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bunnybabe
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   Posted 9/22/2005 4:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Almost every post i have read someone suggests calcium.  How many mgs and what does it do for you?  Thanks!
 
 
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7Lil
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   Posted 9/22/2005 9:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi bunny, calcium is good for D. It binds your stool and gives it bulk. On the other hand, if you take too much it can constipate you. Here is a great post for you from Inape that gives details:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=26&m=213917

Keriamon
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   Posted 9/22/2005 10:01 AM (GMT -7)   
I think most everyone here on it takes the Caltrate 600 w/ Vitamin D (or the generic equivalent). I take two a day, but am about to up that to three since I'm messed up again because of diet and/or stress. Others here take three a day already. Basically it absorbs excess water in the bowels and keeps you from having diarrhea. That particular brand/ type has been recommended on the forum because of the magnesium/calcium balance. Other kinds of calcium pills may not work as well or not at all because of too much magnesium (which keeps normal people from getting constipated while taking it). This kind is supposed to have a low magnesium content, which allows it to act as a constipator (for those of us who need constipating). I have also read that calcium helps soothe the lining of the intestinal wall if it's inflamed and helps null out the acid in bile and keeps it from causing intestinal inflammation.

I would suggest starting off with two a day--which is the normal amount for people who are taking it for their bones--one in the morning and one in the evening. If it doesn't totally fix you, up it to three with another one at lunch. If you get constipated, take less. They're splitable, so you can take half pills if that's what it takes to achieve balance. I would ask a docotr before taking more than three, since I don't know if excess calcium might cause you problems. Most of the time your body will simply expel what it doesn't need in terms of vitamins, but that can make your kidneys and/or intestines work harder than they have to.

sick&tired
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   Posted 9/22/2005 9:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear BB,
I developed osteoporosis from IBS & I'm only in my 40's, but have had IBS for 8-1/2 yrs. Although I still take calcium pills, my condition required prescription medication. The most common drug Fosamax builds bone 2% a year whereas a new drug (daily injection) called Forteo builds bone 34% a yr. You need to have fratured several bones to be eligible to use it. I would suggest you ask your doctor if he/she thinks you should take a bone density test, or consult an endocronologist (perhaps you can speak w/someone @ Mayo). I only did the test because a friend did, & since I pretty much live on ice cream, chocolate milk & cheese, I never expected I have osteoporosis, which is in my spine. The good news is that I used to be petrified of needles--not any more! The bad news is that it can cause bone cancer. Bummer.
One other bit of advise from the endocronologist, the best absorption of vit. D is sunlight & I'm supposed to sit in the sun 20--30 mins. a day w/o protection.
Good luck,
Sick&Tired

Keriamon
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   Posted 9/23/2005 6:01 AM (GMT -7)   
There are some new studies out that show that we do NOT absorb calcium in sufficient amounts from dairy products. The countries with the highest incidences of osteoporosis are countries with high dairy consumption. Countries that do not consume dairy get their calcium from green leafy vegetables, which we can apparently absorb the calcium from.

Just a word of warning to those ladies relying on cheese and milk to save their bones...

AnnieCan
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   Posted 9/23/2005 10:51 PM (GMT -7)   
To add to the question-

I've been trying to up the amount of fiber I take through suppliments each meal.

I know there are some calcium/fiber supliments that are together. Any of them not suck? ;)

CathyA
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   Posted 9/24/2005 2:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Sick&tired...........I'm impressed that an endocrinologist (or any conventional doctor), would acknowledge the importance of sunlight! Where did you find him/her? I think in modern society, we have gotten so off-base with our eating, and just living in general. Sunlight is soooo important to all of us, and we seem to have forgotten that. Even in winter, we can get some sun even on cloudy days. But we don't spend enough time outside. I'm glad you brought the sun up!

sick&tired
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   Posted 9/24/2005 6:04 PM (GMT -7)   
cathya...Dr. Harriet Mogul is the head of the dept. @ Westchester Medical Center in Valhalla, NY; she had me read an article about a a book written by Dr. Michael F Holick called the UV Advantage; I was very impressed w/what he had to say, especially about the skin cancer hysteria brought on by cosmetics companies to benefit their sales of suntan products, anti-aging creams, etc. However, I couldn't find my copy of the article to give you the website address, so I did a google search & I found that he was fired from his post @ BU because of the book! (He's still continuing his research there apparently w/o a pay cut.) So, if you want a full overview, take a look @chetday.com/skincancersun.htm (there's no www @ the begining of this address)

lnape
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   Posted 9/25/2005 1:02 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah Here is the calcium information. I know it is a lot to take in but it may be will worth it to see if this simple solution can offer you the relief it has me and many others. You need to follow it as close as you can to get the best results. I know it sound too simple to work but it really does help a lot.

