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sad123
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   Posted 3/26/2006 10:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello, I’m Cat and I are new to these boards. I’m 15 years old. I had a bad virus just before Christmas. The doctor said that it was gastroenteritis. It took me ages to recover but I haven’t been back to normal since. I kept getting nausea, tummy upsets, bloating… I have recently had a blood test done (which was quite an achievement for me as I hate needles and blood) and they were clear and I have just been referred to a hospital for more tests but the doctor is pretty sure that I have IBS following the gastroenteritis. My worst “attacks” are really horrible and pretty scary for me. I will start getting very bad nausea, a dry mouth and tummy pains, and then I will really need the toilet. Then I will have a bad tummy upset and straight after I will start shaking. Its like a panic attack and an IB attack and it’s horrible. I hate the nausea as Im terrified of being sick. I also get nausea usually 2 hours after eating and I can get it at random times during the day. I have had nausea at some point everyday since December and its really getting me down. The Doctor has given me a drug called Motillium, which is supposed to help the nausea and bloating, but it doesn’t stop it from bothering me.

I only get attacks like that very rarely but the thing that is really bothering me is sleep. I can’t get to sleep at night because of my IB. Its like as soon as I go to bed I will start getting nausea. I have to sleep with 3 pillows because being upright makes it better. The problem is that as soon as I get the nausea, I have to wait until it passes which can be anything up to 3 hours or more, which means that sometimes I don’t get to sleep until 1AM. This is really becoming a problem because on the days that I can get to school, I am incredibly tired. Can someone give me some advice for what to do? My mum keeps saying its psychological but the nausea can suddenly start even if Im completely relaxed. It even wakes me up from sleep sometimes too.

Also I would really appreciate any messages from people who share the same experience as me as I feel very alone right now. I have read about IBS and although the doctor says im too young for it to be lifelong, it doesn’t seem to be settling down. I cry a lot and I know that it’s going to interfere with my GCSEs in May.

I just really need some people to talk to

Thank you

dbab
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   Posted 3/26/2006 11:09 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Cat
Welcome to Healing Well :-)

I am so glad you found us but not because you have to be here.  We have a lot of great members and another regular member who is also 15 so I'm sure you will have a lot in common since her symptoms are similar to yours and she also has to deal with school.  I have had IBS since I was 14 and nothing medically brought it on, my analysis is because I was starting high school and in honors, shooting for college etc.  I also have anxiety/panic disorder which makes my symptoms that much worse.

You may want to do some research, there is so much on the web on what exactly IBS is and what causes it.  I understand your frustration about your mum thinking is psychological and that is what many think who don't understand it.  Because our blood tests, scans, scopes come up clear; it must be in our head.  That is not true.  Your mum doesn't understand and thats totally normal.  Do some research and show her what you come up with, she'll see that so many people suffer with this.

As far as the nausea, there are other anti-nausea medications out there that you may want to try if your current one does not work.  Reglan is what my mom takes and she has good results with it.  There are others but you have to watch for the drowsiness side effect.  You may also want to try a hot water bottle or a heating pad in bed when your pains are bad.  I have two, one at work and one at home and it has helped me through some hard times.

I know others will be along shortly (weekends are usually slow) to give you some insight and advice.
I hope you keep posting. tongue


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sad123
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   Posted 3/26/2006 11:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for replying and thanks for the advice. Im really glad I found these boards as I know they will really help
:-)

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 3/26/2006 4:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Cat, I,too have a lot of nausea with my "IBS". I take ginger capsules and they work just great. Actually even ginger cookies help. I don't get a lot of intestinal pain though I have had some but the nausea is my worst part. I am curious as to where you live. Motilium is not available in the US. I get it from New Zealand and take it about an hour before a meal. I am a little surprised that Motilium would work for someone with diahrea as it speeds up the digestive process by moving the food thru the stomach faster and I would think you would want to slow yours down. I have IBS with constipation. Just have poor motility in the stomach and I do bloat and have a lot of gas mostly I think from the acid which Motilium helps in my case. It would seem that a anti-spasmotic would work better for the diahrea. I don't think you would take both though.

I recently started on IBS Digestive Advantage and it seems to be helping with everything but the constipation. Had to take half a laxative last night as I could tell it was all starting up again. Also take a Prevacid in AM and a Pepcid before bed. Anyway, try the ginger capsules. Pepto Bismol also works for nausea quite well. Problem is it constipates me.

Post Edited (Canyonbabe711) : 3/26/2006 4:11:11 PM (GMT-7)


Keriamon
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   Posted 3/27/2006 9:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Reglin, I think, makes your stomach empty out--which is good if you get something in there that just sits there and won't go out and makes you sick.  Fenergin is usually the drug of choice when it comes to nausea.  I've been sick enough to take both.
 
Given that this came about because of a previous illness of the G.I. tract, you may want to take probiotics.  Probioitcs are good bacteria that live in your intestines.  When you have certain illnesses or infections or when you take an antibioitic, these good bacteria can get killed off and the bad bacteria has room to multpliy and grow and that will throw off your intestinal balance and cause nausea and especially diarrhea.  I noticed that you're from the British Isles or Australia ("mum"), so I don't know what all is available to you over there or if what we're used to using here in the U.S. goes by a different name there, but you have some options.  One, go to your chemist and ask him or her for probiotics.  If they are lacking, then go to a health food store or vitamin store; they're sure to have them.  At the very least you ought to be able to find acidophilllus capsules, although if you can find something like Digestive Advantage or Culturelle which have multiple strains of bacteria (acidophillus is just one strain), they'd probably help you more.  At a minumu, eat some yogurt, unless you have a milk allergy (shouldn't bother you if you are lactose intolerant). 
 
