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Bera
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   Posted 11/14/2005 3:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi. I'm new to the forum. I've been suffering from bloating, right abdominal pain, and loose stools for two months now. I've been through a battery of tests (not a colonoscopy yet...I'm scared) and nothing has turned up.
 
Three days ago I went to the movies and ate some popcorn. An hour later the diarrhea started and hasn't let up yet. What should I do? How long does it last? And does it sound like IBS? Since I haven't had a colonoscopy, I'm worried about everything from colon cancer to Crohns. No blood in stool but very green. Ugh.
 
Oh, a little about me. I'm 27, 5 ft tall and 100 lbs.

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   Posted 11/14/2005 3:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Bera, Welcome to HealingWell!
It seems as though you can have a number of things (IBS included). If your BM's are green I'm wondering about a gallbladder problem? I bet Keri could address that better (I'm sure she'll be around).
Anyway, have you tried good ol' Imodium? Or cutting back on some foods that might be irritating you (like fat or caffiene)?
Don't worry about a colonoscopy. The procedure isn't so bad, it is the prep that sucks. But even then, if you are used to D, then the worse part is drinking the mix. It really is the best way for your doc to see what is going on.
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Sarita
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   Posted 11/14/2005 3:58 PM (GMT -7)   

Welcome, Bera.  It could be IBS or any number of other issues that could be ruled out with a colonoscopy.  It's nothing to be afraid of, don't worry, just really annoying the night before the procedure!  What other tests have you had done?  Any other symptoms (weight loss, fever, etc.)?  How often are you running to the bathroom?

I wouldn't worry too much about the green BMs.  The color of our poop is not necessarily indicative of the problem unless it's red or black (indicating GI bleeding).  Sometimes bile acid can cause yellow diarrhea.  Eating salad or any other green foods can make it green!

Again, welcome to the forum...let us know how things progress for you.


Bera
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   Posted 11/14/2005 4:07 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks for the thoughts on the colonoscopy. What's better to have - colonoscopy or barium enema? I'm mainly afraid of the colonoscopy because I've never been put under. I've never taken a pill stronger than a tylenol. Should I request a stool sample test? None of my doctors have suggested it.

Anyway, I've had a pelvic and upper ultrasound and a long list of blood tests. All normal but a small ovarian cyst. I'm allergic to cat scan dye so can't do that.

The last three days, I've been going on average of ten times a day. Prior to that just once or twice. Usually loose stools but not diarrhea.

 

 

 


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   Posted 11/14/2005 4:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I cringe just thinking about a barium enema.... I have never had one but I have read about them. After already having a scope, and knowing it is not that bad, I would prefer the scope.
Yes, I think your doctors should have suggested a stool test. Sometimes they won't, however, if you have not traveled in the recent past.
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   Posted 11/14/2005 4:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Bera and Welcome :-) In my opinion, a colonoscopy is better because they can take biopsies and check for more things than a barium enema alone. Besides, a colonoscopy is a WAAAAAAAY easier procedure. I know what you mean about being afraid of a colonoscopy, they don't put you totally under though, they give you some medicine that puts you in a "twilight" sleep so you don't feel or remember anything. Trust me, I am scaredy queen and have had 2. Everybody will tell you that the worst part of a colonoscopy is the prep. This is the absolute truth. Best of luck at finding some answers.
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Keriamon
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   Posted 11/15/2005 8:55 AM (GMT -7)   
I was slated for a colonoscopy in the late summer because I suddenly developed pain and diarrhea. I really didn't want to have one because I had had one back when I had a bad gall bladder and it showed up absolutely nothing (because my colon wasn't my problem then). Of course having nothing but liquids all day and pooping all day and drinking that nasty junk they give you is not fun, but the most painful part was when they put my IV in and that's because I had a nurse barely older than me (and I was in college at the time) and she didn't know her you-know-what from a hole in the ground. If I had actually had a good nurse, someone like my mother, it wouldn't have hurt at all. The procedure itself didn't hurt because I was put under. I have heard some people say that they are sore afterwards because they have polyps removed, but I don't think most people have those anyways. All in all, the prep definitely was the worst part, and not because it was painful, but because it was tedious.

I ended up not having the second colonoscopy because I felt I had no reason to have one. I had no symptoms of Crohn's or UC and my pain, by the time I had actually gotten in to see a doctor, had subsided; I was left with nothing but daily diarrhea. I didn't want to have another pointless colonoscopy. Especially when my doctor refused to do bloodwork and a stool sample first. I was suspicious when she didn't want to do something less invasive first and that she was pretty sure that I had IBS but thought I need a colonoscopy anyways, despite not having any symptoms that would indicate something severe enough to show up. I heard dollar signs ringing up.

