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desert_88
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   Posted 12/28/2006 8:52 AM (GMT -7)   
everyone talks about what not to eat, but it seems to me that it is everything, so my question is can I eat bread, pasta(which kind), rice, honey, home fried food, some cold beverage, soup ?!

7Lil
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   Posted 12/28/2006 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi desert,
Welcome to HealingWell! :-)
It'd be great if you could tell us a little about your situation... Do you have IBS-C, D or A? Are you in pain? On any meds? Etc.?
As for what you CAN eat.... The norm seems to be simple foods. Rice is good pretty much across the board. Bread and pasta seem to be OK, as long as you don't have a wheat intolerance or Celiacs. Seems most of us can handle white meat like chicken, pork, and fish (doesn't include shrimp). Red meat is a bit trickier. I would say potatoes, because mashed potatoes are so soothing to most, however there are some here that can't handle it (not sure why???). Honey is probably OK as it is naturally sweet. Most added sugars are not tolerated so well. Most juices are a no-no but cold water is always OK. I'd stay away from carbonated drinks too. Chicken soup is always good. Home fried food is absolutely a NO-NO. It's just as greasy. I like to bake my french fries and bread my meats and put them in the oven. Breaded pork chops and chicken breasts taste just as good, if not better, than anything deep fried.
I hope that helps a bit. Hopefully someone else will be along shortly to add.
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Keriamon
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   Posted 12/28/2006 11:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Deep-fried foods are pretty much a no-no, but I don't have a problem with pan-fried stuff. I use either a little canola or olive oil to pan fry my stuff (like potatoes) and I don't have a problem with it. I can even eat my grandmother's fried chicken because she pan fries it in just enough canola oil to cook it. Then she wraps it up in a thick paper towel and soaks the excess oil off the surface. I can't handle any other kind of fried chicken but hers--except for Chick-Fil-A. They deep fry everything in peanut oil, and I seem to be immune to this. A pretty good rule of thumb is that trans fats (most all fast food is cooked in this, as well as the sort of junk food you find in the gas stations and vending machines, like Little Debbies and Ho-Ho's and the like) will ruin you. Peanut oil, canola oil and olive oil are considered good fats (for your heart) and, I have found, don't bother me. I think vegetable oil is a bad fat, though, so avoid it too, as well as Crisco.

Avoid all caffeine. I get a little bit in my green tea, but that's the most I can handle. Remember that decaf coffee still contains caffeine, so it's not a viable alternative. If you like colas, but hate the nasty taste of caffeine-free Cokes (I sure do!), then I recommend Stewart's Fountain Colas. They have a black cherry cola that's EXCELLENT. You'll never go back to Cherry Coke again. They have no caffeine in them and VERY low carbonation. IBC also puts out a black cherry cola that's easier to find in regular grocery stores, but doesn't taste as good, in my opinon. I get the Stewart's at Fresh Market or Harris Teeter. I think I've seen them in our big Kroger too. They're not in the small Food Lion, though. They both are made with high fructose corn syrup (what's not these days?), so if you suspect a problem with sugar, you'll have to avoid them too. They're kind of pricey, so I never drink that many anyways.

Scrappyjrt
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   Posted 12/28/2006 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I eat whatever I can tolerate.............red meat does not hurt me at all. I bake sweet potatoes and eat those,but stay away from all raw stuff, veggies will rip my colon to shreds. No salads or raw fruit,I do miss the crisp bite of apples, and the juiciness of fresh peaches. Everything that you are supposed to eat with IBS and UC,like fiber,just tears me up. Heck,eating is over-rated anyhow. When my guts are mad,I stick to clear liquids. They are not just irritable,they are real mad! I suppose this is real bad advice..............so it's not advice,just my own experience. I used to love to eat,now it is a chore. When my colon is not all full of food,I just feel better. And,since my rectum is prolapsed,seems like the weight of the food makes it worse. Food has become my enemy now.

 


Keriamon
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   Posted 12/28/2006 1:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Scrappy, I can't do fiber supplements either. I took a chewable pill when I was on a diet and was having problems with constipation, and it made it worse. So I tried them some time later when I was having diarrhea and it made that worse too! So you're not the only one who can't handle fiber.

I also refer to my guts as being "mad" sometimes. When I was having gall bladder problems, I made meals off hot dogs and Carnation Instant Breakfasts because it was about all I could eat and not feel queasy immediately. But when it wasn't acting up, I'd overeat a lot to make up for it. So now that it's out, my eating habits are all screwed up and I'm having a tough time not overeating.

