Diarrhea Try Calcium Carbonate with your meals for control.

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lnape
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   Posted 2/18/2009 1:25 PM (GMT -7)   
This is what has helped me for more than 10 years with almost daily attacks of urgent diarrhea after having my Gall Bladder removed. Calcium is known to be constipating so if you are that IBS type do not take it. All calcium is not the same. Here is the what and how to take the calcium information if you suffer from diarrhea.

Calcium is an OTC supplement we all do not usually get enough of. No Rx is needed to purchase this.

When you take calcium about 40% of the dose gets to the bones the rest is eliminated in our waste. The calcium goes to the intestines and soaks up excess fluids and binds them together and they are gotten rid of in our waste.

This is a process that can be continued by taking the calcium carbonate on a daily basis thus giving a more formed BM.

There is calcium carbonate which helps us with diarrhea and there is calcium citrate which is more easily absorbed by the body and gets to the bones but is not as helpful in controlling diarrhea.

A lot of the calcium supplements contain a 2 to 1 ratio of calcium to magnesium. Magnesium is not helpful for us with diarrhea only causing more in most cases. So, do not purchase this combination. It will only make things worse. Also if you are taking a multi vitamin with magnesium this may be a source of some of the problem if you are having diarrhea. Also for me vitamin C and E seemed to cause me stomach upset.

The dose to take is different for everyone. I must take 3 a day one at each meal and it does not make a difference if I take it before during or after just take it regularly. Taking them at least 4 or 5 hours apart is also necessary so the calcium has time to go through the system and soak up excess bile and water. Sometimes, because of the long number of hours between dinner and breakfast it may be necessary to adjust your timing to taking one at bedtime with a small snack to get better results if you are a person who usually suffers from diarrhea in the mornings.

The most success has come from using any formula of calcium supplement that is like Caltrate 600 Plus with Vitamin D and Minerals in the purple and white box. This information is from the many users that have sent me emails and of the posters on the web site. I hope this will help anyone wishing to try it and I am always here to answer any questions for you. I have a lot of feed back form many users.

You must also have some testing done to be sure you are not dealing with anything more serious. This is most important.

There are other things to consider. If you take any other meds check the side effects and also check with the Doctor or Pharmacist to see if taking calcium will interfere with your other medications and how you might take them. I know if you take thyroid meds it is important not to take the calcium at the same time but maybe 4 hours apart. The calcium will soak up the thyroid medication and you will not be getting the benefit from it. You should also look at the side effects of any other meds you may be on this can contribute to the success or failure of using calcium to help to control your diarrhea. You may also consider if you are constipated and taking calcium this may be the reason for your constipation. You can most likely switch to another form of calcium to relieve this also.

The only side effect is at the beginning of taking the calcium, you may have some gas or indigestion but this usually goes away soon after taking a regular dose for a few days as your body adjusts to the added calcium.

Starting with 1/2 tablet doses with each meal will lessen this problem and it may be enough to control the diarrhea attacks without making you constipated.

Constipation can be a problem so be careful not to take too much. It is safe for most of us to take 1800 mg a day as long as your body processes calcium correctly and you do not have some underlying problem. Check with your Doctor.

I had my gall bladder removed in 1976 and from that time on I had suffered urgent attacks of diarrhea. Went through a lot of test but nothing else could be found. I took many of the meds for bowel spasms and cramps over the years but nothing ever seemed to help. I started to take a calcium supplement to help prevent bone loss in later years and from the first day I felt relief. I was pretty much a prisoner to the bathroom or had to go without eating to be able to leave the house.

I must take 1 tablet with each meal and the diarrhea does not come back if I miss taking it I get diarrhea. It is a trial and error situation to find the right amount that may help you.

The way it works is the calcium carbonate it a binder and when you take it only about 40% of the calcium gets to the bones and the rest is gotten rid of in our waste. During that process it gets to the intestines and soaks up excess bile and water and helps give a more solid BM. Now that you have no gall bladder the bile fluid goes directly into the intestines and causes irritation and diarrhea. The calcium carbonate soaks this up and no more diarrhea. It works great for a lot of us and you just have to take the calcium regularly and do not miss.

I started with Caltrate 600 Plus with vitamin D and minerals and it does seem to make a difference in the ingredients of calcium... This one seems to do the best job for most. You can buy other store brands of calcium with the same ingredients that work just as well but they need to have the same ingredients. I get Member's Mark Brand from Sam's Club you get 300 tablets for 8.99. Let me know if you need more help. You won't be sorry if you try it.

I suggest starting with 1/2 tablet with each meal at first this may be enough to control the diarrhea if not in a few days up the dose to 1 tablet with each meal or any combination there of. The side effect is constipation so if you feel it coming on just cut the dose. It is important to use a calcium that is as much alike as the Caltrate brand from the feedback I have gotten.

