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Fluffytwo
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   Posted 9/30/2006 4:04 AM (GMT -6)   
:-)  Have colitis with diaherra (sp). Read on this board about taking Caltrate
600 D. Started last week and is helping so far. Anyone else use it with success. Can't find the page I found it on here. 
 
Been on many many GI prescriptions, not much help though. Have had IBS over 25 years.
 
Have had many colonoscopies confirmed much colitis, inflammation and removed polyps 3 times.
Was told once it was from gallstone removal and was put on Colestid. It was not helping much anymore. Thanx for any info.
 
Fluffytwo

Keriamon
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   Posted 10/2/2006 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I take Welchol for my lack of a gall bladder, but I also take calcium fairly often to give it a bit of a boost. I had a real bad spell last summer--I think from an allergic reaction to sugar alcohols--and the calcium is what finally got me back to my normal levels.

bluemeanies
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   Posted 10/2/2006 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Glad to hear the calcium is helping you. I take 600mg + D every day also. I have crohn's disease also but I do think the calcium helps a little.

Fluffytwo
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   Posted 10/2/2006 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the info. The calcium 600D is helping much, I seem almost normal. I take 3 a day , the last one at bedtime, I think it helps sleeping also.

I just am so happy this seems to be working. A friend that has Crohns (sp) her gastro told her to take it also.
Seems 3 of the cacium+D is the magic number. Taking calcium without D is bad I have heard.

I have been on most all of the ibs meds including prednisone. They even mention prednisone to me and I shiver. Didn't think I would ever get off of it.

Keriamon
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   Posted 10/2/2006 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know if the lack of vitamin D in a clacium supplement is bad or not--milk doesn't have much of it naturally--but they have found your bones don't really absorb much, if any, of the calcium without the vitamin D, which is why they add it to milk nowadays. If you're taking calcium for your guts, I don't think it matters much one way or the other, but you might as well try and give the old bones a boost while you're at it.

lnape
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   Posted 10/2/2006 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is the calcium information. I know it is a lot to take in but it may be will worth it to see if this simple solution can offer you the relief it has me and many others. You need to follow it as close as you can to get the best results. I know it sound too simple to work but it really does help a lot.

This is what has helped me for more than 8 years with almost daily attacks of urgent diarrhea after having my Gall Bladder removed. Calcium is known to be constipating so if you are that IBS type do not take it. All calcium is not the same. Here is the what and how to take the calcium information if you suffer from diarrhea.

Calcium is an OTC supplement we all do not usually get enough of. No Rx is needed to purchase this.

When you take calcium about 40% of the dose gets to the bones the rest is eliminated in our waste. The calcium goes to the intestines and soaks up excess fluids and binds them together and they are gotten rid of in our waste.

This is a process that can be continued by taking the calcium carbonate on a daily basis thus giving a more formed BM.

There is calcium carbonate which helps us with diarrhea and there is calcium citrate which is more easily absorbed by the body and gets to the bones but is not as helpful in controlling diarrhea.

A lot of the calcium supplements contain a 2 to 1 ratio of calcium to magnesium. Magnesium is not helpful for us with diarrhea only causing more in most cases. So, do not purchase this combination. It will only make things worse. Also if you are taking a multi vitamin with magnesium this may be a source of some of the problem if you are having diarrhea. Also for me vitamin A, C, and E seemed to cause me stomach upset. If you check this out your will see they too can cause diarrhea. It is better not to take a multi vitamin while trying to get the calcium to help.

The dose to take is different for everyone. I must take 3 a day one at each meal and it does not make a difference if I take it before during or after just take it regularly. Taking them at least 4 or 5 hours apart is also necessary so the calcium has time to go through the system and soak up excess bile and water. Sometimes, because of the long number of hours between dinner and breakfast it may be necessary to adjust your timing to taking one at bedtime with a small snack to get better results if you are a person who usually suffers from diarrhea in the mornings. I think the way it works is the dose you take prior helps with the current meal and the distress it may cause.

The most success has come from using any formula of calcium supplement that is like Caltrate 600 Plus with Vitamin D and Minerals in the purple and white box. This information is from the many users that have sent me emails and of the posters on the web sites I have dealt with. I hope this will help anyone wishing to try it and I am always here to answer any questions for you. I have a lot of feed back form many users.

