my inflamed ibs the cause of what?

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dodge
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   Posted 3/10/2006 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
                     
 
 
            so heres the story, I was having a hard time around 9th grade with some weird stomach thing that we identified after a while as IBS-D the diarrhea type. We eliminated the bad foods and I felt amazing, and life was great. Then the summer of the year that i was doing amazing, something changed and for the next 2/3 of a year I am sick(still sick by the way). The only thing that changed in my diet/ enviornment was the water, my town decided to clean my water a little more or something (we knew that this probably wasnt the complete cause of the issue). Other than that we went to our annual trip for the summer which is to go to Camden Maine. There i felt completely horrible and i could not bear to even leave the house for 90 percent of the two weeks. I barely made the trip home without completely breaking down. When i get back my parents arrange for us to meet a specialist, he has the same thing i have, but mine was inflamed for some reason(thats what I am trying to figure out).
He wants to do a colonoscapy or however you spell that, and an endoscopy to check for stomach infections, turns out i had like 4 ulcers, yeah extremely painful on top of my IBS. he then proscribed 2 weeks of anti biotics, after i started taking them i felt alot better, and then after the 2 weeks was over i was still improving, but i still had the symptoms of: cramping, gas, and pain upon pysichal activity. then it all went downhill and i felt the same way i did when i had the ulcers. My doc did the stool testing and nothing came up, so we went on Acidophilus
which helped digest my food and that worked for a while, and then one day my stomach decided that they shouldnt work anymore and so i had really bad diarrhea. I got off the acidophilus and that helped, but my stomach still wasnt anywhere close to what i call "normal"(normal for me is when i can eat the foods i am supposed to and still be able to do stuff like life....) thats where I am almost right now. except for some reason the pain has gone away, or most of it, especially when i run around it doesnt hurt so much anymore.
I still use the bathroom at the regular times, (morning and afternoon) but the morning is most always diarrhea/ stool and the afternoon is just like tiny remains from the morning.
 
Anybody please help im willing to try almost anything, oh and by the way theres two things i need to add, first, i did change the water in my diet, and nothing seemed to happen
second, my name Dr Dodge, no im not really a doctor, im 15 and that just sounded cool to me, cause i want to be a doctor.
 
Thanks

Terps19
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   Posted 3/10/2006 2:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Where were your ulcers? What do you mean by inflammation? Usually when there is inflammtion in your colon your have something called colitis. It can range from infectious colitis (cleared up by antibiotics) Microscopic colitis, Ulcerative colitis, or if you have inflammation in your small intestines as well than you might have Crohns disease... I hope none of those are the case...

Maybe you should try another colonoscopy and have them take biopsies so they can detect mild inflammation...

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dodge
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   Posted 3/10/2006 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
they did the biop and thats how they found the ulcers, but they were in varies parts of my intestines all in the large intesting except for one in the part below the esophigus, also sorry to confuse there i used inflamation to describe my escalated IBS. tests results for crohns and colitis were negative, thanks

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   Posted 3/11/2006 11:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi dr dodge,
First of all let me say that at first I was a bit wary about your user name.... But now that you have clarified - I dig it. I think it is fantastic that you want to be a doc. Best of luck to you.
Moving on... Have you seen that post about Calcium helping to control diarrhea and soothing inflamation in the GI track? It may do wonders for you. Really it works, there are several members here who take calcium on a daily basis to help control IBS-D.
If you want more info or help with the calcium you can always email the original poster lnape (i.e. Linda) at lnapents@netscape.net.
Take care.


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SP
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   Posted 3/14/2006 3:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Dr Dodge,
 
You sound like a perfect candidate for " Bacteria Overgrowth"
 
I highly suggest you find a Gastroenterologist who does the Small Bowel Bacteria overgrowth BREATH TEST!
 
 

SP
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   Posted 3/14/2006 3:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Dr Dodge,

One more thing! Dont wast any more time beleiving you just have to live with it !

If you go to a Gastroenterologist who doesnt beleive ib small bowel bacteri overgrowth find a new one !

