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sportsfanatic girl
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   Posted 10/19/2005 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
MY 12 1/2 YEAR OLD SON HAS BEEN COMPLAINING OF HIS STOMACH HURTING ALOT. IT HURTS REAL BAD IN THE MORNING AND SOMETIMES GETS BETTER AS THE DAY GOES BY. HE HAS HAD AN UPPER GI AND IT CAME BACK NORMAL. I HAD HIM TAKING BENTYL 4 TIMES A DAY FOR A FEW DAYS AND HE SAID IT DID NOT HELP. ALSO, HE WAS TAKING ZEGERID FOR A WEEK AND IT DID NOT HELP. I AM JUST SO LOST ON THIS. WHAT DOES ANYONE THINK?  THANKS!

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   Posted 10/19/2005 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi sports,
I remember you mentioning this the other day. Have you taken your son for any lower GI tests? Is he having D also? Its so upsetting when you have a child that goes through all of this. I really would push this doctor for more tests and let him know that the Bentyl isn't working.
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sportsfanatic girl
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   Posted 10/19/2005 7:48 AM (GMT -7)   
HE'S NOT HAVING A REAL PROBLEM WITH D. WHEN THE NURSE AT SCHOOL HAD HIM DO A PRESSURE POINT WHERE IT HURT, HE SAID IT MADE HIS STOMACH RELAX. SHE HAD HIM PUSH AT THAT POINT FOR AWHILE. I AM WONDERING IF IT IS A NERVOUS STOMACH. WHAT DO YOU THINK? HE SAID HIS STOMACH HURTS ALOT BY THE BELLY BUTTON. HE HAS NAUSEA WHEN HE WAKES UP AND ALOT OF GAS. I AM WONDERING IF A CHILD IS TENSE OR MAYBE DEPRESSED SOME IF THEY MIGHT GET THESE SYMPTOMS. THANKS!

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   Posted 10/19/2005 7:58 AM (GMT -7)   
How is his diet? Do you notice more problems when he eats certain foods? Gas does cause nausea and I have a problem with this in the morning also. It usually will go away after I have a glass of water... I still don't know why that is. If gas is the problem, you may want to have him cut down on "fizzy" foods and drinks... the stuff that causes the trapped gas and see if that helps a little.
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   Posted 10/19/2005 8:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I would also suggest having your son get up earlier so that he is not rushed in the morning. A lot of times people tend to want to sleep in and then rush to school/work and that puts a strain on the body. The gut reacts negatively and we are stuck in the bathroom. I heard somewhere that the way you start your day sets the tone for the rest of the day. I can see that... when I get up late and am rushed I tend to have a worse day then when I'm relaxed and taking my time.
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sportsfanatic girl
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   Posted 10/19/2005 8:09 AM (GMT -7)   
his diet is pretty good. he is allowed to only have one coke per day. he drinks juice and sprite the rest of the time. also, he's only allowed to have fast food one time a week. i have also been giving him tums every day. he did not go to school today. he felt real bad this am and now as the morning has passed, he seems better. he does not seem to have that much of an appetite. he has not lost weight.

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   Posted 10/19/2005 10:27 AM (GMT -7)   
He doesn't hurt in any particular spot, does he? You'll want to be on the lookout for appendicitis, which can cause nausea and, of course, pain (lower right quadrant pain). Gall bladders don't usually go bad in children that young, but they may if you have a strong family history and belong to an at-risk racial group (I have heard Native Americans have a high tendency to bad gall bladders).

While IBS can develop in young children, I think most people don't develop it until early adulthood (there are some here on this board who have had it since their teens, though). You may want to start with a therapist to see if he's literally worrying himself sick. There may be something going on that you have no idea about--a bully at school, a teacher that is disliked, social adjustment issues, learning problems. If stress is causing his problems, then getting them out into the open and working through them should help. If it doesn't help and/or there is no source of stress in his life, then it's solely medical (although stress will make medical problems worse). There's even an anti-depressant medicine (I don't know if it's approved for children, though) that helps some people's IBS symptoms, regardless of whether they are depressed or not. I was just reading the other day that there are a growing number of teens and pre-teens being treated for self-inflicted wounds. They get stressed and cut themselves as a way of releasing tension. Stress and depression can manifest itself in a number of ways, one of which is an upset stomach.

