the candida connection

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Red_40
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   Posted 2/5/2006 1:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone heard of the connection between IBS and candida?  A lady at church was telling me what her symptoms were, and they were so similar to mine that I went online and did some research.  Wow, what a coincidence.  I'm curious what you all know about this? 

pb4
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   Posted 2/5/2006 6:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I have, I've actually heard there is a connection to candida and IBD as well...that's why taking a good probiotic is key, even if you don't notice much in a change in symptoms, it's still good for a healthy and balanced gut flora.

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Dracan
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   Posted 2/23/2006 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, that's what my nutritionist told me. I would highly recommend buying a book called "The Beat Candida Cookbook" by Erica White (Amazon Link). It's got lots of anti-candida recipes in it, but the first quarter of the book isn't recipes, and contains a lot of useful information that made a lot of sense to me. Basically, an anti-candida diet consists of no sugar whatsoever - as this feeds the candida. Note that this also includes natural sugars - ie. no fruit. Also, no alcohol or stimulants (as this makes the body put sugar into the blood). There's quite a few other rules to follow too. She also says to take good bacteria (ie. acidophilus), and to also take an anti-fungal agent to further help killing the candida. The final part is to increase your vitamin/mineral intake (I highly recommend reading "The Optimium Nutrition Bible" by Patrick Holford (Amazon Link) for this). The extra vitamins and minerals should help boost our imune system and help fast healing of the gut wall.

Also, another thing she points out is that dead candida releases a lot more toxins into the body than alive candida. So for a couple of months your symptoms may go a lot worse (until your body can get rid of the dead candida). This normally causes a lot of people to think that the diet isn't working for them, and give up. The symptoms going worse is actually a very good sign, and means that the candida is being destroyed!

I've only recently started this anti-candida diet - so I can't tell you whether it's helping me or not yet - but I'll keep you all posted!

pb4
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   Posted 2/23/2006 6:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Dracan I agree with everything you've posted my only concern is that the body does need some sugar (via fruits and veggies) to maintain a normal glucose level otherwise you could be opening up a whole new can of worms.

Always a good idea to be tested for candida, I just recently was, via stool sample it all came back clear and I eat fruit and veggies but stay off raw processed sugar.

take care

Dracan
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   Posted 2/24/2006 1:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I thought that your body produced all the sugar that it needs? As far as I'm aware, the diet does not require any sugar intake whatsoever. I do eat lot of veggies, so that will provide a bit anyway (but nowhere near as much as fruit does).

Are there candida tests available in the UK? My doctor said there wasn't - but you know what doctors are like!

pb4
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   Posted 2/24/2006 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   
No, unfortuantely our bodies don't produce all the sugar we need, it produces sugar through the foods we eat but we need to ingest sugar and sodium for our bodies to keep out glucose levels in check....we would actually die if we didn't intake sugar or sodium...I don't know about candida tests in the UK, I'm sure there must be though.

good luck :)

Keriamon
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   Posted 2/24/2006 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Carbs are the biggest source of sugar for the body. You can refrain from eating table sugar, honey and the like, but the corn, carrots, potatoes, etc. will give you what you need.

If we didn't have to have sugar, then (type I) diabetics would just never eat carbs and never have to take insulin. However, they have to eat carbs and therefore have to take insulin in order to process it.

Dracan
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   Posted 2/26/2006 1:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Keriamon said...
Carbs are the biggest source of sugar for the body. You can refrain from eating table sugar, honey and the like, but the corn, carrots, potatoes, etc. will give you what you need.


I'm a bit confused now - I didn't really think of carbohydrates as being sugar (although, I guess they are). What's the difference between the carbohydrate type of sugar and the type of sugar that is recommended for an anti-candia diet?

