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ditzi
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   Posted 8/16/2009 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone tried cleansing? 
 
A few of my friends have been doing cleanses lately and I was wondering if anyone who has IBS-D has tried it?  I kind of chuckled to myself when they were going on about how they feel great after doing a cleanse.  Heck, I have a colon cleanse practically everyday - or at least it seems that way to me!  And it's free!  lol  smilewinkgrin
 
 
 
 
 

Darn IBS
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   Posted 8/16/2009 10:33 AM (GMT -7)   
You are ssooo funny
I have been doing my homework on this wonderful "disease" and am currently doing a colon cleanse
This is not a few days here and a few days there cleanse it is a serious cleanse that totally might take me about 2-3 months to complete. All depends on how it goes. I am learning that it takes time to move thie "stuff" out as much as it took time to put it there. Knowledge is power
My friend is on this too and we both have been noticing a bit of a difference...all for the good, of course....I wont go into graphic details but I am glad it is sitting in the toilet and not in me

ditzi
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   Posted 8/16/2009 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   
That's great! I'm glad you're having success. :)

My biggest concern is that doing a cleanse will make the problems I'm having worse.

Anyone have any suggestions for a good first time cleanse?

Thanks in advance.

Darn IBS
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   Posted 8/16/2009 7:40 PM (GMT -7)   
I am doing a first time cleanse and I am having no issues
I have done a lot of research on this and if you like to contact me and I will fill you in on what I have learned puxiep@comcast.net

Post Edited (Darn IBS) : 8/16/2009 9:02:13 PM (GMT-6)


IBS Knowledge
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   Posted 8/17/2009 8:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Definitely educate your self. Sounds like the last post is on the right track
IBS is IBS whether it is A-C-D. The causes are the same

kreinhardt
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   Posted 8/18/2009 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I do have to say thanks to this site that I did order a colon cleansing and we will see how it goes it couldn't hurt

Darn IBS
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   Posted 8/21/2009 8:12 PM (GMT -7)   

I have been doing a cleanse for little more than a week now with Colonix and I actaully been drinking some milk with no problem. I can't believe that tongue Also, I can "feel" the movement in my small and large intestine. weird, sort of like giving birth again. I am so glad I have something that is working now and  I can kick myself for not doing it sooner. Will keep everyone informed on this as I expect to be doing this for about a total two months turn   It seems like the diahhrea and constipation are ceasing.


Keriamon
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   Posted 8/24/2009 10:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Colon cleanses are generally not recommended by GI doctors, and I would strongly advise against them if you have IBS-D. People with C can get some temporary relief from their symptoms, but I've never known anyone on here with C to do any sort of colon cleansing and be cured from constipation for good; the C always comes back when they get off it.

Some warnings about colon cleansing:

1) Colon cleansing (and this includes the laxatives prescribed prior to colonoscopies) can wipe out the good bacteria in your guts. The longer you cleanse, the more likely you are to seriously deplete the good bacteria in your guts. Without good bacteria, you can develop IBS symptoms, or make existing symptoms worse. You also leave your colon open to colonization by bad bacteria, which can make life much, much worse. Probiotics should be taken while doing anything like that, to try and keep up your good bacteria count.

2) Colon cleansing is just a euphamistic term for laxative. As with all laxatives, you have to be careful not to overuse them, or your colon will become dependent and you can set up serious (and permanent) constipation.

3) Any laxative can cause intestinal irritation. This shows up on a lot of people's colonoscopies after just one or two days of cleansing. The more often/longer you use them, the more likely you are to irritate the lining of your colon, which can cause IBS symptoms, or worse symptoms. Some people will be more prone to this than others, especially people who already have irritated intestines due to IBS or some form of colitis (and for that reason, people with colitis or Chron's shouldn't cleanse, except where necessary for medical testing). Calcium should be taken to try and combat this.

4) All laxatives can cause dehydration--the same as having diarrhea--and you must be careful to remain hydrated and drink more water than normal. Dehydration can cause constipation, headache, and other problems.

