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sunshine323
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   Posted 2/26/2007 9:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I'm so glad I've happened upon this forum, because it's so nice to know that other people are suffering from the same stuff that I am. It is relieving for me to know that other people suffer from nausea with their IBS as well, because that's one of my main symptoms (aside from bad gas and bloating). I'm sort of atypical, in that I don't have diarrhea all that much (only when I have a severe attack), but I do suffer from some constipation. My symptoms, especially the nausea, are always worse at night - does anyone else have this problem?
Tonight has been really bad, and I wanted to get to sleep by about 10:00 because I have to wake up early tomorrow for clinicals (i'm in my last semester of nursing school), but of course, the nausea and gas had to kick in right as I was becoming drowsy. It's ridiculous, but I have this intense fear of vomiting, which generally tends to make the nausea worse, just because of my anxiety about it. I'm just so sick of it - I try to eat correctly, I take peppermint oil, I drink peppermint tea when my tummy feels really bad, but there's just no telling what weeks will be good and what weeks will be bad. I don't even have that severe of a case, so I don't know why I'm complaining so much - I'm just so tired of being sick to my stomach. Ugghhh.

7Lil
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   Posted 2/26/2007 10:27 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi sunshine,
Welcome to HealingWell!  :-)
It sounds like you may have IBS-A (alternating between C & D).   I too have a phobia of vomiting and I also get a lot of nausea.  Have you tried ginger yet?  The peppermint might be a bit acidic for an upset stomach.  I have to commend you though... I would love to be a nurse but I just don't have the stomach for it.  How do you do it?  tongue

Are you taking any meds to help control your symptoms?  How about probiotics?  Lots of us have found Dannon Activia yogurt to be super beneficial for bloating and regularity.  Many of us also found Digestive Advantage to help with those same symptoms.

Don't worry about complaining on this site - that's what we're here for.  We're here to listen and to help each other.  After all, most of us don't have people who understand what we're going through.  That is why this site is so great... We can gripe all we want and talk poop with people who understand.  tongue


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sunshine323
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   Posted 2/26/2007 10:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm not really bothered by much, except for vomiting (ironically enough) and things like severe trauma or burns and stuff like that. I want to be a NICU nurse when I graduate - I got to do a jan-term class there, and it was WONDERFUL. Plus, bitty babies like that don't vomit, really, they just sort of regurgitate their formula, which I can handle.

Also ... this is random, but I've seen a lot about gallbladder issues on here too. What's the difference between that and IBS - I've never been tested for gallbladder-related problems.

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   Posted 2/26/2007 10:45 PM (GMT -7)   

Wow, the NICU... that's awesome.  I bet it will be super rewarding.  I have to admit though, the sadness of innocent baby problems and deaths must be so heartbreaking.

This is the thing with IBS, docs don't know why people get it.  Some people with IBS really have a bacterial overgrowth, a parasite, h. pylori, gallbladder problems, etc.  The list goes on and on because confusing GI problems can just get lumped in with IBS.  Have you read Keri's post about Gall Bladder Disease?  A couple of the main symptoms are nausea, pain and bile diarrhea.  The D is usually green or yellow and it burns your anus on the way out.  You can always ask your doc for an abdominal ultrasound to check for gallstones.  Or, you can ask them to be more specific and go for a HidaScan to check the functionality of your gallbladder.


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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 2/26/2007 11:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Sunshine, it sounds like this is pretty tough with all you have to do to get a nursing degree. I know I could never do it. I wanted to comment on the peppermint. Peppermint settles the stomach but it really can cause more gas and acid which can cause more nausea and more stomach problems in the long run. It only takes care of the discomfort short term. For the nausea I would try Ginger capsules or a combination of Ginger, Fennel and Peppermint but make sure the peppermint disolves in the intestines and not in the stomach or in the end you will be worse. The reason for this is that peppermint along with chocolate and alcohol relax the valve at the end of the esophagous and allow stomach acid to come back into the esophagous. You won't always know this is happening. Try the Digestive Advantage IBs or another probiotic. You might also find that anxiety is a major part of this. WE swallow air when we are anxious and that can cause gas, nausea, etc. Try not to drink cold things and stay away from carbonation. And don't drink anything when you eat as you will take in more air that way. good luck. I wish you well. You are to be commended.

