liquid or pills? I know someone else that used miralax also. I am definitely going to inquire about this. The thing my GI knows how freaked out I am about the prep and I asked him if there was anything else he could suggest and he said no. I could definitely do the gatorade. Thanks again!

Carolyn

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   Posted 1/26/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Pico Salex is supposed to be the best, but I think its only avail in Canada, not sure where you are.

momangel
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   Posted 1/26/2009 6:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks K

What is Pico Salex? Is it the same type of process as with Miralax?

ka07722
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   Posted 1/26/2009 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
its an orange flavor drink, that tastes like tang apparently
Also, you have to drink a lot less of it

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   Posted 1/26/2009 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I drank the 6 small bottles of Fleet Phosphosoda and it wasn't so bad, nor did I have renal failure. But yes, there was a recent voluntary recall. The problem arose with people taking a higher and more frequent dosage than recommended. Also, kidney damage can occur if you already are prone to kidney trouble or are on any medication that can have a side effect of kidney damage.
Never the less, I'm not suggesting you use it... Just suggesting you do the research on all your options. This site is definitely a great resource. :-)
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momangel
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   Posted 1/26/2009 9:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I just did some reading up on the pico salex. K..is sounds like you are right about it. I just need to know where to get it. It is prescribed so I would have to get my GI to agree to it. I will definitely inquire. Thank you all for your help!

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 1/26/2009 10:55 PM (GMT -7)   
It is only available in Canada so not sure how you would get it here unless some pharmacy would ship it to you. I have take the Phospho soda 3 times as have all my friends with no problem. It is very high salt. I didn't hear that it was recalled but that there were some lawsuits and the attorneys are advertising for people that were damaged or died from it. I am not due for a couple years so hopefully they will have something new by then. Dulcolax are tablets that are frequently used for constipation. You have to get the Biscydol(sp) ones though as they have a couple different kinds. You can get them generically cheaper.

acscr9
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   Posted 1/27/2009 8:15 PM (GMT 0)   
I had a colonoscopy done over the summer and used the pills. It was tough drinking enough water, but I couldn't have imagined it any other way. I want to say there were six pills and I took some around 7 at night with a large amount of water and then i took one per 15 minutes or half hour or something. I am vague on details, but i hadn't heard a warning regarding the kidney problems.

Had you talked with your doctor about the pills, or just read about the kidney problems? I am sure there are disclaimers on everything, but so far, I have not had a problem. It is possible that they don't recommended using the pills if you have to have more than one of these done in a short amount of time or something.

Best of luck. The prep is the worst part. Liquid diet and for me, no red dye in food.
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momangel
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   Posted 1/27/2009 1:28 PM (GMT -7)   
I did discuss the pills with my GI. He is the one who told me of the warning about the pills. I then read an article that someone posted. It was released in December. My GI said that if I have the proceedure separate from my endoscopy I could do the pills if I wanted, but if I do both proceedures at the same time that he didn't recommend the pills because it could leave residue in the stomach which would interfere with the EGD. He offered me no other solution except for the gallon of nasty stuff. He also told me that there are about 30 pills to take. You took 6? What were they called and can you get them in the US? I have been searching for the Pico Salex but I think it might be a lost cause.

Thanks for your help!

Dagger
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   Posted 1/27/2009 4:53 PM (GMT -7)   
There is a company that used to be called E-Z-Em. They have another name now. Anyway, they make a product called Lo-So Prep. You drink one cup of liquid, it has an awful aftertaste but it's only one cup. You then take 4 pills 2 hours later. The next morning, you use a suppository. I've used it 6 times and it was WAY better than the gallon of stuff. You still have to drink a lot of liquid all day but it's clear liquid of your choice and you can spread it out.

You don't need a prescription to order it. It was about $5.00 plus shipping. I don't know how much shipping was because I always ordered it with their low-residue food kit that they discontinued.

To be honest, I don't know if they sell it anymore because they stopped making the Nutra-prep kit so I didn't even ask about the Lo-So prep.

Momangel, I took the pills described above before an EGD and had no problems but it may have been because this prep only requires 4 pills.

My last GI refused to do my tests if I didn't use his prep, he wouldn't even consider mine. I finally agreed to do his then I did mine anyway. His nasty nurse told me after the procedure that I should be glad I used their prep because I was so clean inside. I loved the expression on her face when I told her that I actually used my prep, not theirs. I don't recommend this but I knew my prep worked for me because I had used it 5 times before and had pictures to prove how clean I was.

momangel
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   Posted 1/27/2009 7:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for your help Dagger! I have allot to think about and I need to see if my GI will cooperate. I have actually contemplated doing it on my own also. I have read and heard enough to be able to figure out what I think would work for me. So thanks a million for sharing your experience.

Regards,
Carolyn

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   Posted 1/27/2009 8:29 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Carolyn,

The ducolax is in pill form.  My surgeon is the one who gave me my prep.  He is very current on things.  He gave me an epidural for pain control following my surgery which helps to not slow down the intestines after surgery.  He was also voted one of the nations top surgeons.  So it might be worth asking your GI about the ducolax/miralax prep...it was so easy to take smilewinkgrin .

I'll be thinking of you,

Judy


momangel
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   Posted 1/27/2009 8:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the advice Judy...Sounds like the Miralax is the way to go. Hope the GI agrees with me.

I will keep all posted with results.