You must also have some testing done to be sure you are not dealing with anything more serious. This is most important.
There are other things to consider. If you take any other meds check the side effects and also check with the Doctor or Pharmacist to see if taking calcium will interfere with your other medications and how you might take them. I know if you take thyroid meds it is important not to take the calcium at the same time but you can take the thyroid meds one hour before you take calcium or 4 hours after taking the calcium. The calcium will soak up the thyroid medication and you will not be getting the benefit from it. You should also look at the side effects of any other meds you may be on this can contribute to the success or failure of using calcium to help to control your diarrhea. You may also consider if you are constipated and taking calcium this may be the reason for your constipation. You can most likely switch to another form of calcium to relieve this also.

The only side effect is at the beginning of taking the calcium, you may have some gas or indigestion but this usually goes away soon after taking a regular dose for a few days as your body adjusts to the added calcium. For most it is about 3 days and it is important to start with the lower dose so you don't have the added distress and think the calcium is not helping but making you worse.

Starting with 1/2 tablet doses with each meal will lessen this problem and it may be enough to control the diarrhea attacks without making you constipated.

Constipation can be a problem so be careful not to take too much. It is safe for most of us to take 1800 mg a day as long as your body processes calcium correctly and you do not have some underlying problem. Check with your Doctor.

I had my gall bladder removed in 1976 and from that time on I had suffered urgent attacks of diarrhea. It is now known to me that is called Bile Salts Diarrhea. This happens to a good percent of people who have had their Gall Bladder Removed. I Went through a lot of test but nothing else could be found. I took many of the meds for bowel spasms and cramps over the years but nothing ever seemed to help. I started to take a calcium supplement to help prevent bone loss in later years and from the first day I felt relief. I was pretty much a prisoner to the bathroom or had to go without eating to be able to leave the house.

I must take 1 tablet with each meal and the diarrhea does not come back if I miss taking it I get diarrhea. It is a trial and error situation to find the right amount that may help you.

The way it works is the calcium carbonate it a binder and when you take it only about 40% of the calcium gets to the bones and the rest is gotten rid of in our waste. During that process it gets to the intestines and soaks up excess bile and water and helps give a more solid BM. Now that you have no gall bladder the bile fluid goes directly into the intestines and causes irritation and diarrhea. That burning yellowish color that you may see is the bile. The calcium carbonate soaks this up and no more diarrhea. It works great for a lot of us and you just have to take the calcium regularly and do not miss.

I started with Caltrate 600 Plus with vitamin D and minerals and it does seem to make a difference in the ingredients of calcium... This one seems to do the best job for most. You can buy other store brands of calcium with the same ingredients that work just as well but they need to have the same ingredients. I get Member's Mark Brand from Sam's Club you get 300 tablets for 8.99. I know Walgreens has their brand with the same ingredients and if you live in the UK Boots has been reported to have something similar. Let me know if you need more help. You won't be sorry if you try it.

I suggest starting with 1/2 tablet with each meal at first this may be enough to control the diarrhea if not in a few days up the dose to 1 tablet with each meal or any combination there of. The side effect is constipation so if you feel it coming on just stop taking it until you have a BM then start back on a lower dose. It is important to use a calcium that is as much alike as the Caltrate brand from the feedback I have gotten.

Let me list the ingredients:

Vitamin D 400 IU (The sunshine vitamin needed to help the body absorb calcium)

Calcium 500 or 600 MG (This should be calcium carbonate form) (Calcium is the most abundant mineral in the body. It is essential for maintaining strong bones and teeth. Calcium is vital to muscle and nerve function, blood clotting and metabolism.)

Magnesium 50 MG (No more than this amount because magnesium will cause you to have diarrhea but because calcium is constipating the magnesium helps to counter act that effect) (Magnesium is essential to build bones and is needed for muscle function, energy metabolism, trans-mission of nerve impulses and to make genetic material and protein.)

Zinc 7.5 MG (Zinc is necessary for some metabolic processes, normal growth and sexual development, and proper immune system functions.)