I went to my old G.I.'s office (he had a waiting list so long I had to see his Nurse Practitioner) for a second opinion a few weeks later, but by that time I had cleared myself up. Through info I got on this board, I started taking calcium supplements (Caltrate 600 w/ Vitamin D) and voila, no more diarrhea. When I talked to the N.P. about it, she said if it works, use it. And she felt like my bowel problems were probably a result of not having a gall bladder. That really upsets the balance of acids in your intestines. Too much bile leads to diarrhea and I've read that too little bile causes you not to digest fat properly and undigested fat leads to... you guessed it... diarrhea. So I take Welchol for the bile (prescription) and calcium (OTC) for the excess water from undigested fat and seem to be covered for about anything I eat. Except caffeine; a coke will give me diarrhea regardless of how much medicine I have beforehand. It messed my gall bladder too back when I had it.

mrmagoo
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   Posted 11/15/2005 10:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I feel your pain. I was scared out of my mind when I had my colonoscopy done, I had never been put under, and I didn't used to take pills at all, no pain killers no nothing, I was a rock, I just suffered through whatever it was.

Here is how mine worked, just to take away all the mistery. They give you a ton of crap that tastes like crap, and make you mix it with GingerAle, or at least they did me, wont ever drink that again, and all this stuff does is make you clean out. Note: Get the earliest possible appointment, I had mine at 11, which meant I had to be there at 9, I wish I had taken the 8, which meant being there at 6am.

The took me in, hooked me into some O2, and an IV (I hate needles). They monitor your vitals, and take some blood, just to make sure you aren't going to freak out, and they take you pressure just to check. Then they wheel you back, hopefully ontime, not an hour late like me :). You go into a room that looks a bit odd, with a 50 graden hose with a camera on it, and a big TV hanging from the ceiling. My nutty nurse was listening and dancing to christmas music why we waited on the Dr. So the doc comes in, askes a few questions, helps to position me, asks some more questions, and then shakes his head at the nurse; then I wake up an hour later. The thing is the medicine they gave me never put me under, its close, but not quite. It puts you in a state of cooperation they told me, and gives you an hours worth of amneisia (sp?).

My wife then took me home, laughing at my gas issues. I woke up about 7 that night on the couch freeked out cause I didn't remember how I got home.

At no time was I ever in pain, or anything. The procedure itself was the simplest thing I have ever had to do, the preperation and days prior are what suck majorly. Dont plan on going to work :)


And on a side note, it does sound like your gallbladder, especially if greasy foods like the popcorn set you off. I have had a few friends that have had the same issue, and it turned out to be their gallbladder, so you might have them give you a cat scan and see what they find :)

Good luck.

Bera
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   Posted 11/15/2005 10:30 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks for all the great feedback. You've certainly made the procedure seem less scary.

I did have an ultrasound and blood work for gallstones. All look good there.

I also saw a gastro doctor about a week ago. He ordered a colonoscopy but I cancelled it. Frankly, the guy freaked me out. He poked my stomach a couple times and asked a few questions. Then said, "Okay, we'll do a colonoscopy because it's my speciality." Then he preceded to tell me that most young women don't go sleep during the procedure so I may remember some of it.

Anywho, I called my regular doctor today who recommended another gastro doctor. I'll call him today.

In the meantime, I am trying to do something about the diarrhea. Call me a freak, but I'm nervous to take the imodium in case I do have some rare disease that will worsen by taking it. Any advice to get rid of the diarrhea. I am exclusively on soluble fibers starting today. Will that help? 

 

 

 


7Lil
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   Posted 11/15/2005 11:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Bera, I say try taking Calcium. Start with 600mg and then work your way up as needed. Here is a link to help guide you:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=26&m=346137
 


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Sarita
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   Posted 11/15/2005 11:19 AM (GMT -7)   

Bera, your doc probably wants to do the scope because it's really the best way to diagnose inflammatory bowel disease and other problems.  They take a few biopsies, usually, throughout the colon.  I've had a total of four scopings done this year - two upper and two lower (this is not typical!  Most only have one!).  All of them were easy as pie.  Drink the stuff the night before (tastes bad - but it's over quickly), hang out on the pot all night, wake up early, get an IV, and go off to la-la land for a few minutes.  I always asked for light anesthesia and even if I was slightly awake during the procedure, I was never aware of any of it, or didn't care what they were doing.  Your eyes might be open but you're really not thinking about anything, not in pain, not scared; all your senses are completely dulled.  Then when you wake up, it's all over.  Feel a bit groggy and go home and lie around like a sloth on your couch!

It's better to just get it done if you've never had one and you're experiencing bowel problems. 

As far as the diarrhea goes, how often are you going?  Some people have found success with fiber supplements; others with Imodium; others with probiotics; others with nothing.  Don't freak out necessarily if nothing seems to work.  You will adjust to this problem slowly (no, it's not fair, but it's what inevitably happens).  Eat easy foods, nothing weird.  Bananas and rice work pretty well.  That's until you get your scope, which will rule out the major offenders, and you can go from there.