Let me list the ingredients:

Vitamin D 400 IU (The sunshine vitamin needed to help the body absorb calcium)

Calcium 500 or 600 MG (This should be calcium carbonate form) (Calcium is the most abundant mineral in the body. It is essential for maintaining strong bones and teeth. Calcium is vital to muscle and nerve function, blood clotting and metabolism.)

Magnesium 50 MG (No more than this amount because magnesium will cause you to have diarrhea but because calcium is constipating the magnesium helps to counter act that effect) (Magnesium is essential to build bones and is needed for muscle function, energy metabolism, trans-mission of nerve impulses and to make genetic material and protein.)

Zinc 7.5 MG (Zinc is necessary for some metabolic processes, normal growth and sexual development, and proper immune system functions.)

Copper 1 MG (Copper promotes iron absorption and is essential to red blood cells, connective tissue, fibers and skin pigmentation.)

Manganese 1.8 MG (Maganese plays an important role in metabolism and is also needed to build bones and tendons.)

Boron 250 MCG. (Improves calcium and magnesium retention. Similar improvements can also be seen in Vitamin D deficient post-menopausal females.)

There are other brands with the same ingredients so get something as close as you can. Then start with 1/2 tablet with each meal and in a few days if this is not enough to control your diarrhea then up the dose to 1 tablet with each meal. If you feel you are becoming constipated then cut back on the dose. You may have to stop the calcium completely then start back after you have a BM at a lower dose.

It has been working since the first day I started taking it July 1998 and as long as I take 3 a day (this is the amount I must take it may be different for you) I remain diarrhea free. No cramps, bloating or diarrhea.
The dose you take with each meal is not the dose that is helping you at that meal it is the prior ones that have time to works their way through you system to soak up excess bile and water in the intestines.

It also works for those of you who still have the gall bladder.

Take Care,

Linda

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Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


Mrae
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   Posted 4/8/2009 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
My Gi doctor wants me to take calcium tablets twice a day. I have IBS-D but how much is to much the tablets I have are1200 mg. I don't know if I should take that twice a day or just take half in the morning and half at night. I got the calcium carbonate vitasmart brand. I have been taken one a day for about a week and haven't seen any improvement. What would you suggest?

lnape
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   Posted 4/8/2009 5:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Let me ask check the bottle and see if the dose of 1200mg is equal to 2 pills. To get reilef for diarrhea you need to take the calcium at 3 different intervals over the day with food. You should start with 1/2 tablet 3 times a day for 3 days and see what happens. You can take 1800 mg to 2400mg safely if you process calcium normally.

You can email me if you like .

Linda
Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


Mrae
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   Posted 4/8/2009 9:44 PM (GMT -7)   
The bottle says one tablet is 1200mg so I will start with half at breakfas and at lunch and then again at dinner for a few days that will be a total of 1800mg a day and see how that works. That would probably be the safest to start. Thank you so much. I will let ya know how it works.

lnape
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   Posted 4/9/2009 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
You may get some gas and indigestion for the first few days this does go away. Is it calcium carbonate also this is important and check any other meds you are on to be sure it is okay to take calcium with them. Do not take vitamins.

Linda
Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


Mrae
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   Posted 4/9/2009 9:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes I did have gas today not to bad mainly this evening. I took 600mg at breakfast and was ok took another 600mg at lunch and felt sick to my stomach for about an hr or so but I took another 600mg after dinner and so far feel ok. Not sure why the one at lunch made me feel that. It is calcium carbonate. I heard that is the kind to help with diarrhea. I am on Colestipol but my doctor is the one that told me to start taking calcium he just didn't mention what type I just knew. I don't take any other vitamins at all. Has this helped you to where you don't have to take any other meds for your diarrhea?

lnape
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   Posted 4/10/2009 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
You may need to cut the dose a little until you get through the first few days. Only if you start to feel sick.

Linda
Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


Mrae
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   Posted 4/10/2009 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   

I have another question. I know I will have to find the calcium supplement that works for me by trial and error. My question is the one I take now is by Vitasmart Select  and from what I can tell it has Vitamin D 1000 IU and Calcium 1200 MG and thats all. I am assuming this will be ok or do I need to have something else in it to help. From what I understand it should work as long as it is calcium carbonate. Right?

Thanks so much for your help.


lnape
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   Posted 4/10/2009 12:11 PM (GMT -7)   
The one you have should work just fine but you may have some constipation problem because it is a 1200 mg tablet of calcium so you may need to break it in half. Your body can only process about 500 mg at once so 1/2 of your pill should work. Try to avoid acid foods and drinks for now too, and NO lettuce.

