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saddaze
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   Posted 2/5/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -7)   
check to see if you suffer from endometriosis/ or even hormone imbalances.
 
this disorder causes A LOT of GI issues /adhesions that are in the wrong place in the bowel region
 
thats what im going to do.. 
 

Post Edited (saddaze) : 2/5/2009 4:39:25 PM (GMT-7)


LondonGirl22
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   Posted 2/5/2009 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Thats very true. I work in Gynaecology and a lot of patients often say that they have terrible bowel problems with their periods and a lot of time it can be linked.

Victoria x

 


Marburg
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   Posted 2/5/2009 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
My Obgyn said the same thing. She said the women who are menopausal will also often see their symptoms worsen for about 12-18 months. :-(

saddaze
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   Posted 2/5/2009 12:37 PM (GMT -7)   
i personally think its a tragedy in womens medicine how this disorder goes either underdiagnosed for a lot of GI problems and women are given GI meds that are not appropiate for their underlyning issue

and how there is not a lot of info about endometriosis -- like the scientific community ignores this major debilitating problem for women!

oh sure surgery - but it can return! nice -- hysterectomy sure but from what i read it can still occur?! and no one knows for sure why it hapens or how to really effectively stop it

its like a sea creature with no death! i mean, if men had endometriosis you better believe there would be a cure for this !
crazy

I think GI docs need to bone up on this problem for women who complain about constipation / diarrhea - ab pains etc... take a tally on their menses and give tests of the hormones *( i think both GI docs and Gynies need to be proactive togther about this problem being both specialties co exists with this prob)

thats my rant

saddaze
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   Posted 2/5/2009 12:42 PM (GMT -7)   
also - on a personal note;

my periods have always been mind numbingly painful and heavy - really heavy with big clots (sorry to be graphic)

to this day - it seems to be getting worse

younger - when I had my period my bowels would be really loose - no issues going
now at 34 im all gummed up and even my period doesnt move imy bowels - due to constipation i suspect im having IBS/GERD probs -
so im thinking it is ALL related!

endo = constipation=ibs=gerd///

so i would like to have surgery to get this checked out

right now im taking flax oil -- cause i hear its good for endometriosis -- but some websites say its bad

but at this point something needs to be done cause im not sure when I will have the time or resources to get surgically checked..

Marburg
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   Posted 2/5/2009 3:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I know what you mean. I also wonder if diveritiuculosis is related to IBS and GERD. I know I didn't have issues with constipation until after my hysterecomy last May. Since then, I've had a lot of Gas, GERD, and Constipation. I know GERD suffers often have a lot of gas. I just wonder if gas pain causes straining in the intestines resulting in diveriticulosis, etc.

And no one told me prior to my hysterecomy that my GERD, constipation, and gas would dramatically increase. Now, I'm hearing it's very common for up to the first 18 months because it may be hormone related.

Marburg

saddaze
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   Posted 2/5/2009 4:16 PM (GMT -7)   

whats interesting is that people ( some of course) say that hysterectomies are a god send as far as eliminating gerd and etc... its weird how one thing affects people in various ways

 

are you taking a hormone supplement to help with the balance?


saddaze
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   Posted 2/5/2009 4:22 PM (GMT -7)   
also diviculosis (sp) is due to constipation>? = ibs .the straining places stress on your colon and makes these pouches that become inflamed and infected. thats what i hear

in the end i think everything is related in its own frustrating way
- i just feel that womens issues are far more reaching than just common GI probs,, more women's health studies need to be done - thats for sure

Marsky
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   Posted 2/5/2009 5:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey all - how about uterine prolapse? I have one and my GYN is watching it. Haven't had a pap in a while so I should get into to see him. I know, I know, shouldn't put this off but our insurance is lousy. If he orders anything besides a Mammogram/path for the pap smear, they'll likely not cover it. But anyway, he claims if I have a hysterectomy my bowel issues wouldn't be bad. And I know that vaginal membrane separating it from the bowel wall is very thin too. The two are smack dab next to eachother! Why were we created this way? Sigh........I've put off surgery because well my 2 colon surgeries were very painful. I'm avoiding any surgery. But if the day ever comes and we have excellent insurance again, and I can take the time to fully recover from a hysterectomy, I may look into it. For now, I need to work and maintain things as they are.