Scrappyjrt
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   Posted 12/28/2006 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Well,I should have mentioned the fact that I WILL binge,even knowing that it will make me sick! Now my whole digestive system is really bad,from the esophagus to the rectum. How can one person have so much wrong with them? Dr says UC and IBS are the same.............so why do I see 2 different sites here? Where do I belong,at UC or IBS? Keriamon,I noticed you mentioned your gallbladder,I had it removed 3 years ago. I still vomit,but now it is a awfull dark green color,and really burns. I believe I am vomiting the bile that cannot be broken down by the gallbladder, and that it is tearing up on my stomach. I am always getting gastritis,another general term for stomach problems. If the Dr isn't doing a colonoscopy,I get the endoscopy and have the esophagus"stretched" so I can swallow any solid foods easier. And thats where he finds ulcers,in the upper duodenum. Most times,it is H pylori, sometimes just a small bleed.
    1. Do I have IBS or UC? My Dr.can't seem to make up his mind


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   Posted 12/28/2006 3:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Scrappy,
UC and IBS are totally different.  UC is an Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) that affects only the Large Intestines, IBS is a syndrome characterized by dysfunction of motility and sensation (with no inflammation) throughout the
bowels.
This is taken straight from www.UlcerativeColitis.com:
Irritable bowel syndrome Vs ulcerative colitis:

1. The most crucial point is that no significant abnormalities like inflammation or ulceration are seen upon examination of the colon in patients with irritable bowel syndrome. But those with ulcerative colitis have inflammation in the colon lining that can be seen by a doctor when the colon is examined.

2.  In patients with ulcerative colitis this inflammation may lead to symptoms of diarrhea, but not usually constipation, and not always with abdominal pain. While alternating diarrhea and constipation is hallmark of irritable bowel syndrome.

Another way that ulcerative colitis can be distinguished from IBS is that people with ulcerative colitis may have rectal bleeding, a symptom missing from IBS.
 
I hope that helps you.  Usually both can be diagnosed through a colonscopy with biopsies taken.
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 12/28/2006 5:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Scrappy, you sound like me either getting the endo or the colon. What a bore. I have gastritis with polyps on and off and seem to just get rid of one thing when they find something else. Now I have hyperplastic polyps in duodenum which Dr. says are caused by excessive acid so now it is a year and I am due for another endo. I will stretch it by 6 months and do the same with the colonoscopy. figure I will have less of them before I leave this planet that way. LOL. I never know what will set me off but I do know if I stick to chicken, fish, rice, mashed potatoes, noodles it calms everything down. Also take the probiotics and a lot of gas pills. Lately I have been waking in morning with low gut pain which is something new and goes away once i get up and moving. this is certainly one puzzle in my life I can live without.

desert_88
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   Posted 12/29/2006 12:25 AM (GMT -7)   

                       Thank you all, just reading what you guys write in the forum helped me emotionally and sorry for my poor language, I'm not a native English speaker and I wouldn't mind if you correct my grammar mistakes :-)  

 

I haven't been to a doctor, I had many concerns, embarrassment, the colonoscopy and other diagnosis test, and the final result which is there is no cure, you have to find out which food you can tolerate, it is something that everyone does, there is no reason to be ashamed of etc. just thinking of it makes me really mad. 

 

I'm afraid that if I went to a doctor and he said to me  you have IBS I'll not be able to handle it, I'm living with this false hope that I'll have my normal life again soon, and it has been almost 6 years of suffering with uncontrollable flatulence all the time, chronic constipation with a sudden urgent need of having a bowel movement, stomach fullness and indigestion.

 

Actually, just today I decided to have a food restriction, and I should tell you that I'm in love with food sad .  I didn't know what to eat for breakfast, because I always eat eggs, cheese and all the diary products, cornflakes, jam, tomato, cucumber,  lettuce. Guess what? I ate 2 slice of brown  toast, nothing on it mad with honey dissolved in a glass of water. For lunch there was b├ęchamel meat pasta, green salad and lentils soup, I told my mother I have my period and she made a hot regular soup, I was starving so I ate biscuits. The same problem occurs around dinner time, I ate 2 slice of brown toast with thyme.

 

I'm still hungry and I have a minor thalassemia, which gives me a headache sometimes, when I don't eat well.

 

Do you think I should go to a doctor ? or it seems IBS ?

 

If I start taking probiotics, fiber tablets on a regular basis, is it enough for the flatulence ?


Scrappyjrt
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   Posted 12/29/2006 10:22 AM (GMT -7)   
I started the probiotics 7 days ago.They help me....why did my Dr NOT tell me about this treatment? The relief was immediate ! A little gassyness,but even that helped! (thanks that I was home alone,lol) Then I added the fish oil 2 days later. That also helped! I am still on all my regular meds,though. I figure it can't hurt you,so give it a try! 7Lil,the only symtom I don't have is rectal bleeding. Last attack threw me into the hospital,this time with ISCHEMIC colitis. A blood clot in my colon. That was 3 months ago. The clot came because I have a genetic gene mutation called Factor V Leiden,my blood clots too much. So I also am on Lovenox injections 40 mg each day. I started out on Coumadin,but that caused the colon bleed. My GI DR. does not know that much about the FVL,so I have a Hemo-Oncologist for that issue. But I did find out something very interesting. Many FVL pts have colitis, Crohns, and other gastric problems, also immune system deficiencies. So I also look for clotting ,even though I am on the Lovenox. If I clot now,the dosage will be upped.         Desert-88,you will handle it,believe me. You will get drugs that will help to alieviate your symtoms,and will be more comfortable. Go to the Dr,you are not alone!                  Scrappy smurf
    1. Do I have IBS or UC? My Dr.can't seem to make up his mind

Post Edited (Scrappyjrt) : 12/29/2006 9:26:09 AM (GMT-7)


Keriamon
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   Posted 12/29/2006 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Scrappy, a large part of your problem (nothing says you can't have more than one at a time, unfortunately) may very well be your lack of a gall bladder. That's what my problem is. Doctors tell you that you'll be perfectly normal afterwards, but this is false. You see, the vast majority of people who get their gall bladders out suddenly, and immediately afterwards, develop IBS and/or GERD. Hmm... I wonder if there is a connection???