Good luck girl - we've all been there, or continue to be there! 

 


Keriamon
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   Posted 11/15/2005 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
If you are having gall bladder problems, not much of anything will help. Btw, I had a bunch of tests done and they came back clear. Several years later I had the same test over again (hydascan) and it showed up a bad gall bladder. Mind you, I knew it was my gall bladder for 5 years. Tests are not the be-all, end-all because they certainly failed me.

You haven't said anything in particular that sounds like gall bladder vs. IBS, but here were my symptoms: horrible, horrible pain (couldn't stand up straight) in the upper abdomen. A lot of people hurt exclusively on their right side, but mine was across the diaphram. A lot of people are tender too on their right side around and up under the rib cage, but I didn't have that until the very end. Sometimes after eating I would hurt into my shoulder and down into my right arm. This especially happened after drinking coke, although caffeine and carbonation aren't triggers for everyone. I would wake up in the middle of the night in terrible pain and would pace the floor until I had a bowel movement which was some matter and a lot of yellow water--which burns like fire. A lot of people with bad gall bladders vomit predominately or vomit and have diarrhea alternately, but I only vomited with mine once; I was diarrhea predominant. When you are having a gall bladder attack you cannot lay down! I think this is unverisally true for everyone with a bad gall bladder. It makes you hurt worse and makes you sicker. Also, after I would have my middle-of-the-night bm, I would gradually start to feel some better. Never well enough to lay back down immediately, but the pain would start to subside. Then I would go back to sleep sitting up in the bed. I would take terrible chills during and especially immediately after the episode. When it was being unruly but not in the middle of a bad flare, mosts foods would make me nauseous just to eat them. And sometimes I would suddenly feel like I was overly full--sick you feel so full--when I hadn't even finished my food.

If most of that sounds familiar, then it's probably your gall bladder. Having a colonoscopy will gain you nothing. If you haven't had a hydascan, then you're missing a large part of the equation. While ultrasounds will show large stones, smaller stones and sludge can sometimes be missed. And then there was my gall bladder. I didn't have stones at all. It just didn't function properly. The hydascan tests gall bladder function. Make sure you have it done while you are in the middle of having problems. My gall bladder would work for a while, then it wouldn't. When it was working, it showed up on the tests as being fine. That's why they kept missing it.

I don't think Immodium will harm you, regardless of what undiagnosed problems you may have. People with IMS, Crohn's and UC all take it. If a doctor hasn't told you not to take it, and especially if they've recommended it, then I would take it. Still, I find that they constipate me the next day, so I have to keep it to 1/2 a pill at a time. Only take what you need to stop going to the bathroom, and allow 30-45 minutes for it to kick in. Most of the time when I was sick with my gall bladder, though, I used Pepto Bismol pills. They stopped my diarrhea without constipating me. They don't contain aspirin, but you can't take them if you are allergic to aspirin.

You can also try calcium supplements. I have had very good success with Caltrate 600 with Vitamin D with two pills a day. Some people take three, some only one. Depends on what it takes to stop you up. If it's your gall bladder, though, it won't help until you have it out. Calcium will not effect excess bile. However, Immodium and Pepto Bismol will help with any sort of diarrhea, whether caused by water, bile or parasites, etc.

I have read that soulable fiber isn't beneficial to people with diarrhea and may make it worse. You need insoluable fiber to provide bulk. The other kind just disolves in water and won't help if you have excess water--you need the insoluable kind to help bind up the water.

One last thing: dehydrated banana chips. They'll constipate you quicker than anything else I've found. My theory is they get in your guts and rehydrate themselves and absorb all the excess water. 1/3-1/4 of a supermarket bag is enough to harden my stools for days. I will caution you, though, if you suspect, after reading this, that you have a bad gall bladder, do not eat the banana chips and be sparing with the Immodium. Because if your gall bladder is bad, it will put too much bile into your digestive tract at once. And that stuff will want to come out regardless. If you've made yourself a bit constipated by eating banana chips or taking too much Immodium, you'll just get really, really sick and will eventually pass the hard stool followed by fairly explosive diarrhea. If you don't think you are having a gall bladder problem, then by all means, eat some banana chips. I ate some this past week and hardened up my stools enough that I was able to eat all sorts of fatty, greasy foods this weekend and not have any problems.

kiml
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   Posted 11/15/2005 11:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Bera,

I went through a similar situation over the past few months. I had this pressure/pain on my right side. I had the following tests done: mri, catscan of pelvis, cat scan of kidneys, liver biopsy, vaginal ultrasound, xrays & finally a colonscopy. Every test came back normal. So, my gastro came to the conclusion that I have IBS. I have been taking Enulose, for 15 years since I have constipation. My dr thinks its contributing to my discomfort. So, he put me on Miralax. Obviously you dont need these medicines, but I wanted to let you know the colonscopy was no big de, if you have a good doctor. Like everyone says, the preps is the worst. They put me totally asleep, but the minute they take out the iv, you wake up. I had a bought with IBS years ago & had similiar symptoms & it just went away. I am still dealing with it now, but I know it will eventualy get better.