Carolyn

Marburg
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   Posted 1/28/2009 9:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Momangel,

If you wind up having to drink the nasty stuff, (I have the same problem with drinking nasty stuff) drink it steadily. Do not drink a glass and wait 15 min. My GI doctor said the best way was to make sure the mixture was ice cold, and just start drinking and keep drinking until it was all gone.

Best
Marburg

momangel
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   Posted 1/28/2009 10:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Marburg

I will keep that in mind. Does it make you more sick if you wait after each glass?

Carolyn

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   Posted 1/28/2009 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Momangel,

Yes. It made me a lot more sick. I had to take the prep twice last year. When I drank a glass every 10-15 minutes I wound up vomiting after taking about half (even with the antinausea med). When I drank it steadily until gone I didn't have the issue.

Marburg

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   Posted 1/30/2009 10:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Everyone that I know that took the pills took tons of them. Never just 6. I hope by the time I have my next one that they will have something easier and safer than the Fleets since I am getting older and probably more at risk for the problems they are having.

momangel
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   Posted 2/18/2009 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   

Hello everyone

I just want to let you all know how my procedures went. Yesterday I had the 2 scopes done.  Had a small sessile polyp in the sigmoid colon. Benign. Everything else in the colon was fine. Thus...officially have IBS.  No congrats necessary! tongue Had a polyp removed from stomach, benign. Esophagitis caused by GERD.  Hiatal Hernia.  Allot to process, but relieved that it is not worse.  As for the prep...it was actually the best I could have asked for. I did the 2 dulcolax pills and then the Miralax in Gatorade.  It was the right decision for me.  Truly it had no taste at all, and only had to drink half the amount that the other terrible methods require.  I made it easier by doing a low reside diet and liquids for a day or 2 before the prep. That way there was not as much stool to evacuate. There was no pain, cramping, vomiting or anything else to make it miserable. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Right now, 1 day post op, I am not feeling very well. I have terrible pain in my left UQ.  I know that there is probably some trapped gas because there are some ungodly noises coming from that area.  But I also feel very sore. I have a call into the Dr. just to ask him what I should do. I understand that sometimes the recovery can take a few days, especially if there were biopsies and polyps removed. I did have biopsies in the stomach and esophagus.  But my pain is pretty much left sided.  Anyone have any comments on their experiences?  Also, when I got home for hospita I started sneezing, followed by full blown cold symptoms.  No warning signs that it was coming. Could the procedure, because of oxygen and invasion of the body, have stirred this up? Or is this just a coincident?

Thanks for your response!

Carolyn 


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   Posted 2/18/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
There should be no pain unless it is gas pain. Hope dr. calls you soon. I was told the biopsies cause not pain and if it was done again the next day that you couldn't even tell where they were. Just the blowing of the CO2 into you (not oxygen) I guess could cause a little sensitity but i have never heard of that. I would take something for the gas like Gas-x or even just Tums.

momangel
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   Posted 2/18/2009 7:47 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey there,

Thanks for your input.  I did speak with my GI. He said that it probably is gas and since I had 2 scopes the aggrivation and CO2 combined with the IBS is most likely causing the pain.  He said to take some GasX, but it hasn't fully helped yet.  I do feel like I have had  some relief, but I do feel like I have been bruised also. I have read where people take a few days to recover. I guess it is different for everyone. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day. I am just a little concerned. My friend had one done a couple weeks ago and she ended up in the hospital for 3 days with some kind of infection.Things happen. There are no guarantee's. There are always risks. I just pray that this is going to be okay. When I had my gallbladder out in Oct. the gas pain was horrible, but it was okay the next day.


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   Posted 2/22/2009 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Make up the mixture early in the morning and refrigerate it. The colder it is the better. Don't sip it, or drink it every 10-15 minutes that will only kick in the gag reflex. If you get any other mixture other than miralax and gatorade, I would drink it steadily through a straw until it was gone. I kid you not. The first time I had to do it, I gagged and vomited the entire contents--couldn't get any more down. So I had to do it over - with a new prescription. Don't drink anything with a lot of salt because that also made me nauseaous. What worked best for me was to keep drinking it and inbetween (like when you come out of the restroom) eat a popscicle or drink a glass of gatorade.

mzladyt
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   Posted 2/27/2009 1:08 PM (GMT -7)   
When I drank my prep yesterday I would drink it as fast as I could and then drink a sip of warm broth behind it. I also added crystal lite instead of the mixes that came with it. I think I will never look at lemonade the same way again !!!

Can someone tell me the difference between ulcerative proctitis and proctitis? I was told that I have proctitis and I'm trying to do some research before I go for my appt with the follow up.

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   Posted 2/28/2009 8:41 AM (GMT -7)   
mzladyt - going to bump this topic with your request for more info. You may consider starting a new topic to grab members' attention. I'm sorry I can't answer your question! One source I refer to a lot is WebMD. Try their website (.com that is).

So aren't you glad your colonoscopy is over now?

I always like the post-clean out colonoscopy phase. I am almost normal for about a week. LOL
Marsky/Mary's story.....
- Diagnosed with rectal cancer, April 1999 - Stage I, no treatment necessary
(5 hour colon resection: 90% sigmoid removed, 15 inches of colon removed, gall bladder removed, given temporary colostomy)
- Colostomy reversal, June 1999
- Left with IBS/D symptoms, multiple bm's every day
- On a low residue diet at least 75% of the time
- Takes Colace 50 mg each evening

All in all I do okay, I just use the bathroom A LOT! But I survived and beat cancer!

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