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   Posted 2/27/2007 11:53 AM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Lil that it does sound like you could have gall bladder problems. You mention getting sick at night, which is fairly common with a bad GB. Do you feel less nauseated when you sit up or stand up? Laying down always made my symptoms worse (pain, nausea, etc.), and that too is a fairly common symptom. You also mention getting diarrhea when you have an "attack". Is it ever yellow or green in color and does it burn and burn? If so, then you really need to have your GB checked because that's the symptom of having too much bile in your stools. Some people get that without having a bad GB, but in combination with everything else, it's a pretty good indicator of just GB disease. Other symptoms are feeling full, even after eating only a small amount of food, of having pains along the right side of your body, or in the upper half of your body, including across the diaphram and aches up into the right shoulder, arm and even down to the elbow.

The other thing to look into is acid reflux. Acid reflux can cause you to feel nauseated and it's worse when you lay down (easier to reflux). As Canyon says, peppermint can cause that to be worse, since it relaxes the valve between the stomach and esophagus. Good when you need to let out a burp, bad when you have acid that's prone to come up anyways. You can try some OTC acid reducers to see if this helps, as well as propping yourself up more on pillows when you go to sleep at night. Acid reluf, though, shouldn't cause your D attacks, so look at the GB first. While D is very common with a bad GB, you can have periods of constipation while still having a bad GB (I did because I was naturally a bit constiapted before my GB went bad). Also, in some people, they don't produce enough bile and so end up having constiaption a lot from that. And a low-fat diet can cause constipation, although it can help you have fewer GB attacks (since fat often precipitates them).

Being a nursing student, you are probably a heavy coke and/or coffee drinker. You must give up both immediately, I'm afraid. Coffee--decaf or regular--is highly acidic and is bad for you if you have acid reflux. Cokes too are highly acidic and hard on your stomach, not to mention the carbonation usually contributes to gas problems. Lastly, caffeine can be a trigger "food" for people with IBS or GB disease. In fact, caffeine was much worse on me than anything fried or greasy, and even now, without a GB, I still cannot tolerate caffeine except in trace amounts in chocolates, or a bit in green tea.

sunshine323
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   Posted 2/27/2007 4:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I actually have no coke or coffee habit - I get plenty of sleep not to need all that. I'm a nervous wreck if I don't - I'm such a grandma, and tend to go to bed at like 9:30 or 10 at night. So yeah ... I also am HIGHLY sensitive to caffeine, regardless of any tummy problems - it just does funky stuff to me. So I've steered clear of that for a while now. (sad though, i love it). I'm also a wimpy coffee drinker (or was) and had to have my drinks girly, and I've discovered that I'm also pretty sensitive to milk, so that's another strike against it. Just way better if I stay away from it entirely.

As for the GB stuff... I don't really have any of those other symptoms, besides the nausea. No right-sided pain (actually, it's usually more on the left, if there's pain at all, and it's normally gas pain), and it isn't worse when I lay down (or not bad enough that i've noticed it at all). My stools aren't funky colors, they're just occasionally ribbon-like or very loose, and sometimes watery. I don't feel like I have reflux, either, but I think that's more possible than anything else.

I had a random thought today about the nausea - I have a lot of sinus drainage (I think I have allergies), and I was wondering if that could possibly cause nausea. I feel like it could...

Also, a lot of times the "nausea" isn't actually nausea, but a weird sensation at the back of my tongue/throat, almost like my gag reflex is being almost-stimulated, but not enough for me to gag, just to feel icky. So weird ... does anyone else have that?

Keriamon
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   Posted 2/28/2007 9:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Actually, it's come up before that people have acid reflux and don't know it, because most people think acid reflux equals heartburn, when nausea is actually just as common a reaction.  So that may very well be your problem, and may be helped out with some OTC acid reducers and sleeping a bit more upright in bed.
 
Sinus drainage down the back of the throat can make you feel sort of gaggy-sick like.  I doubt it's the source for your nausea and occasional lower pain, though.  But it certainly won't hurt anything if you can try some OTC Claritin and see if you can't get your drainage to stop.  If you're like me, you are prone to sinus infections anyways, so stopping the drainage now (before everything starts to bloom) can help keep you from getting a full-blown sinus infection later.  Needing antibiotics to get over one of those just makes your guts even worse. 
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