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gidgetgirl
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   Posted 11/5/2006 8:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone here done a colon cleanse? 
A full body cleanse?
 
 

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   Posted 11/6/2006 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   
The only time I have is in prepping for a colonoscopy.  I would not do that just to do that.  I don't believe it helps and that it may irritate your bowels.  Just my opinion.

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   Posted 11/6/2006 10:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi gidgetgirl,
Welcome to HealingWell! :-)
I think you'll find that most people here, and most docs, do not condone colon cleansing. It is dangerous.
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gidgetgirl
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   Posted 11/6/2006 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone here ever been treated or seen by a Naturopathic Doctor? 
 
I have been on a lot of different medicines, some work, some do not.  The ones that work have had side effects and eventually stopped working.  I am 34 yrs old, sick every day.  I am tired of being sick, with no answers or explanations or help from current doctors.  I have been researching alternatives and have come across some pretty impressive stuff concerning other forms of medicine. 
 
If anyone here has done the same, I would like to know your thoughts. 
Thanks-
 

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 11/6/2006 6:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't think there is one answer for everyone as all of us are so different. I don't know why a colon cleanse would help as within a couple days you have stuff back in there. You can accomplish that with any over the counter stuff they use for colonoscopies. I know what you mean about being sick though my IBS is pretty much gone I have other problems that aren't resolved but do becarful of what you read. If it is coming from someone that sells the stuff then be doubly careful. There are things like ginger, peppermint,etc that can be of help as can a heating pad. It just depends. No, the Dr.s don't know either.

gidgetgirl
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   Posted 11/6/2006 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   

I have been reading Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know about by Kevin Tradeau.

Interesting stuff in there.  I can totally see about 60-70% of what he is saying.........but the other 30-40% is kind of *weird*.

He does reccommend doing a natural colon cleanse as well as doing a full body cleanse.  He says a lot of our ailments can be traced back to our colons and the fecal build-up.  Most people maintain 10-12 lbs of fecal matter---------now that cannot be healthy.

I am looking at doing a full body cleanse----100% natural----herbs only.  Under a Naturopathic physician.......I have not had a consult with her yet-but I wanted to see if anyone on here has ever done one.  Apparently not though.  If I do decide to do it, I will let you all know the outcome.

Blessings-


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   Posted 11/13/2006 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   
We've had a few people on here try colon cleanses, but no one had permanent relief. From what I have seen, they can be useful for people with chronic constipation who need to get through two or three days without a problem, but other than that, there's no use to them that I can see. People with diarrhea are already cleaning their colons out regularly! Lol.

I don't buy that people have 10-12 lbs of fecal matter in their intestines at any given time. Or rather, I don't think that having fecal matter in your intestines is abnormal. Having a completely empty intestine is not normal. Your intestines are many, many feet in length and are part of the digestion process. Food in your intestines is still being broken down, still being absorbed by the body. So what you ate yesterday is somewhere in your intestines this morning. I seem to recall that food, in a normal person, takes 12-24 (maybe as much as 48) hours to make its way completely through the digestive system. So eating breakfast today will probably trigger a bowel movement that will release the waste from yesterday's breakfast, lunch and probably supper (since most people only go once or twice a day). And of course, when you eat, you're putting more matter right back into your intestines. It's like a converyor belt in a factory; there's always something moving down the line. Making yourself poop many times a day and stopping your food intake will empty the colon, but that's just not normal for it.

Please be aware that some people get worse after cleaning out their colon (whether from a colonoscopy prep or an herbal colon cleanse). The theory is that in flushing out the colon, they also flush out the good bacteria that helps digest their food and it can be hard to get replaced and it gets even worse if bad bacteria set up shop in the interim.

I'm glad you are looking at doing this under the guidance of a physician. Please don't be lured into a sense of false security by "100% all-natural herbs". There are plants out there that will kill you (after all, nightshade is completely natural--and a deadly posion). There are many more which will interact with conditions you already have or medicines that you are on and will make you worse or will kill you. For instance, some herbs are natural blood thinners or heart stimulants which can be disasterous for a heat patient to take or a person already on a blood thinner. And, as someone else pointed out, some herbs and supplements can cause diarrhea (which is NOT what people who have diarrhea want to have more of)--vitamins E and C, as well as magensium and aloe vera can all give you the runs.

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   Posted 8/10/2007 7:15 PM (GMT -7)   
It all depends on which colon cleansing product you try. Some colon cleansing programs use ingredients like Senna or Cascara Sagrada, which should never be used excessively (7days), and the colon cleansing program will last for 30 days, AND the company will suggest you do three-months consecutive cleansing!! I think that's something people need to be aware of.

I've suffered from constipation my entire adult life and I switched over to colon cleansers about two years ago. Mainly because all of the prescriptions and otc laxatives/stool softeners that my doc suggested never worked. I mean they would help, but I would have to take them everyday! And I would get cramps. I told him I wanted to find something different, because this wasn't helping. He was open to the idea of colon cleansers, and we looked at a couple of products together. It was very helpful.

