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roadtrip
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   Posted 3/11/2006 5:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi everybody!
 
Just wondering if anybody has any experience using antidepressants to treat ibs because my doc has just prescribed me amitriptyline (Elavil) in 10mg doses. My Ibs is mainly towards the D end with gas and bloating and my doc reckons it can take up to 6 weeks before i would notice any difference.
 
So i was wondering if any of you guys use or have used antidepressants? if so what type and what dose and how long befoe you noticed a difference?
 
Also do you use these things continually or do you just have a 'treatment' for a couple of months?
 
roadtrip :-)

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   Posted 3/11/2006 6:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Usually anti depressants are used for 6-9 months for treatment for depression that is not chronic. I am on wellbutrin 150 mg and it is not necessarily for my Ulcerative colitis (mainly causes D, along with bleeding etc). I would say that I noticed a difference in my depressive state in about 2 weeks. I stopped crying as much and I guess my stomach felt a bit better... But I dont think it is a treatment for IBS or IBD, but a treatment to get your head right because there is a mind gut connection.
Is it UC or MC?
Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily
Entocort EC 9mg
Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me
VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day
Compazine 10 mg as needed
Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed
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   Posted 3/11/2006 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi roadtrip,
Docs are using antidepressants to treat IBS because of the benefits that many say are good for IBS that they have observed through clinical trials. While the main reason for rxing antidepressants are for anxiety/depression, it is not necessary for you to have this when the doc uses it for IBS symtpoms. Anti-d's are usually not prescribed for IBS alone unless the symptoms are unmanagable. Anxiety is often a problem for IBSers and the symptoms involved so antidepressants work to treat both.
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   Posted 3/11/2006 7:22 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi roadtrip,
Here are a couple of links that you may find helpful:

http://www.remedyfind.com/rem.asp?id=4711

 
Actually that second one is good info for a lot of treatments.
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Terps19
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   Posted 3/11/2006 7:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah I also take Ativan for anxiety and that has helped a whole bunch actually. The day after I took my first dose my stomach actually stopped hurting and it felt like weights were lifted off of my shoulders. Now I would be careful with Ativan because it is adicting (as I have been taking it for about 9 months now) but as long as you dont overdue it you should be ok. So maybe talk to your doctor about that? There are other anti anxiety and stress medicines but they have bad side effects (sexual side effects big time for most).
Is it UC or MC?
Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily
Entocort EC 9mg
Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me
VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day
Compazine 10 mg as needed
Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed
Officially married!


roadtrip
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   Posted 3/12/2006 12:35 PM (GMT -7)   

hi guys, thanx for the responses

Yeah the anti-depressants aren't for depression as such. the doc has only given me doses of 10mg which she says are so small that they won't affect my 'head' and also are not addictive (normal doses are from 25mg all the way up to 150mg).

No, they're strictly for the ibs to target the sensors in the gut which send messages to the brain, so i was just wondering if anyone had been prescribed something similar soley for ibs?


Terps19
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   Posted 3/12/2006 7:58 PM (GMT -7)   
hey roadtrip

would you keep me posted of any side effects you have with Elival? I know you are on a small dose so you probably wont have any
Is it UC or MC?
Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily
Entocort EC 9mg
Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me
VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day
Compazine 10 mg as needed
Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed
Officially married!


roadtrip
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   Posted 3/13/2006 6:07 AM (GMT -7)   

yeah i will do, but i'm not sure when i'm gonna start taking them tho!

i'm trying some other stuff at the mo and also thinking about trying fibre supplements first - but if i do start taking them i'll keep you posted!


SP
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   Posted 3/14/2006 3:22 PM (GMT -7)   
ANY GASTROENTEROLOGIST WHO PRESCRIBES ANTIDEPRESENTS FOR IBS --IM MY OPINION --SHOULD LOOK FOR A NEW PROFFESION!
ANY YOU AS THE PATIENT SHOULD LOOK FOR A NEW GASTROENTEROLOGIST.

dbab
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   Posted 3/14/2006 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   

SP, Please read the forum rules before posting...

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   Posted 3/15/2006 9:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Actually antidepressants can have a calming effect on the bowels, it is not uncommon to have these prescribed for IBS.
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 3/15/2006 11:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Lately I have read that 75% of the Seratonin(sp) in the body is in the gut and they are finding a link between IBS and Seratonin levels which I think is the reason they are prescribing antidepressants that work on the seratonin.