My diet consists of lots of vegetables (cucumbers, tomatos, lettuce, peppers, carrots, celery) and nuts, seeds, quinoa, brown rice, fish, chicken. I also have three tablespoons of linseed (flaxseed) per day and suppliment plenty of vitimins and minerals (including acidophilus and caprylic acid). I have a 1.5litre bottle of mineral water everyday and about 2-3 cups of herbal tea. I don't have any fizzy drinks, junk food, coffee, tea, alcohol and fruit. I've only recently changed to this diet (a couple of months), hoping that it'll help my IBS. Is there anything important that I'm missing from this diet?

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   Posted 2/26/2006 1:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Dracan,
You don't have any problems with cucumbers, tomatoes, lettuce, peppers, carrots and celery? Those are all tough on the gut. Tomatoes are especially rough because of the seeds and acidity. The others mentioned are incredibly gassy and leave many bloated and crampy.
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Dracan
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   Posted 2/26/2006 1:33 PM (GMT -7)   
My symptoms haven't gone worse since I increased the vegetables in my diet. Before, I hardly eat any - maybe longterm this IBS will be a blessing - as it's made me think a lot more about what I eat. Thinking about how I eat before - I probably had a very low fibre intake and too much sugar. Certainly no where near enough nutrients than I should of been.

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   Posted 7/31/2007 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Dracan, just curious to know the results of your anti-candida diet. Thanks.
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1969
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   Posted 3/25/2008 1:15 PM (GMT -7)   
please could anyone let me know if there is anywhere that tests for candida

kim123
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   Posted 3/28/2008 6:35 AM (GMT -7)   
For me, an antifungal program was the only thing that helped me get well. You need to go on a lo-carb/no sugar diet to kill the fungus, then you can re-introduce some foods back into your diet. You could eat fruits like berries, lemons and limes because they have amazing antioxidants in them that outweigh the sugar factor. Most veggies are fine on the program. All grains, including corn are contaminated with mycotoxins (fungal poisons) so they are best to be avoided at first, and then used in moderation, anyway. I could not eat some of those veggies you mention here until my gut was healed. Now I can eat them again, if I don't overdo it, especially the seeds. I truly believe there is a fungus link with IBS/IBD. The only was to know is to experiment with such a diet. Give yourself 2 weeks of no cheating, and see if you don't feel better. Fungus comes in many forms and can do much damage. My doctor ran oodles of tests and never once indicated I had a fungal condition. Do you crave bread, pasta, potatoes.....? That could be a sign.

Joe9
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   Posted 4/2/2008 11:39 AM (GMT -7)   
So too much fruit can also feed candida? I eat a good amount of fruit, and I eat some breads, though I am off all types of "refined white sugars". I have had a distressing white coated tongue since last September, accompanied by chronic bitter taste. I have seen several doctors, some say it's fungal (Thrush) and some say it's just from stomach acid (I am taking meds which began giving me troubles since last June, so this could be related). I am also taking Flora-Q ("good bacteria").

Thanks...

Post Edited (Joe9) : 4/2/2008 12:42:53 PM (GMT-6)


Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 4/2/2008 7:29 PM (GMT -7)   
If you have Thrush it is easily treated with meds. It can get in the lungs and esophagous. Swish and Swallow medicine may help and is safer than pills.

Joe9
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   Posted 4/3/2008 3:17 AM (GMT -7)   
My latest doctor scoffs at the idea that I have Thrush, and the Mycelex lozenges another doctor gave me to dissolve on the tongue for the condition haven't done anything, which only confirms his feeling. But my tongue has been coated and white for 7 months, and I'm working on trying to find out why. The doctor did a swab yesterday and a blood test.

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   Posted 4/3/2008 1:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds like fungus to me. And yes, some fruits can feed the fungus because of their high natural sugar content. That is why when you first try to starve the fungus with an antifungal diet, you limit fruits to berries, green apples, lemons, limes, grapefruits. They are all excellent antioxidants and not so high in sugars...at least the benefits far outweigh the sugar factor. It is not a forever thing. If you truly want to find out what it is, experiment with an antifungal diet. You'll know soon enough. That's what I had to do. Doctors couldn't/didn't tell me anything about fungus. What other health issues do you have...just wondering..........
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