CathyA
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   Posted 3/15/2006 6:29 AM (GMT -7)   
SP.....is the small bowel bacterial overgrowth test common? Is it one that alternative docs tend to believe in more than conventional docs?

dodge
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   Posted 3/16/2006 7:33 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks and I do think it does have something to do with bacterial overgrowth...or undergrowth but im not completely leaning that way anymore, lately i have just had like complete diarrhea, it could be because of soccer practice, and after today i decided that, like last season, i am not going to be able to play.. the running from soccer probably did cause some of the diarrhea, but normally, when i stay on my special foods diet, I FEEL WONDERFUL...but now it doesnt seem to work, i will update in a couple days when i havent done anything athletic, which is so hard for me not to do......

 

thanks for all your guys help and i will hopefuly look into the suggestions


Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 3/16/2006 11:38 PM (GMT -7)   
What do they do for small bowel overgrowth or undergrowth? How do they decide which it is?

dodge
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   Posted 3/17/2006 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
good question, idno...im not actually a doctor

dodge
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   Posted 3/19/2006 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   
anyone have any idea?

dodge
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   Posted 3/19/2006 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
by the way what are the sypmtoms for more or less bacteria in your stomach? and how can i get my body back to "normal"

Keriamon
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   Posted 3/20/2006 3:36 PM (GMT -7)   
They treat bacteria overgrowth (always means bad bacteria overgrowth) by giving you antibiotics to kill the bacteria. A good doctor will also tell you to take probiotics while you are on the antibiotics to keep from having antibiotic-associated diarrhea (even normal people get that) and to keep on taking them for a couple of weeks or more after stopping the antibiotics in order to replinish the bacteria in the gut.

Bascially there is good bacteria and bad bacteria. Antibiotics kills both kinds equally. The theory is if you take probiotics while on antibiotics and afterwards you will get the bad stuff killed off and get it replaced with the good stuff before the bad stuff has a chance to come back. It is commonly known that bad bacteria--especially C. difficile--can need multiple rounds of treatment of antibiotics to get it killed out. Like I said, if you take the probiotics during and afterwards, you can usually get the good stuff established in your gut before the bad stuff reproduces and fills up the area again. You only have so much room in there for them to live, so one or the other must prevail. Mind you, everyone has some bad bacteria in their guts because they perform a necessary function as well, but they are bad when you have too many of them; that's when they harm you more than they help you.

Also, I read recently that the new theory is that ulcers themselves are caused by bacteria, not by excessive stomach acids caused by worrying, as was originally thought. That's probably why you were given antibiotics, dodge.

It's hard to tell if your IBS is caused by bacterial overgrowth or not. They have a breath test that can test for you. Some of the other symptoms are a lot of gas and related gas cramps, smelly poots and bowel movements, and a white coating on the tongue and/or mouth (thrush), bad breath, and, oddly enough, urinary tract or vaginal infections as these four things are a sign of yeast overgrowth and where there is too much in one place, there is usually too much in another. I'm not sure if too much yeast is the same thing as too much bad bacteria (you need the yeast, just in limited amounts), or if they treat it with antibiotics as well, but I'm pretty sure there are meds out there to reduce yeast overgrowth.

By the way, I don't think there is such a thing as an undergowth of bacteria. If you have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, then it's assumed you have too little good bacteria. As far as I know, your intestines are always full of something, be it good or bad. You get bacteria through your food, water and probably even the air you breathe, so it's hard to be without. Even as the antibioitics are killing bacteria off, more are coming in, which is why you can take antibioitics and then get reinfested with bad bacteria; they come in off things you swallow and they reestablish themselves. That's why it's important to try and take the probiotics to keep that from happening.

Keriamon
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   Posted 3/20/2006 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
http://www.dhn-online.org/freeIssue/probiotics.html

A news article on probiotics

http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/ask_the_doctor/probiotics.shtml

BBC’s Ask the Doctor


Some info on probiotics. From what I can tell yeast overgrowth IS treated with antibiotics, same as bad bacteria.
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