Bianchi01
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   Posted 3/16/2006 5:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey roadtrip, I was just diagnosed with IBS yesterday and am actively studying it's symptoms, causes, treatments, etc. funny thing I am now realizing that I have had it since middle school! sad about a year ago my doctor prescribed me elavil small dose (25 mg) because I was crying alot and always sad and stressed about something to where I couldn't sleep. (Caused by IBS?) She said it would help me get a full nights sleep but I wouldn't notice the antidepressant for a couple of weeks. I stopped taking it before the bottle was even gone because the only thing I did was sleep, sometimes 16 hours a night, and I felt like a zombie when I was awake...Let us know how it goes.  

mads
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   Posted 3/16/2006 1:07 PM (GMT -7)   

hey im have been and am still taking amilitriptine for last 2 years, i started on 10mg nad it worked for a while, but stomach got used to it so dose was upted to 20mg and worked a little bit again. i had no major side affects, just first week woke with v dry mouth like hangover without the alcohol!!  i have reduced dose again as not working now well nothing is working at mo to be honest!!i woud say give them a go, things work for different people,  good luck.

plus any ideas what can do for bloatedness that has lasted 3weeks now with on off acid reflux and heartburn went to A&E last night as so bad but given pain killers and sent home, i often wonder if have IBS or something else.  Everytime end up in hospital the minute i say IBS they do nothung and send me home feeling crap!!

plus  haveing chloric irrigation sat anyone had one before, bit scared but cant wiat to actually feel like been to the loo as dont think been for a month!!

tske care all


roadtrip
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   Posted 3/16/2006 1:50 PM (GMT -7)   

thanks for the feedback guys :-)

yeh i'm a bit wary about the anti-depressants, got a prescription tho so i will give them a go - first tho i'm trying some Digestive advantage and then fiber if they dont work

sorry mads, i don't have any answers to your questions - i suffer from alot of gas/bloating as well, although i've heard people mention gas-x and beano on here which are supposed to be quite good ...

for your other questions, i would recomend starting a new specific thread so that some one else might be able to help you 

roadtrip


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   Posted 3/16/2006 1:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Ny Dr. told me today that if I am belching gas that the gas is caused from acid reflux or swallowing air and if I have the other kind of gas it is from food and something else which I quickly forgot. I think he said bacteria. I had never heard that before. I have had so much nausea and the belching relieves it for the minute but then if builds back up again. I don't think that mean you can't get gas from eating in the stomach though just that we rid ourselves differently depending on the type of gas. He gave me Zelnorm to try. He insists this is IbS. It is human nature to want to find a more definete explanation and that is why this is so frustrating to all of us, especially since it is different for everyone it seems. I use Phazyme for gas which is stronger than GAS-X. You can get the generic in most stores of both. Beano you take before you eat. I think.

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   Posted 3/16/2006 1:59 PM (GMT -7)   
You do get gas from certain foods as well as how you eat. Faster eaters tend to get more gas because of the amount of air swallowed while eating. Eating slow can prevent some of this gas as well.
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SP
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   Posted 3/16/2006 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
dbab,

I was simply stating my opinion from experience that the antidepresents in many cases discize-hide the real problem
such as was with my case for me so many years. Yeah the antidepresent may seem to relax the gut and you may seem temporarily better
but for the long term results and root cause of the real problem is not found that way with realxints,antianxiety and or antidepresents.

One again this is my opionion along with three of my favorite doctor's opinions.



please excuse me spelling of certain things since i usually post things quickly~

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 3/18/2006 12:33 AM (GMT -7)   
SP, how did you get yours under control then? What was the root cause of your IBS? Thanks.

cfriedberg
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   Posted 5/31/2006 5:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Elavil is prescribed because it is an antispasmadic drug as well. It calms the stomach. The docs all know this. :-)

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   Posted 6/1/2006 10:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi,

Ive just been prescribed sertraline today as my anxiety is making my IBS worse. I'm going to give them a go as I feel like i need something to help me. I am wary of side effects though.
Victoria

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   Posted 6/1/2006 3:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Roadtrip. I just started taking 10 mg doses of amitriptyline for pain control. I take them before bed as they can make you very tired. My husband used to take this medication and dose for lower back pain and it worked well. Hoping it does the same for myself.

I also take Celexa, which is an anti-depressant, for depression. I've taken this for 3 years and it works very well for me.
Take care, Softy
 


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   Posted 6/1/2006 3:47 PM (GMT -7)   
While looking up side effects for Elavil I found a site called
www.askapatient.com. It talks about other peoples experiences on this.
Take care, Softy
 


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   Posted 6/2/2006 9:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok, so what it the root cause. It seems to be different as this is a functional problem not a physical problem with out intestines. I think with IBS it is whatever works safely for you. I didn't know taht elavil was an antispasmotic. I have a friend that was given it for fractured disc pain.

Laloopo
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   Posted 2/16/2007 9:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm on paxil and I'm feeling GREAT ever since my Doc put me on it about 4 months ago.. Everyday is GREAT! I have had CD for 2 years and i'm finally feeling 100% better. It sure did calm down my CD .
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