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ryleigh
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   Posted 5/25/2006 3:58 PM (GMT -6)   
redface  Hi ALL,   Does anyone get really bad rectal pain...  I don't have hemi's...  The pain is so bad sometimes I feel like passing out...  I have adhesions from endometriosis and have had a full hysterectomy..  But I still get rectal pain a pressure..  Is it gas???  Thanks...

 

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dbab
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   Posted 5/25/2006 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi ryleigh,
You may be experiencing rectal spasms which is also known as Proctalgia Fugax. I get those sometimes and the pain is horrible. Sometimes feels like knives. Are you on any antispasmodics? This is what I take when I get them and it seems to help. Google proctalgia fugax and see if that sounds like what is going on.
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Keriamon
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   Posted 5/25/2006 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
We had a guy on here, I seem to recall, who also complained of that. I think he was diagnosed with something like "Chronic Pelvic Floor Pain"; I hope he's still around to share his experience.

Have you tried a hot soak to see if you can get it to relax any?

7Lil
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   Posted 5/25/2006 5:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi ryleigh,
All I did was add a subject to your thread. :-)
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ryleigh
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   Posted 5/26/2006 6:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Guys,   I have tried the bath and everything else..  I just need a new lower half!! haha  Thanks Again... :-)

Ryleigh


Chunky
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   Posted 5/26/2006 8:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum, I don't exactly fit in, I do not have IBS, I have just the opposite, I am constipated all the time which is horrible.
I am glad there is a place for all of you to vent your concerns and can help one another. I wish there were more people on here that suffer with the problems I am having that I can talk to.
Stay the course everyone you are definetly not alone, you have each other and that is a wonderful thing. God Bless you all.
Chunky

m&ms
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   Posted 5/26/2006 9:28 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi Ryleigh-

I also get the rectal pain!  Sometimes I'll be standing in line or something and out of no where the pressure and pain will start.  It is hard to describe it!  Sometimes it fells like my bottom will fall out?  Then it is gone as fast as it came.  I normally do not have a bm right after, so it must not be that.  I have IBS-D.  It happens about once or twice a week.


starrnr
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   Posted 5/27/2006 12:03 AM (GMT -6)   
I get rectal pain, badly. I generally will sit on the pot, pass gas and eventually I have a bm. Holy cow, it's painful - enough to make me cry and get really nauseus. Do you just have pain or do you go? I would really like to know what causes this and really want to know how to make it stop!!!

Chunky - I have severe chronic constipation and I also have Crohn's. Not everyone with IBS has D - lots of us also have C. You're certainly not alone.

Enjoy your weekend.
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ryleigh
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   Posted 5/27/2006 7:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Starr,   Sometimes I go and sometimes I don't...  There is no ryme or reason...   Before I had my hysterectomy I would get it really bad..   I do think some of it is female stuff...  Also sometimes I would get it after sex...  Which is so much fun... haha  Like I said before I need a new lower half!!!!!

Ryleigh


raggedroy
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   Posted 6/23/2006 12:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Im still being diagnosed with IBS. about three weeks ago I was also suffering with rectal pain, it felt like I had been kicked in there. As usual my Gp was really helpful (not). He prescribed me treatment for piles to reduce the swelling, which he said he couldn’t see. Anyway after I finished the treatment the pain has slowly faded.

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 6/24/2006 9:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Chunky, you can have IBS with constipation. You can have either or alternating D and C. There are many people on theis forum that have C though not the majority. If you do have C you need to have all the same tests and make sure nothing else is going on. If not then they will probably say you have IBS. It is a functional disorder not something wrong physically that they can see. If you are taking Calcium you might try cutting back on that to prevent constipation. Also, fiber helps some. You should not have chronic constipation and there are meds that will help so I hope you have seen a gastroengerologist to rule out anything more serious.

Dremr
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   Posted 7/19/2006 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
devil  I also get that  aweful pain in the rectum area.. I can be standing in line at the store and it hits me,lying in bed and woken up from a deep sleep. Anything!  The only relief I can get is to sit on the pot until it goes away.  I don't usually have a bm or anything, it just goes away as fast as it comes on.  Sometimes it lasts 30 minutes.  I have read about the UH proc fug thing and I believe that's what it is.. I have also had hysterectomy and endio removed.  Which I Believe started my IBS/d.  A few years ago, I started the Atkins diet and it took care of the IBS.  The only thing is, we've moved and I can't get Heavy cream anymore.  I used it and it didn't affect my lactose intolerance.  I'm a mess huh! haha.  I really watch what I eat now, but I still get the gas and diahrrea from some stuff and to make things worse, My dr. put me on welchol for cholesterol..... It's a real gas causer!  Anyone else have that problem?  I have stopped taking it and go back to the dr. next week.  There's something to be said about quality of life instead of longevitiy I guess.  eyes   Dremr

