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CATRIN1197
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   Posted 3/21/2006 4:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, any help or advice with this one would be great.
I read a previous thread that talked about sudden nausea followed by the urge to have a bowel movement. But there was no advice on what caused it or how to make it stop!
I've had this problem that I call "oh my God I feel like I"m going to puke" attacks for about 5 years. They come and go every couple of months, but when they come, I get them about every other day. I'll be doing normal day to day things, like sitting here typing on my computer or washing dishes, or cooking, and suddenly I get this feeling in the back of my mouth and throat, mouth starts watering, I start shaking, sweating, and swallowing like there is no tomorrow, and I think I'm going to throw up at any second. I usually don't have dry heaves with it, but sometimes I do, and let me tell you how petrified I am of throwing up. . . . this is just a wickedly horrible experience even though it only lasts for a couple of minutes. When it starts to go subside, I get gas really bad and need to have a bowel movement.
I've heard the panic attack stories and reflux from my docs. They tell me basically that I need to deal with it because they don't understand what I'm explaining to them. They seem to think as long as I'm not puking, then nothing is happening.
If anybody can help me, I'd so greatly appreciate it.
Thank you!

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   Posted 3/21/2006 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Catrin,
Welcome to Healing Well :)
I also first thought of reflux. This causes nausea for a lot of people. My mother is actually one of them and she gets relief from Reglan (prescription). She also chews ginger gum which she swears by. Have you had an upper endoscopy to check to any erosion in your esophagus that may give a clue as to whether you have GERD/reflux or not. I would definitely suggest doing that. Take Care
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Keriamon
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   Posted 3/21/2006 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Take a look at my earlier post on gall bladder disease. Sudden unexplainable nausea and vomiting are symptoms of it, as is diarrhea. I used to get chills after having my bowel movement and would get a funny, queasy feeling in my stomach for no apparent reason at random times during the day.

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   Posted 3/21/2006 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I get this at times also and my husband swears that my poop (I'm chronically constipated) is poisoning my system and that's why I feel so ill. Like you though it can come and go with no rhyme or reason.

I take ginger capsules for the nausea and they help alot. I never thought about reflux though as I generally don't suffer from heartburn.
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   Posted 3/21/2006 8:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know if this will help but my Dr. said that if I am burping that it is caused by swallowing air or acid reflux. If I am "passing gas" that is is from bacteria or undigested food. You do not always have to feel heartburn to have acid reflux. It can be there just the same. Whem I burp itrelieves the nausea for a second and then it returns. Mine is mostly from acid reflux and now that I know that I am trying to help it with acid reducers and eating slower and staying away from things that normally increase acid reflux. Can't say it is 100% improved but it is better.

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CATRIN1197
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   Posted 3/22/2006 8:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Ok, thank you for your replies! It's much appreciated.
As for tests I've had done. . . where do I begin? I've been tested with every blood test possible, from celiac disease, fasting lipids, h pylori, gluten allergy, etc. but all come back normal. I've had over the past 2 years: Upper endoscopy (confirmed ulcers), camera pill (confirmed lots of duodenal ulcers), upper GI barium series w/small bowel follow thru, gastric emptying study (concluded I have gastroparesis), abdominal ultrasound (to check gall bladder), HIDA scan (gall bladder normal), and prescriptions galore. They have even tried anti-depressants in hope that would help my diarrhea proned IBS (but no, they just make me feel crazy). Right now I'm on twice daily Nexium, hyoscyamine .125mg, promethazine 25mg. I am also supposed to be on a bone formation drug b/c I have osteopenia from being on Depo-provera for 5 years, but that makes my GERD ridiculous so I can't take it. I've changed my diet in the past 3 months to no more red meat, VERY limited fried foods, high fiber, more veggies (just none with heavy skin like beans or corn). . basically I eat chicken, rice and bread all the time. I'm not a big salad lover.
The ginger pills are something I will have to try.
As for burping, I can agree that it helps a LOT sometimes! :)

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   Posted 3/23/2006 1:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh my goodness, Cartrin! You have had almost every test in the book. At least your docs are thorough.  What's up with your ulcers? Did your docs conclude you have UC or Crohn's?
I get nausea too... a lot. I don't have reflux (GERD) so I guess it's just my IBS. Sometimes my nausea is followed by D, and then more nausea. Those times I drink tea. Whatever sounds good in the moment... Camomile, Mint, or Fennel. All three sit really well in a yucky feeling tummy.