Copper 1 MG (Copper promotes iron absorption and is essential to red blood cells, connective tissue, fibers and skin pigmentation.)

Manganese 1.8 MG (Maganese plays an important role in metabolism and is also needed to build bones and tendons.)

Boron 250 MCG. (Improves calcium and magnesium retention. Similar improvements can also be seen in Vitamin D deficient post menopausal females.)

There are other brands with the same ingredients so get something as close as you can. Then start with 1/2 tablet with each meal and in a few days if this is not enough to control your diarrhea then up the dose to 1 tablet with each meal. If you feel you are becoming constipated then cut back on the dose. You may have to stop the calcium completely then start back after you have a BM at a lower dose.

It has been working since the first day I started taking it July 1998 and as long as I take 3 a day (this is the amount I must take it may be different for you) I remain diarrhea free. No cramps, bloating or diarrhea. No stomach noises, gas or pain. If I should happen to have a case of diarrhea for who knows what reason it is very short lived and not the pain involved like before and this I am sure happens to even normal people. It is usually a one shot deal and it is over.


The dose you take with each meal is not the dose that is helping you at that meal it is the prior ones that have time to works their way through you system to soak up excess bile and water in the intestines.

It also works for those of you who still have the gall bladder.

Take Care,

Linda

LNAPENTS@netscape.net

If you need help just email me.


Fluffytwo
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   Posted 10/2/2006 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Linda for th explanation. All I know is it is working and I can go out without worrying where a bathroom is.

Still take my safety supplies though.

Fluffytwo

CathyA
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   Posted 10/2/2006 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
HI Fluffy,
I can't function without Caltrate. I used to have diarrhea all the time, then discovered Caltrate. I can't believe my GI doc didn't tell me about it. Sometimes it slows my GI tract down a little too much, and I just don't take a dose or two. But sometimes if I miss a couple, my diarrhea comes back. I have noticed that I retain more water on it though.
I just wouldn't do very well without the calcium.

Fluffytwo
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   Posted 10/3/2006 12:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi CathyA,
I am glad you wrote, I have been retaining water, swollen feet and ankles, never thought of the Caltrate though. I take Lasix so doubled my dosage and it has helped. Won't stop the Caltrate, it has been a blessing. After so many years of diarrhea it is like a cure, I'm sure if I stop it the d would come back.

CathyA
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   Posted 10/3/2006 6:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Fluffy,
I know what you mean. Calcium has really made my life better.
One thing you might do is to stop the calcium for 2 days, maybe when you plan on being home.
I had a bone density exam, and I had to stop the calcium for a day or 2, and had a big diuresis (got rid of alot of water). Maybe that could be something you do every so often. Just be sure you'll be at home during that time.

lnape
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   Posted 10/10/2006 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone,

I have not had anyone say to me that the calcium has made them retain water. You may check with your doctors on that one. Life is a complete improvement for me since taking the calcium also and it has been over 8 years now.

Linda


Janniemaree
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   Posted 1/6/2008 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you so much everyone, I have just had for the last couple of weeks diarrhea due to IBS (I've always been the other way!) but read about Caltrate from here and it's amazing - once again thank you, Jannie :)
Janniegirl :)


Yowie
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   Posted 1/6/2008 9:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Linda, read your postings on the ibsforums.

I gave Caltrate 600 a go last year, it didn't seem to help all that much, so I stopped using it. Now i'm going overseas, and i'm giving it another shot. So far been on it for a 5 days, 4 per day.. one with every meal and one before i goto bed, and while it makes the D somewhat less watery .. i still have the urgency to go, especially in the mornings where i have to go twice before i leave the house. I'm really hoping if i stay on for the next couple of weeks, things might be able to return to a normal state... really really trying to stay positive at the moment. Keeping all my fingers and toes crossed i'll be alright to leave the country in three weeks time.

Cheers

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Keriamon
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   Posted 1/7/2008 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Yowie, I think 3 is the maximum number of the Caltrate pills you should take. You can get too much calcium and get kidney problems. 1800mg is the maximum I think that's recommended, which is three Caltrate pills. I certainly wouldn't do 4 for long (and especially not if you also consume dairy products, green veggies--like spinach--or calcium-fortified foods; you have to also account for how much calcium you consume in foods when figuring out how many pills to take).

lnape
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   Posted 1/7/2008 10:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Yowie,

If you want to email me maybe I can give you some added pointers to help with the diarrhea and taking calcium. 3 a day is what is safe to take if you process calcium normally. Always take it with food. Avoid lettuce and too must tomato sauce on your food.

