A little freaked out IBS or Gall (sp?) Bladder?

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Annabelle15
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   Posted 1/12/2007 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Okay, I've just read through several of the postings and I can't belive my eyes. This is what I think I have (IBS) and now its all starting to make sense. But I still have a few questions if any one can help.
 
I definetly go through the stages of pellets, to really long and loose, to just straight D, then constipation and back again. But for the past week, something new just came on. First I thought it was food poisioning. I felt like I could literally feel everything that I ate travel though my stomach. Then crazy bloating and gas that wouldn't really produce anything. Now I've had D, but not real bad, just sorta loose? But its about 3-4 times a day for about 4 days.  This sorta thing has  never happend. I have zero appetite. I've been drinking a lot of smart water so as to not get dehydrated. I've never had all this stomach pain though...its always been more lower abdominal cramping. Any thoughts?
 
But here's the real thing. I never thought that a gall blader issue could spark some of these symptoms. And recently I traveled to India (side note, not a good place to go when you have IBS) and was diagnosed by an omchee, a natural-pathic doctor. This woman didn't know me from Adam mind you, not where I was from or my age, symptoms, nothing. I just sat in a chair and she silently listend to my pulse for a few moments. Then she said "You need to stay away from garlic and greasy/fried foods. You may also want to keep an eye on your gall bladder."
 
So when I stumbled across this message board, I'm relieved to know that maybe some of you may have some suggestions? The India trip brought on a 15 pound weight loss, which I have never re-gained. Before the trip my doctor recomended a colonoscopy because he thought I had IBS but more the constipated form. I didn't do it because I chickened out. My dad has had ulceritic colittis since he was a kid and I guess it could be inherited?
 
I guess there are about 100 questions above, and if anyone has any thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Its scary as you probably know.
 
Thanks.

Keriamon
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   Posted 1/12/2007 9:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, UC is passed on through the genes. But it doesn't always manifest as UC. Some people with UC in their family only ever have IBS. Some people with Chrohn's (an autoimmune disease) in their family end up with fibromyalgia or rheumatoid arthritis or some other autoimmune disease. So it's possible to manifest a similar problem as another family member without it being the same problem. In other words, you may very well have just plain IBS. But you'll never be sure without the colonoscopy.

Have you been checked for third world parasites? It sounds like you had symptoms before your trip to India, but they've changed since then. Weight loss is one of the indicators for parasites, as is pain. I know when my husband went over there, he was cautioned to only use bottled water to brush his teeth since even the 5-star luxury hotels can have bad water, and he was not to open his mouth in the shower, etc. So apparently it's not hard to catch something from even a small ingestation of the local water. You should see a GI and make mention of your trip and ask to be tested for the the big range of parasites (because normal American parasite testing is only for the three or so that are catchable in our country).

Have you looked at my posting "The Definitive Guide to Gall Bladder Disease" to see if your symptoms match anything I list there? I have read about someone going to a doctor like you described and having that doctor diagnose her shoulder problems just through taking her pulse and looking at her tongue, so you shouldn't entirely discount the person you saw. (Although the woman in the article got some relief from Chinese massage and acupuncture, she didn't get fixed until she found a specialist doctor in the US with a really odd treatment program.)

Annabelle15
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   Posted 1/12/2007 10:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Keriamon, thank you so much for your reply. I am a bit freaked out about the parasite deal. I was OCD about Bottled water when I was over there and NEVER drank from the tap or anything. I just sent an email to a friend of mine from the trip and asked her if she'd ever heard of anyone else getting sick after (they've run these same excursions for 5 years) and she said she hadn't heard of anyone having issues like this. Especially such a sudden on-set 6 months after getting back.

Oh I don't discount the omchee! It was all just so shocking. She read me like a book!

I am going to scout out your posting now, again, thanks for the advice.

Keriamon
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   Posted 1/12/2007 1:00 PM (GMT -7)   
There is one type of parasite here in America that can be absorbed through the skin (ringworm, I think), so even if you were careful about your water intake, you may have picked something up by simply handling something, especially if you went into any slums as part of relief work.

Have you tried probiotics? A lot of cases of IBS are thought to be caused by (at least initially) by bad bacteria. That's easy enough to pick up in the States, much less abroad. People with pre-existing stomach conditions seem to pick up other things a lot easier. I used to have a cast-iron stomach, but after I had my gall bladder taken out, it's become very sensitive. And not just to food; antibiotics tear me up and leave me messed up for ages; they never did that before the gall bladder came out. Stress also upsets my guts and it never did that before my surgery either.

Sarita
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   Posted 1/12/2007 1:46 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey Annabelle, welcome...I wanted to comment on the parasite issue.  Generally speaking, acute parasitic infections are characterized by symptoms such as high fever, profuse, watery diarrhea (up to 20-30 times per day), vomiting, rapid weight loss, etc. 

There is one, though, called Giardia lamblia; it's an especially common parasite (even found in the U.S. on a regular basis) and can cause bloating, gas, and foul-smelling loose stools...so that'd definitely be worth checking out.  It's highly treatable with anti-parasitic/bacterial drugs like Flagyl and Ciprofloxacin.

I lived in Africa and had a chronic parasitic infection for years where I had diarrhea 20-30x/day, intermittent fevers, weight loss, etc. and it was miserable...I was initially diagnosed with Giardia and amoebic dysentery, and who knows what else was in there!  I was treated with Flagyl and Cipro so many times I've lost count, but I'm finally better.

Sounds like you've had gut issues for a while; it'd definitely be worth getting a colonoscopy and giving three stool samples to your local microbiology lab for their perusal!

 


UTMick
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   Posted 1/17/2007 6:36 AM (GMT -7)   

My IBS-C symptoms started about 5 months after emergency surgery to remove gall bladder.  Gastroenterologist says no connection, but I still believe that was the trigger.

 

Mick


Keriamon
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   Posted 1/17/2007 9:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Too many GIS mistakenly believe that you can remove the gall bladder and expect to be perfectly normal. The appendix is the only organ that provides little to no function whatsoever; the gall bladder works everyday of your life. You can live without a lung, but your marathon days are over; you can live without a gall bladder, but your days of eating everything under the sun with immunity are over.

I had problems with bad C for a while after I got my gall bladder out. The culprit behind it (because I normally have D) was a very low fat diet. My mother says you have to have fat to stay regular. If you are on a low-fat diet, you might consider upping your fat intake and see if that fixes your C problem. A lot of people without GBs have D, but some have C. I did a little bit of research online when I was having my C and found a product called bile salts. Apparently it's an old remedy for constipation. I couldn't find any in my local chain drugstore, though, so you may have to order them online. But they're supposed to replicate the bile that you're no longer producing in suffcient quantities to break down your food.

You can also try the old standby remedies of more fiber and prune juice. You can also try aloe vera capsules (found in any vitamin section); they are a natural laxative. Make sure you're not taking calcium via supplements (unless prescribed), as it is naturally constipating. Magnesium, on the other hand, is a natural laxative.
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