If you are having problems with diarrhea, try getting your doctor to give you a prescription for Welchol. It's a cholesterol medicine, but it has the interesting side affect that it absorbs bile in the instestinal tract. GI's are starting to figure out that, hey, this helps people with too much bile in their intestinal tracts. I've been on it nearly three years and I don't know how I managed to live without it the first year after I got my GB out. I'm realitively normal (especially compared to most on here).

My GI's nurse said of people without gall bladders: the bile either goes up, or it goes down. The green stuff you're vomiting is most assuredly bile. The GB doesn't break down bile; it just releases it at the appropriate time so the bile can break down your food. Without one, your liver just drips it out continously. When you eat something that typically requires more bile to break it down--like fat--then I think your liver gets cranked up to produce more. Only it's not producing it right when you need it, but after the fact. Which leaves you with more bile than you need spilling down into your intestines or backing up into your stomach.

If certain foods made you sick when you had your bad GB, continue to avoid them now. Because of the Welchol, I can tolerate a lot more than I could without it, but caffeine is still my number one enemy. I can tolerate some in chocolate and green tea and that's it. Remember that decaf coffee still has caffeine in it. Diet medicines, appetite suppresants, and "no-doze" pills are full of it--enough to make normal people sick a lot of times. Also avoid anything deep fried (if you pan-fry at home in olive or canola oil, you should be okay) and avoid all trans fats. Also, red meat, due to its higher fat content, is going to make you produce more bile, so go light on it.

I don't know if the Welchol will help absorb bile in the stomach, and from what I hear, proton pump acid inhibators aren't that helpful (bile isn't the acid they inhibit), and they are starting to find that they are not good to be on long term anyways, because they appear to cause bone loss and greatly increase your chances of getting a bacterial infection in your intestines. It's not for certain if OTC acid reducers cause the same problems (since they are in a different category), because most people take them as needed, not everyday at high doses, like Nexium or Prilosec. One of the best things I think you can do for the acid in your stomach is eat frequently. The food will help absorb that extra bile and hopefully keep you from vomiting it up all the time. An empty stomach is always the worst thing for a person with acid problems. You might want to keep granola bars or rice cakes around to munch on in between meals to keep something on your stomach all the time (without making your liver produce even more bile).

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 12/29/2006 3:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Dessert, you do need to go to a Dr. and have the tests to rule out anything more serious. Personally I would want to know that every thing else was ruled out. I think if you would try a more bland diet for a while it might help along with some gas pills and the probiotics. You previous diet would really do me in big time, lentils are gassy, cheese is constipating. Try staying away from all dairy for a week, all gassy veggies, raw veggies and fruits and see if it helps. Stick with chicken, fish, rice, pototoes and noodles and cooked veggies and see if it helps then add things back slowly. And try the Acidophalous or the Digestive Advantage from the drug store. Good luck. I assume someone corrected you post since it looked fine to me.

That info on the PPI's that came out recently is going to really make a difference for a lot of people. I have gone back to either Pepcid or Tagamet for awhile. I have a really, really bad acid problem so I have to have something.

desert_88
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   Posted 1/1/2007 2:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi .. I really appreciate all of your help and support. I'm not ready yet to go to a doctor, but I bought fiber tablet, probiotic and charcoal tablet. the fiber and probiotics from puritan's pride, and I didn't find beano so I bought the charcoal, is it good enough? and why is it good to take fiber tablet and not eating food containing fiber ?


anyway I'll start taking them, hopefully something good is going to happen.

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 1/1/2007 4:33 PM (GMT -7)   
It is harder to digest high fiber things when our stomach is out of balance. As for the charcoal that is for when you have the gas whereas the Beano prevents gas. You need to drink a lot of water with the fiber tablets.

desert_88
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   Posted 1/2/2007 1:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanx canyonbabe, could you give me the generic name of beano, it seems very useful.

desert_88
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   Posted 1/2/2007 8:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi again... I found the answer , it is ALPHA-D-GALACTOSIDASE, I'll go to the drug store yeah

axelsmom1
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   Posted 1/10/2007 3:32 PM (GMT -7)   
You guys sound just like me - if I eat sugar I get very sick. If I overeat on ANYTHING, I get sick. I have to avoid high fat and sugary foods but sometimes I slip up and eat it anyway, despite knowing what'll happen. I'll get this horribly sick feeling in my stomach and then next thing you know I'm constipated, have terrible intestinal bloating, etc.
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