But yes the two are very related. Men with IBS issues have NO IDEA what we all struggle with! I would say they are so lucky but then again they have IBS woes too. But at least their symptoms aren't as complicated as ours are.
Marsky/Mary's story.....
- Diagnosed with rectal cancer, April 1999 - Stage I, no treatment necessary
(5 hour colon resection: 90% sigmoid removed, 15 inches of colon removed, gall bladder removed, given temporary colostomy)
- Colostomy reversal, June 1999
- Left with IBS/D symptoms, multiple bm's every day
- On a low residue diet at least 75% of the time
- Takes Colace 50 mg each evening

All in all I do okay, I just use the bathroom A LOT! But I survived and beat cancer!


Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 2/5/2009 7:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Marsky,

I have vaginal prolapse & the other kind too. It's not in the realllly serious stage yet.
It's bothersome to say the least. I'm afraid of a colonoscopy.

You write,
"Hey all - how about uterine prolapse? I have one and my GYN is watching it."

That's the same thing my GYN is watching. You know, I think they should change
the chanel. There must be something better! (tee hee)

Pamela runs down the hall ....
MEDICAL CONDITIONS

Osteoarthritis all levels of spine right down to Coccyx,Spondilytis,Myofascial Pain
Fibromyalgia,Bulging Discs,Spinal Stenosis,Scoliosis,Osteopenia,Chronic Constipation
Carpel Tunel Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder,
Depression & Anxiety

Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.


Marsky
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   Posted 2/6/2009 5:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Pamela - ROT*****!

Yes they should change the channel. LOL Ah but in the old days they could talk both of us into major surgery, now couldn't they? My mom had a hysterectomy because things had "dropped". She had to be very, very careful post-op and vacuumed too soon. She said she felt something pull inside and regretted wanting to clean that day. She also said if I ever have one, I should do nothing. Well, she's also from the post-op "lie flat on your back for 10 days" group too.......her exact orders when she had her gall bladder removed, in the 70s. Can you imagine doing that now? They had me sitting up within 24-36 hours after both my colon surgeries.

So I take all of this into account. I sometimes just think doctors are cut happy. And surgery isn't always the answer. I also work part time in a school cafeteria (love the job but it's very physical). I would need to schedule this hysterectomy over a long summer break.

I also have a SIL who has a more severe uterine prolapse than mine. She says she has to put her uterus back up. Yikes! But in her case, she's had 2 close relatives have dire post-op complications, one bled out and died, the other had a massive stroke is now permanently disabled. She keeps telling her GYN doc - no surgery. She had 4 very large babies/deliveries - each baby over 10 pounds. All vaginal deliveries too. My girls were small in comparison, 7 and 7.10 lbs but both were vaginal deliveries. And I still haven't been the same down there since having had children. Couple my GYN dropped inards with multiple bm's, and wow, hip to hip, navel to rectum, I am nowhere near normal!

But I do a pretty good pretend sell in my head that I am normal. Because if I admitted it, flat out, I'd be depressed as all get out.

Sometimes denial helps......okay, now I am running from the room!

Just wanted to back you all up though, why all these organs are so closely located and give us so much trouble, is just NOT FAIR!
Marsky/Mary's story.....
- Diagnosed with rectal cancer, April 1999 - Stage I, no treatment necessary
(5 hour colon resection: 90% sigmoid removed, 15 inches of colon removed, gall bladder removed, given temporary colostomy)
- Colostomy reversal, June 1999
- Left with IBS/D symptoms, multiple bm's every day
- On a low residue diet at least 75% of the time
- Takes Colace 50 mg each evening

All in all I do okay, I just use the bathroom A LOT! But I survived and beat cancer!