I started taking colon cleansers because I was scared of the long lasting, ill-effects that laxatives were doing to my bowels. I've tried a couple of cleansers, some were better than others. But for me personally, I've found that colon cleansers were a great alternative to laxatives, when it came to relieving my constipation.

I don't want to say any of the products that I tried, because I don't want to promote any of them. But I really do believe that if used responsibly & correctly, then colon cleansing can be helpful to certain people.

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   Posted 8/10/2007 7:50 PM (GMT -7)   
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 8/10/2007 9:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I am confused on the colon cleanse. If you clean yourself out and don't ever just get back to a normal pattern of bowel movement then what good is it? What happens in the end. Do you begin to be normal or do you have to keep doing them to go? I don't see the difference in that and laxatives. I have a friend that is thinking about it for entirely different reasons as she read that the colon is the first place in the body to "go bad" since she doesn't have a problem with BM's and has other medical problems I am concerned that this is being touted as a miracle cure for everything. I just don't see it and think it could be very harmful. It seems to me they are just another form of laxatives.

gutastrophe
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   Posted 8/10/2007 10:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Canyonbabe711 said...
I am confused on the colon cleanse. If you clean yourself out and don't ever just get back to a normal pattern of bowel movement then what good is it? What happens in the end. Do you begin to be normal or do you have to keep doing them to go? I don't see the difference in that and laxatives. I have a friend that is thinking about it for entirely different reasons as she read that the colon is the first place in the body to "go bad" since she doesn't have a problem with BM's and has other medical problems I am concerned that this is being touted as a miracle cure for everything. I just don't see it and think it could be very harmful. It seems to me they are just another form of laxatives.


As someone who has used cleansing products for IBS C, the objective is alleviate the impaction which has compromised the colon's ability to move on it's own.  When your bowel is so full, peristalsis doesn't occur in an efficient enough manner to eliminate old waste.  These products don't "empty" the bowel completely.  They clear out enough impacted material to enable to colon to function properly.  I found they would help me get back on track for perhaps a week.  But as we know, nothing works forever.

In my experience, the more natural route is colon hydrotherapy.  My GI doc sent me for this treatment and I found it to be extremely helpful.  Instead of taking something, you are assisting the body in doing it's own work through natural means.  It's a very effective way to alleviate severe and chronic constipation.


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   Posted 8/11/2007 2:00 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm all about an alternative method for alleviating discomfort.  That being said, I'm also wary of colonic hydrotherapy - I've read reports of this treatment causing abscesses, intestinal perforation, and even life-threatening gangrene.  I'm not sure it's worth the risks!

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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 8/11/2007 9:28 PM (GMT -7)   
So how long does colon hydrotherapy last? these just sound like short term solutions.

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   Posted 8/11/2007 11:23 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Sarita!  I think those are "scare tactics".  I had this treament for close to five months, once a week.  I went to a fully licensced and professionally run clinic recommended by my GI doc.  They had a nutritionist and belly massage professional on the staff as well as the hydro therapists.  They will administer chloraphyl after a session to replace bacteria and settle the bowel.  I never had a problem in all the time I went.  Indeed, I leanred many tricks from the therapists about how to do belly massage at home, how to position oneself for better BM's (a small stool in front of toilet) and natural supplements as well as appropriate foods to help aid digestion.  It really was a life changing experience for me, as well as many others who went on my recommendation.

 

 


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   Posted 8/11/2007 11:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Canyonbabe711 said...
So how long does colon hydrotherapy last? these just sound like short term solutions.
In the 20 years I've been dealing with IBS, I have concluded that EVERYTHING is a short term remedy.  When I was first diagnosed, the doc's didn't even call it IBS.  I was told I had colitis or "lazy bowels"!  How's that for a medical diagnosis!
 
After a treatment, I would typically feel fabulous for about 3 to 4 days before symptoms would kick in again.  However, if I followed the nutritionist's food suggestions more faithfully, I probably would have been able to sustain the positive results longer.  My problem (if you could call it that!) was I would leave the clinic feeling like a "normal" person for the first time in 2 decades.  I would be so excited to have a quiet, flat, smooth belly that I would indulge in "bad" foods.  Considering the typical severity of my daily symptoms, I still felt that 3 or 4 days of complete relief was a gift from God.  The treatments also helped with my headaches and backaches. 

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   Posted 8/12/2007 12:21 AM (GMT -7)   

Gutastrophe, I'm glad it worked so nicely for you and others that you know.  The literature I've seen about colonic hydrotherapy discusses at length the inherent dangers in it (i.e., the abscesses, gangrene, etc.).  You can do a literature review if you do a search on PubMed.  This search engine has peer-reviewed journal articles by physicians all over the world and is typically the place I always go for research. 

Of course, there are inherent dangers in any treatment option, or in non-treatment.  There's risks in everything.  I just like to see both sides of the story :)


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gutastrophe
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   Posted 8/12/2007 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks!  I will do a search.  I too am interested in both sides of the story!

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   Posted 8/12/2007 12:41 PM (GMT -7)   
The nurse at my gastroenterologist office got all over me for using this powdered psyllium husk that had the name colon cleanse on the label. She said never to use that. It is just psyllium husk that is in metamucil. That's all but I won't be using it anymore. I threw it away already.