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CATRIN1197
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   Posted 3/23/2006 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Lil!
Yea, after 3 different doctors, I've had a pretty good round of tests. Especially with my most recent doc.
I haven't been diagnosed with colitis, just the IBS and GERD.
Thank you all for your insight!!!
Hope some of it helps me out! I'm sick of being sick and everyone around me saying it's just in my head.

Keriamon
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   Posted 3/23/2006 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Don't you hate it when a doctor can't give you an answer, much less three of them? I had two doctors prescribe me antacids for my "fullness" and they didn't do squat for me. Probably because I had a bad gall bladder, not acid reflux!!! Funny, it took 5 years to show up as being bad on a test, but my mother knew almost from the start what was wrong with me. But she didn't count because she's just a nurse and the doctors knew best (NOT). And she had had a bad gall bladder too, but what did she really know about them? I still get angry thinking about those wasted years; it made college completely and totally miserable.

My fiance fusses on me frequently because I try to self-diagnose before I go to a doctor. He doesn't understand why I have absolutely no faith in them anymore. I can't make him understand that after 5 years of having doctors brush me off when I had a disease that's actually pretty simple to identify, I only go to them when I absolutely have to and I don't trust them as far as I can throw them unless what they say 1) jives with my common sense and 2) agrees with at least some of what I've already found out about.

I'd recommend to anyone who has their pick of G.I.s, interview them first and ask them what's their first hand experience with a G.I. disorder. If they haven't had a gall bladder removed, don't have IBS or an IBD or at least have GERD or have a spouse or child with one of the above, then skip that doctor. Doens't mean he or she doesn't know the G.I. doctor's handbook from cover to cover--I just think you can't get sympathy from someone who has no clue what it's like to live in a bathroom or get sick after eating much of anything. You talk to a doctor whose wife has IBS, though, you're likely to find someone who knows a lot and believes you and is sympathetic. I have found out from being on this forum for over 6 months now that not everything is in a medical book because man, people have a lot of symptoms, a lot of triggers and can be on opposite ends of the spectrum. Maybe some doctor, someday, will come to a place like this, poll people who are actually sick, get their stories of misdiganoses, their theories on how things work or don't work and why and will publish all of that info in a book for doctors so that they can read it and say, okay, my patient doesn't hurt on her right side, but has other gall-bladder like symptoms. Here is a case in this book of another woman who didn't hurt on her right side, but had similar symptoms and ended up having a bad gall bladder. Also, her first tests came back negative, but she thinks that's because her gall bladder was functioning at the time and if she had been tested when sick, it would have come up bad. So rather than schedule a test when it's convenient, I'll tell my patient to go to the lab as soon as she starts having problems so hopefully we can catch it in the act. Yeah, that'd be a handy book.

CATRIN1197
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   Posted 3/23/2006 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
My mom said the EXACT SAME THING. She's not a doc either, but she had her gall bladder removed a long time ago and says that my new symptoms correspond directly with gall bladder disease. My doc even said that too, but since the "tests" come back negative, that I'm fine, just try to keep changing your diet. Yea. . . when your at the point where you can't enjoy eating, there's a problem.
Your story sounds exactly like mine. I have a medical book at home that I try to use all the time when something new pops up, but it's usually to no avail. My fiance thinks I'm just falling to pieces, but he knows that there has to be something wrong with me, but he's otherwise healthy so he doesn't understand. I wish somebody somewhere could figure out what's wrong with us so I could stop hearing "we just need to take you out back and shoot ya!"

LondonGirl22
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   Posted 3/23/2006 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi, Your posts were v interesting.  Ive suffered mild nausea for a while now since Ive had IBS.  Just recently though ive been v hungry but when i start to eat i feel so sick and its really bad nausea.  Is it best to try and eat little bits when you feel like that?

Tori


CATRIN1197
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   Posted 3/23/2006 12:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I've had that problem too, where I'll practically be starving and as soon as I try to eat, I feel sick but still hungry. That is when I crumble up a piece of bread and eat that. But for any reason, I have found that eating frequent small meals helps out all my ailments, especially my GERD since when my stomach is empty is when I feel the worst.