Poop does not get caked to the inside of your intestines like spaghetti sauce left in a pot overnight. The intestines are one, continuous smooth muscle, constantly undulating. They move kind of like a snake. And when was the last time you saw a snake with mud caked on it? Certainly hard stools can cause blockages--the muscle can't move them down the track--but that's not the same thing as it being stuck to the sides, and once something (like a laxative) has softened the stool up, it will move on through and nothing will be left behind.

As someone with D, there's no need for you to colon cleanse, because you're quite right that your colon gets flushed out regularly. Manys the time I've sat on the toilet with my intestines working and nothing coming out simply because there was nothing left in there to come out--not even water. And I've seen pictures from my colonoscopy after I had fasted and taken the prescribed laxatives--there was nothing in there. Clean as a whistle. So, to my mind, there's no difference between an herbal colon cleanser, GoLyghtly, or Correctol; if you take a lot of any of it and fast, you'll have empty intestines. Not that I know why anyone wants empty intestines, short of someone with chronic constipation. Mine have been empty more than once and it wasn't anything like a spiritual experience for me. Mainly I was just hungry because your digestive tract's not supposed to be empty; it's not natural. There's always supposed to be at least one meal somewhere in your GI tract; eating a new meal has a tendency to push an old one out. Thus why so many of us eat and then run to the bathroom!

Besides, nature already invented something that keeps your intestines cleared and working smoothly. It's called fiber. Soluable fiber for moisture, to keep your stools soft and flowing, and insoluable fiber to provide bulk so your muscles have something to work against. Something I've learned keeping a horse: fiber is a real necessity for the intestines. You can give a horse all the calories they need in to live from grain or some sort of liquid additive, but without insoluable fiber from grass, their intestines will sieze up and they will colic; without help or a return to normal food, they will die. Human bodies aren't nearly as sensitive as horses, but we likewise need fiber to keep our intestines working correctly; you can't keep your intestines empty all the time and not suffer consquences in the long run.

IBS Knowledge
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   Posted 8/25/2009 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Everything that I have posted is basically based on my own experience, I have no affiliation with any products and I find that most doctors do no recommend colon cleansing because they simply says it does not work without understanding the mechanics of it or simply they are not trained that way
 
Now, I am only talking about Colonix, not any of the others, as I do not have first hand experience with that nor do I think that a few days cleanse is going to cut it
To your questions:
 
1. When a colon is backed up as in IBS, you already have bad bacteria in your gut. In order to remove the bad bacteria you must get the colon moving to deplete this. Once that is moving you may take the probiotic, without the colon moving and taking the probiotic it causes more gas and more discomfort. Colonix has a probiotic Flora Protect on their program
 
2. The way non-organic laxatives stimulate bowl movement irritates intestinal muscles. Because of their use, the system made up of local tissues, muscles and nerves remain idle, which causes the degeneration of our intestines Laxative cause the emptying of the intestines without engaging the muscle tissue, which leads to weakening.  Weak intestinal muscles, in turn, cause chronic constipation.
Colonix has a herbal organic laxative called kleritea that does not dry out the intestines
 
3. Colonix program uses psyllium husk as the fiber and the kleri tea to push it along. Kleri tea does not have to be used all the time however this is used to push the fiber through.
 
4. Colonix recommends that you drink water during this process, without water, bowels are not hydrated and can not function properly, this is something that must always be done whether or not you do a cleanse
 
I dont want to get lengthy here, but I did have an issue with my colon that did affect my liver and my kidneys and I became knowledgable on how to help my self.  
During colon cleansing you eat normally you dont keep your colon empty, you must eat
 
I am deeply convinced that we should be our own advisor and doctor in many situations. We need to attain enough knowledge about the way our body functions to be capable of eliminating the causes of our illness and suffering
 
 
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Post Edited By Moderator (Judilyn) : 8/25/2009 11:14:24 AM (GMT-6)


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Keriamon
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   Posted 8/25/2009 8:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Just because something is a natural laxative doesn't mean it's okay for long-term use. Aloe vera is a natural, organic laxative, and GI doctors are now recommending that people do not use it as a laxative long-term. You're not as quick to build up a dependency on it as you are some of the stronger, chemical laxatives, but a dependency can happen eventually anyways.
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