LondonGirl22
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   Posted 7/21/2006 12:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi I get rectal pain as I get rectal ulcers with my IBS and its a real bad throbbing pain and I feel so much pressure in the rectum area. I don't know why I get the ulcers, it just happens when Ive been constipated

PugandherPeeps
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   Posted 7/21/2006 2:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,
 First off I will tell you that I am not a doctor nor do I have any medical training. So please do not take what I say as a diagnosis or medical advice.
 If you could be a bit more specific about the pain such as when it occurs, how often it occurs, if it just when you expel gas, right after a bowel movement, how long the pain lasts, ect them perhaps some of us here at the forum could point you a little more in the right direction.
 I believe I can answer your question about the gas issue though. In my almost 48 years I have passed a lot of gas and so has hubby. Neither of us have experienced the severe kind of pain you described. I have had trapped wind before but my symptoms for that were lower abdominal pain and when I massaged that area the wind was expelled.
 Someone else replied that the cause might be Proctalgia fugax. Google nor askjeeves brought that term up but I did find it at another place. It is also known as rectal spasms so you might find more information if you researched that term. One word of caution (and boy am I guilty of this myself) is that you don't try to diagnose your symptoms, especially as severe as you describe by searching the internet and listening to the advice of us here at the forums (no offense to anyone here). I highly suggest that since the pain is so severe that you sometimes feel like you are about to pass out that you make an appointment with your doctor and have it checked out. It may be nothing serious at all and yet still it can indicate something more serious that might need medical treatment.
 Just in case you could not find the info on Proctalgia fugax here is the definition for you:
 
Definition: Proctalgia fugax refers to pain (sometimes severe) in the rectum. It can last from a few seconds to a few minutes and often occurs spontaneously during the night. Pain sometimes accompanies orgasm and there may be an urge to defecate. The pain is sharp and gripping but remains localized. Relief is spontaneous but some people find also relief from warm baths, or ice cubes (anything to disrupt the spasms). Medications, such as diazepam, may be prescribed in cases that are very regular and/or severe.
 I wish you the best,
Sylvia
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bbtee
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   Posted 7/30/2006 3:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Just discovered and joined this forum tonight! I am not glad to know that so many of you suffer from IBS, but I am (like many others) glad to know that I am not alone.

I have had to deal with rectal pain or spasms, too, and the pain is awful. The way I get through an attack is to use my thumb and forefinger and "pinch" in the center of my upper lip. I read this trick in Prevention magazine many years ago, and it really does work. You can still feel the pressure from the spasm, but the pain that literally makes you sick is greatly diminished.

I have used this when undergoing barium enemas, and it makes the procedure more bearable.

I'm so glad to have found you all, and I will check in often.

Best wishes!

7Lil
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   Posted 7/30/2006 3:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi bbtee,
Welcome to HealingWell! :-)
I am glad you found us and decided to participate. Thanks for sharing your pain trick with us. There are many on here who have a great deal of pain that probably wouldn't mind trying new things to help cope.
Hope you stick around and feel free to share any more stories or ask questions.
Take care.
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patchwoork
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   Posted 1/21/2008 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had this problem for many years and it occures once every few months or so. The trend is for it to start off slow and rise in intensity, sometimes up and down for around 30 to an hour. Sometimes it is just a low level of intensity and sometime it just about makes me scream. Nothing I do seem to stop it or even slow it down. From time to time it will start with a BM and once after orgasim. I'll try the lip pinch and see if it helps.
Take care.

gutastrophe
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   Posted 1/22/2008 12:21 AM (GMT -6)   
My GI doc gave me a nitroglycerin ointment to apply during an attack of PF.  There have been very limited positive results with this treatment. 
 
 

gutastrophe
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   Posted 1/22/2008 12:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Chunky said...
Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum, I don't exactly fit in, I do not have IBS, I have just the opposite, I am constipated all the time which is horrible.
I am glad there is a place for all of you to vent your concerns and can help one another. I wish there were more people on here that suffer with the problems I am having that I can talk to.
Stay the course everyone you are definetly not alone, you have each other and that is a wonderful thing. God Bless you all.
Chunky
Hi and welcome!  You absolutely fit it!  Please feel free to contribute and share!  There are many of us here who have IBS with predominant C and a few who are just dx with chronic C. 
All dysfunctional bowels are welcome!