P.S. Sprite IS coke. Just because it doesn't contain caffeine doesn't mean it's any better for you. I always say it's the worst kind of cola because it's clear; that's just a trick to make you think it's good. It's full of sugar and empty calories and the carbonation can be very bad for people with gas/intestinal problems. If it helps settle his stomach when he's nauseated, then switch to a club soda which has the same carbonation without the sugar.

But if your son has gas problems, you really should ditch the Sprite AND the juice. Apple juice is particularly bad for most people with IBS. I can eat raw apples but the juice gives me gas, and I am one of the less sensitive people on the board. Switch him over to water. Almost no human being is allergic to water. Milk is okay in small doses if you are sure he's not lactose intolerant. If you want him to have the benefits of fruit, have him eat it cooked or raw and in small quantities. If he balks at plain water, then try herbal teas, or even kool-aid. Make it yourself and gradually lower the sugar you put into it so it's some better than colas. If he consumes a lot of fake sugars--especially sugar alcohols--cut those out. Sugar alcohols (found in anything labeled "sugar free") are bad for regular people and super bad for IBSers. And there are may people out there who can't tolerate Equal (aspartame) or Sweet N'Low (sacchrain). Splenda is still questionable because it's so new. Regular sugar in small doses, though, is better for you than any fake sugar and has less calories than high fructose corn syrup (found, I daresay, in Sprite as well as Coke).

And watch his "grease content." I found that I can tolerate the fats found in dairy, meat and oddball fruits and vegetables like avocados, olives and coconuts, but I can't handle grease well at all any more. I ate some potato chips for the first time in a few months this past weekend and woke up with it still sitting on my stomach several hours later and feeling "greasy." Anything deep fried is greasy. Anything pan fried in canola oil is greasy (although you can make it a bit better by doing as my grandmother does and blot fried chicken in paper towels). Potato chips are greasy. Most commercial crackers and cookies are greasy. Pizza is greasy, unless made from scratch. Bascially, if it has "partially hydrogenated oil" of just about any kind in it, it's greasy (soybean oil being better than canola or other vegetable oils). Don't try and get rid of everything all at once, though; try weaning him off a product (chips, for instance) once every week or two.,

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   Posted 10/19/2005 10:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow Keri, well said. Thanks for the 411.
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   Posted 10/19/2005 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi. Thought I'd respond to this post as I have a 14 year old going through the same thing. He's had pain around his belly button for about 5 years now and it's worse in the morning and most times seems to improve as the day goes on. He has also has a sbft but no lower GI workup. I also did the Tums thing and some kind of acid reducers and such but the bottom line is, nothing helped here either. Docs have suggested counselling but I don't think there is anything to counsel. He is generally a very open, happy kid.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to get to is that there is a condition called "chronic functional abdominal pain of childhood" where some kids just have this for no reason that is ever found. When I was a child I too had stomache aches for which no physical cause was found but I remember the pain.

You know your child the best. If you think he needs more testing, push for it. Let us know how you get along. Hope he feels better.
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   Posted 10/19/2005 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I didn't realize that many children got IBS until I read something Lil posted. I was bad about getting constipated when I was a child--a few times severely. But I don't know that I had IBS then, because I don't recall having gas pains or trigger foods. I guess it gets kind of dicey trying to figure out if someone's just naturally and normally a bit on the constipated side or if they have a "syndrome." I guess we don't know more about IBS in children because Drs rarely diagnose them with it. Maybe because they're still developing and it's hard to tell if they are going through a normal development or something else. Or maybe since children are naturally more sensitive to stress, Drs peg it on that instead of seeing it as a permanent illness.
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