The thing about probiotics is that they can sometimes give you gas cramps, so whatever you chose, just take one pill or one yogurt container a day.  If you have gas cramps, keep to it; they should go away in a week or so.  If you're okay with the light dose after a week or two, then up the dosage.  As fas as any of us here are aware, you can't overdose on probioitcs; if there's not room in your intestines for them, they flush out of your system without causing any problems.  You need to be taking the recommended dosage (or even a little more if you notice they help you) for at least a month to get the full effect and to hopefully clear out all the nasties once-and-for-all.  If you're normal again after a month, then you can stop taking the probiotics, although you may want to take some every now and again just as a bit of a preventative, especially if you travel out of the country or the stomach bug is going around school/town.  You'll also want to take a large dose if you are on atnibioitcs for any reason so you can replinish the good bacteria that the medicine kills off along with the bad bacteria.
 
Some of the symptoms that you describe do concern me; namely the inability to lay down flat on your back without getting sick, being up sick in the wee hours of the morning, and spontaneous nausea.  These are some of the exact same symptoms I had when my gall bladder was bad.  I'm going to bump up my post on the symptoms of gall bladder disease; you should read through it and see if anything else sounds familiar.  The first problem you had may not have been gastro. at all, but a gall bladder attack.  Or the two may be completely unrelated.  But, either way, try the probiotics.  If your gall bladder is causing the problem, the probiotics won't help, but they won't hurt anything either.  Better that you have an intestinal imbalance that the probioitcs will cure than to have a bad gall bladder.  There's nothing to do for that but take it out. 
 
And be aware that even if you don't have all of the symptoms of a bad gall bladder right now that I had, you may develop them later; many of my symptoms developed over the course of 5 years.  It can be very hard to tell GB from IBS, but IBS generally doesn't make you nauseated--at least not a lot--and you rarely vomit with it, but vomiting is common with GB.  Also bright yellow, burning diarrhea or vomit is more in line with GB, although some IBSers can also have bile diarrhea.  And IBS does not often make people wake up during the night (although it does a few people).  And you may have doctors tell you that you're too young to have a bad gall bladder.  Well, I was 18 when mine started acting up, so that's not much of an age difference; it can get you anytime, even if it isn't as common in younger people. 
 
Don't let anyone tell you that it's in your head.  There are a lot of us out here who have constant gut problems.  My doctors thought I was a bit off at first too--they said I had IBS or that they didn't even know what was wrong with me--until the gall bladder showed up bad on a test.  Ha-Ha!  I DID have a reason for being sick.  See?  SEE?!?!  I wasn't crazy the whole time!  And whatever is causing you to be sick is real too, even if they can't find it on a test; diarrhea and waking up from sleep nauseated is not in your mind.  I'm an advocate of dragging doubting Thomases into the bathroom after a particularly nasty bout of diarrhea and pointing it out to them and asking them how come what's in your head is now in the toilet?  Lol. 

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   Posted 3/27/2006 3:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cat,
Welcome to the board! :-)
It seems as though everyone has pretty much covered everything.
I just want to add that drinking tea - mint, peppermint, fennel or ginger can usually help settle a nauseated stomach. It works for me!
FYI... If you take Pepto Bismol (as mentioned in the other post) it can turn your stool black, or really dark. So don't panic if that happens.
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sad123
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   Posted 3/28/2006 12:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you so much for all the replies! I am from England for the people that were asking. I have tried eating ginger cookies and also peppermint things but when I am feeling sick I never really want to eat anything. I cant really try any other drugs at the moment as I have just picked up an infection from school (there are some really nasty ones going round, they have even had to close many schools in the UK) and i am on paracetamol now as well as the motillium but I will definetly try them when I am a bit better. Its annoying becasue I cant tell if I am progressing as I keep getting infections where my immune system is low. I find that I get nauseas about 2 hours after I have eaten.

Thanks again for the replies :)
xx

Keriamon
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   Posted 3/28/2006 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Definitely try some of the probiotics if you are sick and especially if you're on an antibiotic. That can certainly mess you up even more than you would be normally (doesn't that suck, thinking of having one bowel disorder on top of another one?). Like I said, the probiotics won't hurt you any, even if you don't really need them. And the acidophillus pills especially are pretty cheap. I think mine cost $4 or $5 for a bottle of like 200.

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 3/29/2006 11:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Watch the peppermint. It can calm the stomach but it does create more acid reflux as it relaxes the LES valve to the stomach. It is a relaxant. I was taking the Peppermint, ginger and fennel capsules that were supposed to disolve in the intestine and not in the stomach to cause acid reflux and I was getting worse daily. I was constantly burping up peppermint so I knew it was a problem for me. Motilium has less side effects than Reglan and is so much cheaper it is unbelievable. Unfortunately dr. in the US can't prescribe it which is stupid as mine told it works very well and is safe for motility problems in the stomach. Now I just take ginger capsules for nausea though since I have been taking the DA I have not had the nausea after the first couple days. I was told to stay away from all dairy including yogurt because their are other things besides the lactose that the stomach cannot digest.

sad123
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   Posted 4/2/2006 3:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I am taking these multi-vitamins which have prebiotic nutrients in which should help. Now that the chest infection is going awy I am feeling slightly better. It is so much worse when you are feeling sick when you have a really bad sore throat!
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