LondonGirl22
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   Posted 3/23/2006 12:49 PM (GMT -6)   

Yeah thats what happened last night, I was starving and ate about 5 mouthfuls and suddenly felt so sick really quickly.  The nausea is still there today and the thought of eating makes me feel ill although I can get a phase where i feel hungry and sick!!

I'm, just a walking disaster I think!!

Thanks for your advice xx


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   Posted 3/23/2006 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Tori, I agree with Catrin try a piece of bread or better yet some crackers. If you are hungry on top of the nausea, if you don't put a little something in your stomach, it tends to make your nausea 10 times worse unless you can't even keep water down then thats when you want to not eat anything at all for at least 2-3 hours.
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Keriamon
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   Posted 3/23/2006 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Not that this is totally encouraging, Catrain, but if you do have gall bladder disease, it won't go away and will eventually get worse, so that eventually it will show up on tests. When you get worse, go back to the doctor and make him do the tests on you again. If nothing, then wait until you get more worse and then go back and get tested again. You just have to keep going back and forcing the issue until something comes of it. And once it's out, life is SO much better. Some people are cured completely, even. Me, I still have some problems, but not nearly as bad, no where near as painful (in fact I rarely experience any amount of pain) and I have medicine that keeps it in check almost all of the time.

I don't know about you, but I would go into remission with mine and be okay for a while, even months at a time. My first series of tests was done when I was actually feeling some better and I think that's why I didn't show up; my gall bladder functioned some of the time and when they looked at it, it just happened to be functioning. I always tell people to get the hida scan when they are are in the middle of a bad spell to increase the chance that it will be caught.

CathyA
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   Posted 3/23/2006 8:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm......it almost sounds like a sudden release of something.......like a hormone or adrenalin or something. How old are you? Are they related to your cycles at all? Are you on any medications or vitamins?

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   Posted 5/5/2007 9:37 PM (GMT -6)   

And I was just starting to think I was crazy....and my doctor just looks at me like I'm speaking another language.

I've had sudden and rapid onset of Nausea for about 5 months now.  It comes outta nowhere and disappears just as fast.  It's ruined days, appetites and interupted my social life on more than one occasion.

I checked in on the gall bladder thing and don't seem to have any other symptoms.

Anyone know what I can do?   What I can take?   etc?

 

Thanks, Sean


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   Posted 5/5/2007 9:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello,  I totally agree with Kerimon..  I have had stomach issues for 15 years..  The last 5 have been terrible..  They did a hysterectomy, every test in the book..  Upper GI, Lower GI, Endoscopy,gallbladder ultrasound, cat scan..  What it took was the Hyda scan when I was feeling really sick..  That showed that my gallbladder was not functioning as it should..  I used to be up in the middle of the night for hours on the bathroom floor in pain.. After I would go to the bathroom I would feel better..  THis went on for years and years..  I went to the ER so many times I lost count.. It took that one test just at the right time for them to finally figure it out.. I had it out in November.. I have to say I am not cured but a whole lot better..  I have no more night issues.. Just issues in the morning..  You really sould like you have gallbladder problems..  Don't give up demand a Hyda scan..  Hope you feel better..  Take Care tongue

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   Posted 5/6/2007 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   
I sometimes get nauseated when I have gas, but after the gas passes, the nausea goes away. Occasionally the same for bowel movements. I don't know exactly why - i always thought maybe the gas was at a certain place in my intestines and mashed the wrong way on a nerve, and caused the nausea. *shrug* i have way more problems with C than D, and some acid reflux, not severe though. when i do have it, mine shows up as nausea rather than heartburn.

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   Posted 5/11/2007 9:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I have the same thing. My doctor said that it can also be caused by pressure hitting the nerves. I have had some relief from having someone massage my center back on either side of the spine and also from an osteopath. If your 8th vertibre is sensitive to press, this might work for you.

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Another osteopathic patient awards accolades to the profession!
 
Seriously, I'm going to use OMM (Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine) on all my "mystery" patients in the future.  It's really good stuff.