This is what has helped me for more than 7 years with almost daily attacks of urgent diarrhea after having my Gall Bladder removed. Calcium is known to be constipating so if you are that IBS type do not take it. All calcium is not the same. Here is the what and how to take the calcium information if you suffer from diarrhea.

Calcium is an OTC supplement we all do not usually get enough of. No Rx is needed to purchase this.

When you take calcium about 40% of the dose gets to the bones the rest is eliminated in our waste. The calcium goes to the intestines and soaks up excess fluids and binds them together and they are gotten rid of in our waste.

This is a process that can be continued by taking the calcium carbonate on a daily basis thus giving a more formed BM.

There is calcium carbonate which helps us with diarrhea and there is calcium citrate which is more easily absorbed by the body and gets to the bones but is not as helpful in controlling diarrhea.

A lot of the calcium supplements contain a 2 to 1 ratio of calcium to magnesium. Magnesium is not helpful for us with diarrhea only causing more in most cases. So, do not purchase this combination. It will only make things worse. Also if you are taking a multi vitamin with magnesium this may be a source of some of the problem if you are having diarrhea. Also for me vitamin A, C, and E seemed to cause me stomach upset. If you check this out your will see they too can cause diarrhea. It is better not to take a multi vitamin while trying to get the calcium to help.

The dose to take is different for everyone. I must take 3 a day one at each meal and it does not make a difference if I take it before during or after just take it regularly. Taking them at least 4 or 5 hours apart is also necessary so the calcium has time to go through the system and soak up excess bile and water. Sometimes, because of the long number of hours between dinner and breakfast it may be necessary to adjust your timing to taking one at bedtime with a small snack to get better results if you are a person who usually suffers from diarrhea in the mornings. I think the way it works is the dose you take prior helps with the current meal and the distress it may cause.

The most success has come from using any formula of calcium supplement that is like Caltrate 600 Plus with Vitamin D and Minerals in the purple and white box. This information is from the many users that have sent me emails and of the posters on the web sites I have dealt with. I hope this will help anyone wishing to try it and I am always here to answer any questions for you. I have a lot of feed back form many users.

You must also have some testing done to be sure you are not dealing with anything more serious. This is most important.

There are other things to consider. If you take any other meds check the side effects and also check with the Doctor or Pharmacist to see if taking calcium will interfere with your other medications and how you might take them. I know if you take thyroid meds it is important not to take the calcium at the same time but you can take the thyroid meds one hour before you take calcium or 4 hours after taking the calcium. The calcium will soak up the thyroid medication and you will not be getting the benefit from it. You should also look at the side effects of any other meds you may be on this can contribute to the success or failure of using calcium to help to control your diarrhea. You may also consider if you are constipated and taking calcium this may be the reason for your constipation. You can most likely switch to another form of calcium to relieve this also.

The only side effect is at the beginning of taking the calcium, you may have some gas or indigestion but this usually goes away soon after taking a regular dose for a few days as your body adjusts to the added calcium. For most it is about 3 days and it is important to start with the lower dose so you don't have the added distress and think the calcium is not helping but making you worse.

Starting with 1/2 tablet doses with each meal will lessen this problem and it may be enough to control the diarrhea attacks without making you constipated.

Constipation can be a problem so be careful not to take too much. It is safe for most of us to take 1800 mg a day as long as your body processes calcium correctly and you do not have some underlying problem. Check with your Doctor.

I had my gall bladder removed in 1976 and from that time on I had suffered urgent attacks of diarrhea. It is now known to me that is called Bile Salts Diarrhea. This happens to a good percent of people who have had their Gall Bladder Removed. I Went through a lot of test but nothing else could be found. I took many of the meds for bowel spasms and cramps over the years but nothing ever seemed to help. I started to take a calcium supplement to help prevent bone loss in later years and from the first day I felt relief. I was pretty much a prisoner to the bathroom or had to go without eating to be able to leave the house.

I must take 1 tablet with each meal and the diarrhea does not come back if I miss taking it I get diarrhea. It is a trial and error situation to find the right amount that may help you.

The way it works is the calcium carbonate it a binder and when you take it only about 40% of the calcium gets to the bones and the rest is gotten rid of in our waste. During that process it gets to the intestines and soaks up excess bile and water and helps give a more solid BM. Now that you have no gall bladder the bile fluid goes directly into the intestines and causes irritation and diarrhea. That burning yellowish color that you may see is the bile. The calcium carbonate soaks this up and no more diarrhea. It works great for a lot of us and you just have to take the calcium regularly and do not miss.