Linda
Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


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   Posted 4/13/2009 7:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Linda

Thanks so much for the rich information on Calcium provided by you. I would try this out. I am sure the information provided by you would help all the IBDrs and UCrs. Thanks once again.
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   Posted 4/13/2009 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
For uc too?
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lnape
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   Posted 4/13/2009 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I am available if anyone needs some help with the calcium so just email be if you like.

Linda
Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


Mrae
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   Posted 5/5/2009 3:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I have switched my calcium to a different brand because the one I was using doesn't seem to be helping that much. Does the brand make a difference or not. Also I was interested in why we shouldn't eat lettuce. I don't eat hardly at all but just curious. I am now on a gluten free diet per doc orders. My blood test came back that I had a slight wheat allergy. Hopefully this will help with my urgency/ diarrhea but its only been day 5 so we will see.

lnape
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   Posted 5/5/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Mrae,

The brand does not really matter I have found as long as it is calcium carbonate 600mg and Vitamin D 400IU.

Lettuce seems to be pretty harsh to digest and if you eat it out they put sulfites on it to keep it looking fresh and this cause problem for a lot of us.

Linda
Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


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   Posted 5/11/2009 3:26 PM (GMT -7)   
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Miki123
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   Posted 4/23/2012 4:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, im new here and just looking for some advise.
I have always had loose BM and the occasional bout of D, but in Aug of last year (2011) I had a really bad turn. I was running backwards and forwards to the toilet every 5 mins, was getting really bad stomach cramps and pains in my lower left of my stomach, felt constantly drained and tired, my bones and muscles ached all over and even passed out a few times.

I went to the GP and he ran some blood tests and stool samples and everything came back clear except a very low Vit D count. He then referred me off to a GI.

She ran a colonoscopy and took 12 biopsies which came back all clear, I've then had a Gastroscopy which has also come back clear but I'm still running backwards and forwards to the toilet with bile like BM.

I can eat Imodium/Loperamide like smarties and they don't seem to have any effect. The dr has tried me on mabeverine to stop the abdo pain which although it has eased slightly still doesn't stop them. He has also tried me on amitriptline and Ciralopram which are both anti- depressants but neither have had any effect.

Problem I have now is my SSP has stopped and I really need to get back to work but the D makes my job impossible as well as the commute.

I'm willing to try anything to get back to work and came across the calcium supp theory.

I have been out today and tried to find caltrate 600+ D but can't find it anywhere local. But I have gone into Asda and found their home brand and wonder if this is any good as the dosages of the ingredients aren't listed. All it says on the tub is:
Calcium Carbonate
Bulking agent (maltodextrin)
Magnesium serate
Sucrose
Acacia gum
Corn starc
Medium chain triglyceride
Cholecalciferol
Dl-alpha-tocopherol
Tricalcium phosphate

The only dosages on the pot say Vit D 5ug and calcium 800mg based on 2 tablets.

Sorry for the long post but can anyone advise me if these will work? As I really need to get back to work as my wife is disabled and it's only my wage that we have to live on and we have our second child due in 10 weeks so I need to be working to buy things.

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   Posted 3/5/2015 2:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I use 1200 mg with D Calcium Carbonate only because I can't find it without D. Different brands does make a difference. I use Natures Bounty, the one with the green cap and bottle. Works great. I take 2 a day. one in the morning and one before bed. Ive tried Natures sunshine but didn't help me at all. Could be a placebo thing but hey, the bounty works better. Maybe because its less absorbent than sunshines.

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   Posted 3/9/2015 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I've taken Caltrate Plus for my IBS-D for a number of years and it worked quite well controlling things. But recently I've developed something like gastroparesis and I started wondering if taking Calcium with meals is bad for digestion, since it probably neutralizes the acid. But it can really upset your stomach if you take it on an empty stomach. Anyone else notice that when taken with a meal, it slows digestion?

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   Posted 4/23/2015 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I have had IBS-D for the past 16 years. It has held me back from living a normal, care free life. I have tried as many things as I can including Imodium, aloe Vera juice, acidophilus tablets all with little or no effect!

I stumbled upon the calcium conversations and thought that this may be my final help, I have been taking up to 3 tablets a day for the past two weeks however I have felt very sick, and seem to be having more bm's (up to 5 a day) than usual. Can anyone offer any advice? The miracle has not happened!

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   Posted 4/27/2015 6:36 AM (GMT -7)   
I've found that Calcium can be irritating to the stomach. Can you take it with a few crackers? You don't want to take more than 1200 mg/day either. Are your stools looser than normal?

Scuff
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   Posted 4/27/2015 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
CathyA

Thank you for your reply. Yes I have found that I have had mor frequent bowel movements than normal whilst taking the Calcium, and the nausea, so much so that I have reduced my Calcium intake to one tablet a day, which doesn't really do anything for the diarrhoea!

Any suggestions??
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