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   Posted 10/5/2007 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello. I have a somewhat similar situation just not to your extreme. I used to have issues with my stomach all the time when I was a child. I don't know what that was about or the reason why it got better. It was great for years and then two years ago I became lactose intollerant and suddenly I had troubles eating just about everything! (I believe this occured from taking antibiotics for six months straight! I quit them without the docs approval and then a few months later my issues began.) I get loose stools almost every day and am always gasy. I often get nausea immediatly after I eat or wake up. I see it as a "spell". I eat something that my stomach doesn't like so I get nausious. I go to the bathroom and then I feel better for a bit but since my stomach can't digest whats in my stomach, it makes everything I eat for the next few day's an irritant. I get hives and itchy skin to random things (couple times a month) in response to the backup in my stomach. I also get large amounts of gas and a swollen belly. I then have to go to the bathroom several times a day for a couple days and then I am better until I eat something bad again. What I can and can not eat changes often. I think my worst nausea is from zinc pills. If I take them with yougurt then it is hit or miss if I will feel sick from them. I will feel sick all day and into the next morning. (They clear my face so I don't want to stop taking them!) I watch what I eat carefully as this whole cycle is in relation to what I ingest. I see that your carefully watching your diet too. Do your symptoms ever wane? Some days better then others? Maybe there is something in your enviroment that is irriating you. Iv'e learned that allergys come on quick and can create a mountain of problems if you don't catch them. Your allergys evolve into something worse with more symptoms cause your whole body is irritated. Hoefully you figure it out soon!!!

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   Posted 1/12/2008 10:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I too suffer with gas. I was diagnosed with IBS, used to be hoooooooooorible... i would eat and within 10 minutes had to find a bathroom, horrible cramping, noises... all the like... I have been put on reglan. But heres the deal... between say 1030 at nite and 100 in the morning, i get this strong urge start gagging, mouth waters, nose runs, and i throw up... then I am fine. Recently when I start feeling like this I MAKE myself have a bowel movement and that fixes the problem. ALAS, I know it sounds crazy... anyone???

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   Posted 1/14/2008 11:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Hold72, before my gall bladder removal and even now, after it's gone, I can get sick and I may try and make myself poop because I know I'm sick because I've got too much bile in my digestive tract and I'll feel better once I get it all out. I used to have gall bladder attacks where the pain and nausea would build and build until I thought I was going to explode or die, and then I'd have a fairly explosive bowel movement, and then the pressure and pain would start to ease off and a few more minutes later, I would be able to go back to bed. Most of my attacks were at night; I'd wake up sick.

If you are having D, why are you on Reglan??? That makes your guts work faster, not slower. I've only ever used it if I eat something and it just sits on my stomach and doesn't want to move.

Also, have you tried going gluten-free? Celiac's Disease, which is an allergy to gluten, can cause similar problems. My cousin's husband thought he had a bad gall bladder--and indeed he did--but once it was out, he didn't get any better, and it turns out he also has Celiac's. When he cut out the wheat, etc., he got well.

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   Posted 5/22/2008 9:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi! I have multiple things going on with me. Okay I have severe nausea almost everyday for about 6 years. Everytime I eat which is usually one or two bites I feel full and very nauseated. It does not matter what time of the day I eat when it time to go to bed (10 or 11) My stomach is very upset I feel that awful feeling in the back of mouth throat like I have to throw up and the nausea is unbearable. My worst feel is vomiting so I will do what ever I have to not to throw up. I am constantly swallowing because it feels like I could vomit at any moment.

I go days without a bowel movement and when I do I always feel like I have to go again. Even after the bowel movements I still feel sick to my stomach. I am so tired of going to the doctor and the hospital because IBS and acid reflux are always the answer I get. I have take Zantac 150, Prilosec, Aciphex, Nexium (which I am currently taking) I take Bentyl for the IBS which seems to be the only drug around for that. Over the counter mediciations include Maalox Maximum Strength Stomach Formula, Fibercon, Metamucil, and now Gaviscon which seems to work the best. However there are still times when nothing seems to work. I am at my wits in and I feel like I am loosing my mind. I don't know if anyone can help me.

Oh I have been to so many gastro doctors that I could become one. I have had the scope done, upper gi, lactose test, and enough ultra sounds and xrays that I should be glowing. All they tell me is IBS and reflux/gerd. I now believe that I will be this way for the rest of my life. It is so depressing not to eat like a normal person or to go places because I never know how my stomach will be at any given time.
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