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   Posted 8/12/2007 3:44 PM (GMT -7)   
IMHO, colon cleanses are risky. I have relatives that went on a liquid fast for 10 days, no solids, etc. I just thought they were - crazy - ! Period. Why - to lose weight!

I feel awful each time I've had to do a colonoscopy prep. And I don't begin to feel normal again for about 2 days.

I just do not believe any of the hype out there, that they clean out packed stool from months, even years ago. Listen, I've had part of my colon removed and I go ALL the time! I know there isn't any residual stool left in there from 2006! LOL

I would be very, very careful if you try one.

Mary/Marsky

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   Posted 8/12/2007 11:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Marsky said...
IMHO, colon cleanses are risky. I have relatives that went on a liquid fast for 10 days, no solids, etc. I just thought they were - crazy - ! Period. Why - to lose weight!

I feel awful each time I've had to do a colonoscopy prep. And I don't begin to feel normal again for about 2 days.

I just do not believe any of the hype out there, that they clean out packed stool from months, even years ago. Listen, I've had part of my colon removed and I go ALL the time! I know there isn't any residual stool left in there from 2006! LOL

I would be very, very careful if you try one.

Mary/Marsky
Well, I've never used the colon cleanse products that you do yourself - the elixirs and pills and mixes.  I've only done the hydrotherapy and I can attest to the veracity of the claim! You can't even imagine what is inside you until you see it coming out!  It's positively astonishing!

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   Posted 8/14/2007 9:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,

Just thought I'd pop in. I have posted in other forums before, (cfs/fibro and others) but have ibs symptoms, and constipation all my life etc. so thought I'd drop by and see what news there is here. :0)

I did a candida colon cleanse, and my health improved tremendously. Also eliminating certain foods helped me: sugar, and wheat, and most dairy.

Question for the moderator: I thought we coudl post links re. products so long as we do not personally profit from them. This is what I read as posted by a different moderator - that it's okay to post products we don't personally make a profit from. Is that true or did I miss something? :0) Thanks. I'm asking because I am thinking it would be helpful to be able to recommend which cleanses help and which to stay away from etc.

In any case, 3 months can be necessary if someone has been ill for awhile - as in parasites . But often one month is recommended for some cleanses. You really need to listen to your body to know how long to stay on these things. If you're getting too fatigued or feel it's not working, don't keep on it. Also, it is common to feel worse for the first week or longer as your body starts getting rid of the bad stuff, and toxins get deposited into the blood stream on their way out.

And very importantly, it is good to build up to the dosage recommended. Sometimes a cleanse is too strong and you need to slow down. If in the midsdt of the cleanse, you're feeling it's too intense, or it's making you more constipated, it seems to be wisest to slow down or to take a break for a day or two until you no longer are feeling constipated and overwhelmed.

The cleanse I did I did strictly for five months. It worked well for me. No more constipation. More energy. BUt I also followed a low carb, no sugar, high fibre very healthy diet with it, which helped to clean me out and build up my health.

all the best, mb

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   Posted 8/14/2007 9:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Re. a full body cleanse - it doesn't make sense to me to stasrt with this. Having all body systems cleansing at once sounds like it would put a big strain on the body, especially if your bowels aren't working well. Definitely stasrt with a bowel cleanse, and go from there. You want your bowels to be working well to be able to eliminate the toxins.

Tip: I was very constipated during a cleanse, so I started taking cal-mag 250 mg. of each three times a day and no more constipation. It relaxes the bowels. But again, listen to your body, and see what you can personally handle. It does take experimenting to see what is best for you. And avoid cascara sagrada and senna if at all possible - as mentioned above, particularly not long term...

mb

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   Posted 8/14/2007 9:29 PM (GMT -7)   

I'll do a bit of research on this, but I feel hesitant about anything that promotes itself as a "cleanse." The thing is, the body is extraordinarily adept at "cleansing" itself - the outer layer of cells in your intestines sheds itself every day.  I wonder about the science behind these cleansers.  Those of you who steafastly promote a certain product, please do e-mail me (via HealingWell) - I'd like to see some peer-reviewed research.  That's just me, personally - I'm new to moderating, so let me check about posting a non-promotional site.  Thanks :-)


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   Posted 8/15/2007 6:59 AM (GMT -7)   
You also need to be extremely careful about the products and the websites you visit. My suggestion is to ALWAYS get your physician's approval on any kind of alternative therapy whether it be colon cleansing or whatever and be prepared to give your doc a list of the active ingredients in the product. Doing your own research on a product is not a bad idea also.
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   Posted 8/15/2007 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   

Hello All and IMHO you have a right to your choices, however as a nurse that did many bowel preps over the years..............Yes that was enemas until fluid returning was clear.  Never, ever did I have to deal with 10-12 pounds of poop. Now remember we are talking about colon cleansing.............that is the large bowel.

Here is just one bit of info I took from a random site on their product which promises miracles and a loss of 15 lbs...............

6 Month Supply: $215.70

Please be very careful and talk to your GI physician before you purchase any product. This is not a one time procedure. You are expected to continue the use of product.

Take Care of you :)



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