Marburg
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   Posted 2/6/2009 1:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I know.  The hysterectomy support site I visit has a number of women on it who are complaining about GERD since their operation.  Very odd.
saddaze said...

whats interesting is that people ( some of course) say that hysterectomies are a god send as far as eliminating gerd and etc... its weird how one thing affects people in various ways

 

are you taking a hormone supplement to help with the balance?



Marburg
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   Posted 2/6/2009 1:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I know that diveritculosis (sp?) is usually caused by constipation.  In my case, I had constipation as a child, not as a teen or adult.  In my 30's they found that I had mild diveritculosis (no constipation) and now in my 50's it is moderate (no constipation until my hysterecomy last May).  What I do know, if all my adult life my previous doctor suspected GERD and IBS, I've had gas problems since gallbladder was removed and I have trouble passing the gas.  It feels like I'm straining to pass the gas.  So, my guess is that IBS can lead to diveritculosis all these stomach issues may in some way be related.  :-D
saddaze said...
also diviculosis (sp) is due to constipation>? = ibs .the straining places stress on your colon and makes these pouches that become inflamed and infected. thats what i hear

in the end i think everything is related in its own frustrating way
- i just feel that womens issues are far more reaching than just common GI probs,, more women's health studies need to be done - thats for sure

Marburg
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   Posted 2/6/2009 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Not a good candidate for hormone therapy.  My Obgyn says I have a huge family risk factors that put me at high risk for various problems if I take hormone therapy.  *Sigh*
saddaze said...

whats interesting is that people ( some of course) say that hysterectomies are a god send as far as eliminating gerd and etc... its weird how one thing affects people in various ways

 

are you taking a hormone supplement to help with the balance?



Marburg
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   Posted 2/6/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -7)   

Yes, things are very different today.  My hysterecomy was done with a DaVinci robot assist (it did most of the surgery).  The surgery was done at noon.  I was back in my room before 4pm.  I was up out of bed at 5am, walking around by 7am, went home at 2pm (22 hours after the surgery was completed).  I didn't take any pain meds until I was released to go home and they insisted I take 2 pain tablets for the ride home.  I had a total of 2 pain pills and 2 Tylenol over the weekend (surgery was done on Thursday). I was cleared to drive at 2 weeks, and asked when I wanted to go back to work at 4 weeks (went back to work at 6 weeks).

With my gallbladder surgery (nearly 20 years ago), I spent 4 days in the hospital, 7 days of bed rest at home, and then restrictions for 8 weeks.

Marburg

Marsky said...
Pamela - ROT*****!

Yes they should change the channel. LOL Ah but in the old days they could talk both of us into major surgery, now couldn't they? My mom had a hysterectomy because things had "dropped". She had to be very, very careful post-op and vacuumed too soon. She said she felt something pull inside and regretted wanting to clean that day. She also said if I ever have one, I should do nothing. Well, she's also from the post-op "lie flat on your back for 10 days" group too.......her exact orders when she had her gall bladder removed, in the 70s. Can you imagine doing that now? They had me sitting up within 24-36 hours after both my colon surgeries.

So I take all of this into account. I sometimes just think doctors are cut happy. And surgery isn't always the answer. I also work part time in a school cafeteria (love the job but it's very physical). I would need to schedule this hysterectomy over a long summer break.

I also have a SIL who has a more severe uterine prolapse than mine. She says she has to put her uterus back up. Yikes! But in her case, she's had 2 close relatives have dire post-op complications, one bled out and died, the other had a massive stroke is now permanently disabled. She keeps telling her GYN doc - no surgery. She had 4 very large babies/deliveries - each baby over 10 pounds. All vaginal deliveries too. My girls were small in comparison, 7 and 7.10 lbs but both were vaginal deliveries. And I still haven't been the same down there since having had children. Couple my GYN dropped inards with multiple bm's, and wow, hip to hip, navel to rectum, I am nowhere near normal!

But I do a pretty good pretend sell in my head that I am normal. Because if I admitted it, flat out, I'd be depressed as all get out.

Sometimes denial helps......okay, now I am running from the room!

Just wanted to back you all up though, why all these organs are so closely located and give us so much trouble, is just NOT FAIR!

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