I started with Caltrate 600 Plus with vitamin D and minerals and it does seem to make a difference in the ingredients of calcium... This one seems to do the best job for most. You can buy other store brands of calcium with the same ingredients that work just as well but they need to have the same ingredients. I get Member's Mark Brand from Sam's Club you get 300 tablets for 8.99. I know Walgreens has their brand with the same ingredients and if you live in the UK Boots has been reported to have something similar. Let me know if you need more help. You won't be sorry if you try it.

I suggest starting with 1/2 tablet with each meal at first this may be enough to control the diarrhea if not in a few days up the dose to 1 tablet with each meal or any combination there of. The side effect is constipation so if you feel it coming on just stop taking it until you have a BM then start back on a lower dose. It is important to use a calcium that is as much alike as the Caltrate brand from the feedback I have gotten.

Let me list the ingredients:

Vitamin D 200 IU (The sunshine vitamin needed to help the body absorb calcium)

Calcium 500 or 600 MG (This should be calcium carbonate form) (Calcium is the most abundant mineral in the body. It is essential for maintaining strong bones and teeth. Calcium is vital to muscle and nerve function, blood clotting and metabolism.)

Magnesium 40 MG (No more than this amount because magnesium will cause you to have diarrhea but because calcium is constipating the magnesium helps to counter act that effect) (Magnesium is essential to build bones and is needed for muscle function, energy metabolism, trans-mission of nerve impulses and to make genetic material and protein.)

Zinc 7.5 MG (Zinc is necessary for some metabolic processes, normal growth and sexual development, and proper immune system functions.)

Copper 1 MG (Copper promotes iron absorption and is essential to red blood cells, connective tissue, fibers and skin pigmentation.)

Manganese 1.8 MG (Maganese plays an important role in metabolism and is also needed to build bones and tendons.)

Boron 250 MCG. (Improves calcium and magnesium retention. Similar improvements can also be seen in Vitamin D deficient post menopausal females.)

There are other brands with the same ingredients so get something as close as you can. Then start with 1/2 tablet with each meal and in a few days if this is not enough to control your diarrhea then up the dose to 1 tablet with each meal. If you feel you are becoming constipated then cut back on the dose. You may have to stop the calcium completely then start back after you have a BM at a lower dose.

It has been working since the first day I started taking it July 1998 and as long as I take 3 a day (this is the amount I must take it may be different for you) I remain diarrhea free. No cramps, bloating or diarrhea. No stomach noises, gas or pain. If I should happen to have a case of diarrhea for who knows what reason it is very short lived and not the pain involved like before and this I am sure happens to even normal people. It is usually a one shot deal and it is over.


The dose you take with each meal is not the dose that is helping you at that meal it is the prior ones that have time to works their way through you system to soak up excess bile and water in the intestines.

It also works for those of you who still have the gall bladder.

Take Care,

Linda

LNAPENTS@netscape.net


spielberg
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   Posted 10/9/2005 9:37 AM (GMT -7)   

Calicum Calicum it cured my mother after 15 years of craping her pants and and me having to clean the car no fancy labels Sams club generic is good.  especialy women seem to have a shortage of in their system it was a miracle after all those years in 4 days IB was cured.....get the book cures they don't want you to know about it is worth reading, Dr.'s made a lot of money off my mother no any more painfull exams or cramps.

for whats its worth I think God wants everybody to be healthy they just have to know what to do to get health and stay healthy.

Good Luck Folks


7Lil
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   Posted 10/9/2005 10:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello spielberg, welcome to HealingWell!
Thank you for sharing your story. I have that book "cures they don't want you to know about" but I haven't read it yet. When I bought it I had no idea it was going to read like a novel. Instead I thought it was going to list diseases/illnesses/problems/etc. and their cures; kind of like a dictionary. Now that you suggested it, I think I will surely read it when I get a chance.
Thank you and take care.
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lnape
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   Posted 10/9/2005 5:10 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been telling people about using calcium carbonate to control diarrhea for 7 years now and it really does work. If anyone wants to try it and has trouble getting it to work maybe I can help you. I wish I knew just how many people it has helped.

Linda


bunnybabe
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   Posted 10/9/2005 6:04 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks for the great info!

i heard the "cures" book was not good, that there was no actuall useful information just talking around subjects-- i am glad to hear the opposite from a reader. thanks.
--bunny
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?


lnape
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   Posted 10/10/2005 6:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Bunny,

I did not get the info from the cures book. Maybe they got the info from all the post I did on the IBS message boards over the last 7 years. I discovered it worked after starting the calcium to help me prevent bone loss and after 23 years of diarrhea it got better when I was on the calcium. I did some research and played around with the doseage and timing of it and have been able to keep control of all the daily diarrhea attacks I was having. It works great for me and many others.

Linda


bunnybabe
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   Posted 10/10/2005 8:06 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks linda!!!

sorry for the confusion, the "cure book" comment was to speilberg...

--bunny
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?

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