Take Care, Kim L.

Bera
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   Posted 11/15/2005 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   

Wow, I'm excited about all the advice!

I don't think it's my gall bladder. I really don't have any of those symptoms. The majority of my discomfort is in the lower right abdomen with occassional, brief discomfort in the upper. I feel better when lying flat on my back or standing. No vomiting or nausea. I don't wake up to go during the night though I do wake up anxious in general. When I do finally get up in the morning I have to go ASAP. The diarrhea has been occurring for four days now approximately 10 times a day.

I will definitely try the dried bananas and am going to call the new doctor here shortly.

So, as far as the colonoscopy, I should take work off the day before and the day of the test. Will I be fine to go back the day after?

Also, everyone keeps talking about this stuff they had to drink. My doctor (who I'm not seeing anymore) said to take a laxative and an enema. That was all. Is that wierd?

 

 

 


kiml
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   Posted 11/15/2005 12:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh my goodnness, my discomfort feels better wehn i am laying or standing too. i can feel it more when i sit. you know the medicines i take give me bad diarrea, but i would rather have that then constipation. oh, i forgot to mention i had 2 gallbllader tests done, a hida scan & an ultrasound, bith were normal. the pressure we are feeling must be having too much water in colon....just a guess!!! whic causes dirarrea. i have been fdealing with this since september, but i have had every test there is to have.

i live in houston & have the best gastro in town. in order for the dr to get a clear picture of your colon, you MUST drink the go-lite, try-lite or whatever name brand you have. it comes in a 4 liter & you have to drink it until your bm runs clear. that is the only way to get a good view. the procedure takes about 30 minutes & itwas the best sleep i had. i took a 1/2 day the previous to take the 4 dulcalax & too start drinking early so i would not have to stay up late to finish. my procedure was at 1:00pm & we were home by 3:00pm. they dont keep you there long at all. my colon looked perfect. better than it did when i had this done in 1991. i used to abuse laxatives when i was in highschool, but i have not used them since, so my colon has jad a chance to heal. i was sure something was wrong, due to the pain i was having.

if i were you, i research it & hook up with a really good g.i. thats is the most important thing. Kim L.

7Lil
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   Posted 11/15/2005 12:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I would avoid those gallon drinks.... Ask your doctor for the pills or the Fleet Phosphosoda.
And yes, take the day of the prep off (unless you are instructed to start at 7pm like I was, since my scope was in the afternoon). Also, the day of off, but not the day after - You should be fine.
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mrmagoo
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   Posted 11/15/2005 12:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Yea, thats what I was talking about the Fleet stuff, blaaaaa, makes me feel funny even thinking about that nasty stuff again.

I am assuming here that they checked you for an apendix issue right? Had you jump up and down and all that, banging your heals on the floor, hitting your heal with their hand, etc...? If not get that done, being the lower to mid right side, it could definatley be an appendix. Otherwise its probably just your colon like the rest of us poor saps.

I have a few flash backs of the colonoscopy, mostly just images of what happened, I know I was awake enough to answer their questions, but I remember no pain, nor any of the questions :) Its actually half nerver racking cause I try so hard to remember, but at the same time very cool that I do not have to remember that kinda stuff.

Bera
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   Posted 11/15/2005 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I got my dried bananas and made my GI consultation appointment (not until the 28th but hopefully my entire body won't explode before then! If it does, there's always urgent care.)

All your advice has been totally great. I am so happy I stumbled across this forum! You seem like a great group of people. Thanks so much.

Jopsych
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   Posted 9/10/2011 3:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I went to the ER with stomach pain on the 29th og August. I had pain a couple of days. They did a cat scan and said I had colitis and told me bland diet and see a dr in a week. Haven't been to the doctor is 35 years. Well I went she does a rectal and no blood. I do not have diarrhea and when I go maybe 2 or 3 times a day the stools are very small. I also have nausea and heartburn after eating Prolisec was given. I have an appt. With a gastro on Sept. 19th. I am very scared. I have never been sick. Blood work is fine and no fever. Any ideas?

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   Posted 9/13/2011 6:16 AM (GMT -7)   
I am also allergic to the CT scan dye.  My GI doctor orders a number of Prednisone pills and Benedryl for me to take before the scan.  I have done this a number of times and everything was fine regarding the allergy.  Irisart

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   Posted 9/13/2011 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
This is a very old thread from 2005 so if you feel you don't recieve many responses to your post, please feel free to start a new thread

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Tori xx

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