Linda
Suffered Urgent Diarrhea Attacks After Having Gall Bladder Removed in 1976. This is now controlled by taking Calcium Carbonate.


aim928
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   Posted 2/10/2008 1:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Fluffytwo,

I have a few questions for you. You mentioned that past scopes have shown colitis and inflammation. So do you have IBD also?

The reason I ask is that I was diagnosed in my teens with IBS. But the D got worse and I went to a gastro dr and he scheduled a colonoscopy. my scopes showed inflammation as well, but when the biopsies came by it shows no colitis. But then I had a small bowel follow thru and it showed inflammation as well and so he thought I had crohns. But then I went back to him again after 9 months or so for a check up and talked to him in greater lengths and after reveiwing my scope results again, he said we may need to do another scope because maybe it was just a bad case of IBS gone haywire!

Thank you for any input!

Amy

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   Posted 3/15/2008 11:36 PM (GMT -6)   

 To Linda

 

I have suffered from the Chronic "D" for about 5 yrs I am currently taking 4 Welchol per day. I am getting ready to start the Calicum Regimate in the morning.

Question is this  :  Should I stop the Welchol all together or may be decrease it ?  What is your thoughts.  I have had 4 Colonoscpys in the past 5 years all seems well but inflamed but no pollucts . So after trail and error it seems to be the Bile/ Salt  Acids.  if I stop the Welchol for a day or so the "D" is complete liquid and YELLOW which my Doctor says is the Bile Acid. Burns and is causing some mild hemroids which the doctor says is normal with the Acid due to Bile in the system. Also says this is why the instine and colon are inflamed as well.

He has pretty well given up on my condition Welchol somewhat controls it but I get the Dizzyness (not often) and Loss Energy (feel run down allot)as all other users of this Med has.  He ( the doctor) all but said will almost have to just deal with it  Any Suggestions ?

I have also tried Colestid also to the almost same result. I also watch my diet NO Lettuce , Tomatos, Spice etc...

 

Thanks in advance


mae51692
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   Posted 3/18/2008 6:13 PM (GMT -6)   
WOW!!! What a wealth of information here. I desperately need some help for my son. Since he was 3 months old (now almost 13) he has had diarrhea and rectal bleeding off and on. Because he generally looks well, we've been blown off by many a doctor. However two years ago a GI specialist finally listened to me and began testing on him. One colonoscopy confirmed ulcerative colitis and two more after denied the presence of any ulcerative colitis. Every other test he's had has been normal and he continues to grow well. The stool leakage and bleeding has been nearly constant for the last year. I've been trying to find a better way to bind up his bowels in the hope that he will stop leaking. He is currently taking 3 doses of fiber a day along with an acidophilus tablet. Consequently he is allergic to milk so the Caltrate would do him some good. My questions is, does anyone here have any trouble with leakage of stool and/or bleeding? Thanks so much.

mae51692

jus323
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   Posted 6/27/2009 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I am new to this site... about a year ago i had my gallbladder removed and began to have D. I then went on birth control and it basically stopped the D. 3 weeks ago i got off birth control and the D came back! could it be that the birth control pills were retaining water and preventing the D??? can anyone help? I might want to go back on them because life is so hard when I have no control of the D confused

Mitzo
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   Posted 8/5/2009 7:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I am using the Caltrate for chronic d too. It seems to help but I notice I am feeling fatigued and maybe retaining water with it. It helps bulk the stool a bit but I still have urgency and soft stools, just not all liquid anymore. I wonder if taking a version without magnesium would be better?
23 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 


Mai-Lee
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   Posted 8/10/2009 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I just found this site ,looking for help with my IBS , after Gallbladdler surgery. I have tears in my eye just hoping this works ,I have been very sad about not being able to to enjoy my family get togthers, I'm leaving for the store  to buy caltrate 600 right now ! Thank you , Mai-lee
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