Marsky
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   Posted 1/22/2008 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I've suffered with this ever since I had my sigmoid removed (rectal cancer, 1999). In fact when I was recovering from that surgery and awaiting a temporary colostomy takedown 2 months later, my bottom just felt very different. When I'd get up from a chair I felt like half of my bottom was left behind (no pun intended). And if I applied pressure (ie hand, over clothing) I felt much better. I was about to strap on a pillow, with belt to walk around it was so uncomfortable. That was my first observation I was entirely new down there. Then when these spasms started, OMG - they were so painful. When they occur it's as if the stool can't come out, and I'm restricted, which makes no sense but my doctor says it does. The walls of my colon become inflamed and irritated and then these spasms start up. I find that if I drink lots of hot tea, walk up and down stairs or even just stand in my bathroom, doing leg or knee lifts, it gets things moving and the spasms die down. All I know is it just feels like I am not big enough or my rectum has clamped shut. I hate when these spasms start up and 9 out of 10 times they've occurred I've been home - thank goodness.

Also a sitz bath helps too. You can add Aveeno or baking soda to the warm water.

Finally, massage and mind over matter mind tricks help too.

They are awful when they hit and they take a while to subside.

Hope you feel better.

Mary

Raea
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   Posted 1/22/2008 11:57 AM (GMT -6)   
If you are at home when it happens, I use alcohol free witch hazel toner on some cotton and it takes care of it for me, or at least helps the spasms end more quickly. WH also helps with inflammation too - and therefore I believe the pain. I actually carry a small bottle of it in my purse for emergencies.

TJB
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   Posted 11/24/2008 4:20 PM (GMT -6)   
OK. I have something significant to add to this discussion. I've had that deep anal pain off and on since high school. I'm male and now in my mid-40's, and I get it about once a month. I NEVER knew what it exactly was until about a half hour ago. Wow! It is definitely proctalgia fugax. It is the most excrutiating, toe-curling pain in your ass, and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it. Here's when I get it most frequently: If during a bowel movement, I really, really push too hard, I get it afterwards. It's bad. Here's the stranger one: I get it after a particularly intense ejaculation. Awkward to get this pain after sex. Awkward to say the least. It is the EXACT SAME PAIN I get after the pushing too hard during BM thing. It is like a knife is up my rectum. It lasts for anywhere from 5 minutes, to about 30. I also occasionally get it in the middle of the night, and it will wake me out of a sound sleep, it's that bad. It's the EXACT SAME PAIN in all three instances. Well, I'm relieved there's finally a name to it. Just wanted to share.

Johnny82
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   Posted 3/29/2009 1:15 PM (GMT -6)   
 
 
 
 
TJB said...
Wow! It is definitely proctalgia fugax. It is the most excrutiating, toe-curling pain in your ass, and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it. Here's when I get it most frequently: If during a bowel movement, I really, really push too hard, I get it afterwards. It's bad. Here's the stranger one: I get it after a particularly intense ejaculation. Awkward to get this pain after sex. Awkward to say the least. It is the EXACT SAME PAIN I get after the pushing too hard during BM thing. It is like a knife is up my rectum. It lasts for anywhere from 5 minutes, to about 30. I also occasionally get it in the middle of the night, and it will wake me out of a sound sleep, it's that bad. It's the EXACT SAME PAIN in all three instances. Well, I'm relieved there's finally a name to it. Just wanted to share.
I Also have suffered with this problem for years. The pain will last for over 30 mins. and usually will come in two waves, each lasting about 15 mins. It will come on slowly and after it peaks, will slowly disapate just in time for the second attack. I have never experinced the pain while sleeping, but like others, it will come on after an orgasm. YES, The pain is intense. After researching proctalgia fugax and finding out that the Romans were the first to give it a name, I found it ironic the the pain to me actually feels like a spear going from just below the belt line and coming out the rectum.
 
One other item, is that I also suffer from Esophageal Spasms. Seems that the two muscle spasms may be related.

butthurt?
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   Posted 4/3/2009 11:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I just wanted to let anyone who is interested know that when I have this pain, or suffer from hemi's, I use a small bit of vick's vapor rub, or any non brand vapor rub in that area, and it takes the pain and swelling away pretty much immediately.

pb4
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   Posted 4/3/2009 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
You put vics vapo rub inside your rectom??? Or do you mean you use it on your anus (butt hole), either way that might be a little risky, maybe too harsh on such a delicate area/skin.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

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